Bethesda. BioWares games are pretty bland and boring to me... I barely suffered through beat Dragon Age while I've played (according to xfire) 189 hours of Fallout 3.
Poll: Poll: BioWare or Bethesda?
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Dragon Age do sucks. But it's the Mass Effect that is the ultimate payload of awesome.Assassin Xaero said:
bethesda.josephmatthew10 said:
i'm currently judging them off the latest game of their's i've played, and mass effect 2 isn't high on the 'games i like list' whilst fallout new vegas is.
I actually bought Mass Effect in some Steam sale over a year ago. Tried to play it once, might try again...theriddlen said:
I'm going to have to vote Bethesda on this one, Bioware hasn't really done it for me since Jade Empire (admittedly the only game of theirs I've played since then is Mass Effect...I didn't like it whatsoever so i wasn't motivated to try the sequel or dragon age) and they're my go-to people for games you can really take a bite out of.
I don't see what "to be fair" has to do with anything. I don't agree with you at all. Even had New Vegas actually functioned, I wouldn't have enjoyed it nearly as much as Fallout 3.No_Remainders said:
While Bioware completely and totally wins the award of the two for best narrative I thing Bethesda truly accomplishes the "role-playing game" aspect of RPGs. While games like Mass Effect give you a compelling story and are also fun to play, I think the direction that was taken with games like Oblivion and Fallout 3 gave you a role and said play it. That was it, they truly let you play a character in a world and perhaps that's not what "RPGs" are. Perhaps "RPGs" are about playing a particular role, but that's not how the phrase would be defined if you looked at it away from the acronym. Bethesda's games put you in a world and let you experience it; be it a dangerous or safe experience. Where Bioware's games give you a role to experience in a world you can do little to affect in the scope of things.
I will say that I personally think Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2 were superior games to Fallout 3 and Oblivion but in terms of defining the genre, I think Bethesda made their games better.
I will say that I personally think Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2 were superior games to Fallout 3 and Oblivion but in terms of defining the genre, I think Bethesda made their games better.
Perhaps it's the fact that New Vegas (now that it's patched) works perfectly, when some of the bugs in FO3 still weren't patched when I gave up on it.rockyoumonkeys said:
Or maybe that it's more in the style of the old Fallout games. Y'know, the ones that were actually amusing? The dark humour in it (and the ridiculously over-obvious dinosaur statue which was fucking cool) was really funny.
Fallout 3 on the other hand, went to try and be all dark and sinister and was basically just a big pile of expletives.
After you get through the standard RPG sidequest levelup stage, the story speeds up and doesn't slow down until the ending. It is more than worth giving the game some credit till it sucks you in.Assassin Xaero said:
This is such a hard choice for a diehard RPG fan... You should have asked in a certain regard such as story, gameplay, choice, etc... I personally had to go more with bethesda on the grounds of games which are easier to role play, in the elder scrolls series you can do what you want pretty much how you want it, by comparison the story does suffer, but a good story almost needs more linearity, just look at dragon age, that story can draw you right in and old your attention, but the price is that it is more linear. Well that's my two cents worth.
Skratt said:
This is exactly then reason why I vote for Bethesda (in addition to the modding possibilities). I, for one, absolutely love the freedom and lack of direction you guys criticize.Baron Von Evil Satan said:
Morrowind will always be one of my favourite games. <3
I'm going to be unpopular and vote Bethesda, though it's a close call.
I'm not a fan of Oblivion or Fallout 3, but Morrowind is one of my most fondly remembered games ever, and I'm going to decide this on the criterion of 'single bestest game'.
My respect for BioWare has mostly returned largely due to the Mass Effect series, which are easily some of the best series of recent times. But ultimately, while I vastly prefer the story-driven, choice-based type of game that BioWare do, they just aren't that good at it. The plots are invariably hackneyed, cliche-ridden and thematically the games obstinately refuse to try anything new or adventurous.
Possibly the most interesting BioWare game in terms of setting was Jade Empire, but even so - rather than immerse the player into a foreign culture and mythos, it felt more like an all-too-familiar run-through of mandatory cliches and tropes.
They're good games, but not great, generally lacking in soul - at the level of a good summer blockbuster at best.
On the other hand, Morrowind came up with a wonderful lore, a beautiful, alien world that was trully unlike anything we'd seen before. At the time it was advanced enough for an RPG that it really felt captivating and mysterious. The story-telling isn't as great at BioWare's, like I say I do prefer branched dialogues and conversations, but what it lacked it made up through an extraordinary and detailed world, full of separate, smaller stories to be discovered and mysteries to be explored.
BioWare could easily make a game much better than Morrowind ever was, but they'd need to take a chance for once and try something new - break away from the traditional story mould perhaps, create a less generic world with actual character.
Until then, I'll be waiting for the Witcher 2 =P
I'm not a fan of Oblivion or Fallout 3, but Morrowind is one of my most fondly remembered games ever, and I'm going to decide this on the criterion of 'single bestest game'.
My respect for BioWare has mostly returned largely due to the Mass Effect series, which are easily some of the best series of recent times. But ultimately, while I vastly prefer the story-driven, choice-based type of game that BioWare do, they just aren't that good at it. The plots are invariably hackneyed, cliche-ridden and thematically the games obstinately refuse to try anything new or adventurous.
Possibly the most interesting BioWare game in terms of setting was Jade Empire, but even so - rather than immerse the player into a foreign culture and mythos, it felt more like an all-too-familiar run-through of mandatory cliches and tropes.
They're good games, but not great, generally lacking in soul - at the level of a good summer blockbuster at best.
On the other hand, Morrowind came up with a wonderful lore, a beautiful, alien world that was trully unlike anything we'd seen before. At the time it was advanced enough for an RPG that it really felt captivating and mysterious. The story-telling isn't as great at BioWare's, like I say I do prefer branched dialogues and conversations, but what it lacked it made up through an extraordinary and detailed world, full of separate, smaller stories to be discovered and mysteries to be explored.
BioWare could easily make a game much better than Morrowind ever was, but they'd need to take a chance for once and try something new - break away from the traditional story mould perhaps, create a less generic world with actual character.
Until then, I'll be waiting for the Witcher 2 =P