Poll: Poll: BioWare or Bethesda?

[Phlakes]

Bioware because they can polish a game.

Mako.

Okay, they can polish MOST of a game. And for every mistake they've made, Bethesda has made at least three.

 

[rockyoumonkeys]

Eh...both are great, but Bethesda loses points for having their name attached to the abomination known as Fallout New Vegas. I know they didn't develop it, but they still published it.

Bioware's games are great, but I think I still enjoyed getting lost in the worlds of Oblivion and Fallout 3 enough to even the scales.

Sorry, but what was so bad about F:NV?
I liked the story and the chars and the faction interaction. It was even made by the guys who made 1+2 so no studio fanboyisms.

Well primarily it was the fact that it didn't work. Shame on me for playing the game before this miraculous patch (which I'm still skeptical about.) came out, because the game froze constantly, and I had other problems as well, like not getting any sound 80% of the time I started the game up.

So yeah, maybe that fact took me out of the game when I had to get up every 20 minutes to do a hard-reset of the system, or how I started to FEAR doors because of the potential for infinite load screens. That'll certainly distrupt the flow of the game.

But it just felt SMALLER than Fallout 3. So much time is spent in and around New Vegas, that the whole "apocalyptic wasteland" effect was somewhat dulled and it's just a bunch of somewhat dirty casinos or hotels.

Now granted, I didn't play much of the first two games, so the fact that it's "more like them" is lost on me, but I don't really buy that as a good reason to defend it anyway. A game should be good for its own reasons, not because it's more like something you enjoyed ten or fifteen years ago.

Fallout 3 worked fine for me. First time I played it (on PS3), got one freeze in like 90 hours, just near the end. Played it two more times on the 360 with the DLC, no freezes. No problems. So I guess it's even sadder that a "bunch of fanboys" made a better Fallout game than the original developers? Hmmm.

 

[The Scythian]

I'm going to say neither and go with Obsidian. They make better games in each's respective franchises than the companies can do themselves. They also could have probably fixed the massive disappointment that Mass Effect 2 was too :/

Thank you.

 

[MrJKapowey]

Well primarily it was the fact that it didn't work. Shame on me for playing the game before this miraculous patch (which I'm still skeptical about.) came out, because the game froze constantly, and I had other problems as well, like not getting any sound 80% of the time I started the game up.

So yeah, maybe that fact took me out of the game when I had to get up every 20 minutes to do a hard-reset of the system, or how I started to FEAR doors because of the potential for infinite load screens. That'll certainly distrupt the flow of the game.

But it just felt SMALLER than Fallout 3. So much time is spent in and around New Vegas, that the whole "apocalyptic wasteland" effect was somewhat dulled and it's just a bunch of somewhat dirty casinos or hotels.

Now granted, I didn't play much of the first two games, so the fact that it's "more like them" is lost on me, but I don't really buy that as a good reason to defend it anyway. A game should be good for its own reasons, not because it's more like something you enjoyed ten or fifteen years ago.

Fallout 3 worked fine for me. First time I played it (on PS3), got one freeze in like 90 hours, just near the end. Played it two more times on the 360 with the DLC, no freezes. No problems. So I guess it's even sadder that a "bunch of fanboys" made a better Fallout game than the original developers? Hmmm.

One: Preordered off Amazon, ONE bug, in 70 hours so far. What was that? a body starfished (or whatever the technical term is for limb stretching)

Two: Okay yeah. The time spent around Vegas and the arbitrary height limit stopping you from crossing most small (in height) sheer faces is f*cked up.

Three: 15 years ago, I wasn't alive. I'm 14 and have only playyed Fo:3 and Fo:NV in that series. I mentioned that because of ALL the other dev haters who whine about 'Bethesda ruined my turn based 2d RPG and made it into one of the best (IMO) RPGs I have played. Just a precaution.

 

[Troublesome Lagomorph]

Aww hell. I can't choose. I love both developers. BioWare for it's well written, well though out story lines and Bethesda for their big, open worlds.
I'm a huge Elder Scrolls fan, KOTOR fan, Dragon Age fan, Jade Empire fan and Mass Effect fan.
So... I can't choose.

 

[toothofymir]

As much as I love Oblivion and Fallout 3, I love Mass Effect (1+2), KOTOR (1), and Dragon Age: Origins more.

 

[DuctTapeJedi]

Morrowind was my first real step into gaming, so definitely Bethesda.

 

[toothofymir]

@Durxom

Really? Obsidian's sequels have universally scored less then the original Bioware (or Bethesda in one case) produced product. KOTOR II {Obsidian} scored less than the original KOTOR (Bioware). Neverwinter Nights II (Obsidian) scored less than the original Neverwinter Nights (Bioware). Fallout New Vegas (Obsidain) scored less than its predecessor, Fallout 3 (Behtesda).
The only original IP they ahve is Alpha Protocol, and that didn't get favorable reviews at all.

Don't get me wrong, Obsidian is still a great developer, they're just not at the same level as Bioware or Bethesda.

 

[Talvrae]

Easy one i love more than any other video game company, BIOWARE
the other one i could not care less *cought* Bethesda

 

[Ironman126]

As much as i love Fallout, Mass Effect is just so much better... oh, and far less buggy.

 

[RatRace123]

Bioware, by far.
Though, it's very obvious I'm biased.

 

[Jamous]

I want to say Both.

 

[Skratt]

Bethesda was great, but somewhere along the way they lost the narrative inside a giant sandbox desert of a game. I think there may actually be such a thing as too unfocused, though I'm sure a few would beg to disagree.

BioWare. I've just always felt like the story and writing were much more immersive than Bethseda. I also always thought Bethesda's games lacked a lot of direction, it just sort of set a massive world before you and didn't really tell you where to go.

This is exactly then reason why I vote for Bethesda (in addition to the modding possibilities). I, for one, absolutely love the freedom and lack of direction you guys criticize.
Morrowind will always be one of my favourite games. <3

I do love Oblivion don't get me wrong, I just wish that instead of quest lines broken up by so much other content, that you could settle into an immersible story or two with each of the varying factions - with world altering affects perhaps? Immersion was broken so often, I just starting seeing quests as go here, do X, turn in.

We'll see what happens with TES V, but I won't hold my breath.

 

[FalseMemorySyndrome]

I enjoy playing BioWare games a lot more than Bethesda, but spend a lot more time indulged in a Beth game than I do a Bio.

Bioware games are amazing at drawing you into the character, while Bethesda is more about drawing you into the world and the atmosphere of the game. Pretty much why I play Mass Effect for the story + characters, and Fallout for the enviroment + exploration.

 

[Enverex]

I loved Morrowind and Oblivion (admittedly Oblivion needed some mods to normalise it, specifically levelling enemies...) and I used to think everything Bioware did was magic, but I just lost interest in Dragon Age.

It just felt like I was walking into too many copy-paste enemy battles that felt like they had the frequency and variation of Diablo II mobs while having the difficulty of Baldur's Gate encounters. Just ruined it for me and eventually got tired of playing the game and couldn't complete it. The story pulled me on but it wasn't compelling enough to keep me going the whole way.

 

[Interference]

Much as I love Bethesda, I love Bioware far more. They helped build Baldur's Gate and Planescape: Torment, a dual feat meaning that were their next game to be Barbie's Magical Horse Stable I'd *still* place them above Bethesda.

 

[loc978]

I can't really say I prefer one over the other at this point. BioWare writes a better story, but (in my opinion) Bethesda designs better game mechanics. Both companies make awesome games with compelling narrative structure.

 

[zxcxczczx]

I have never enjoyed a Bethesda game that much and I love every Bioware game.

Bioware > Bethesda.

 

[FalloutJack]

Here's a surprise answer for ya: Atlus Software!

Heh heh heh heh... Sorry, but I don't really have a preference of either of your poll-choices over the other. So, I took a third option.

 

[Grey_Focks]

Vs threads are a no-no, but your new here, so I shall forgive you. Oh, and I love the games both of them make, but I can't not choose BioWare.