Poll: Skyrim: The Armour complaint.
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I actually have the opposite feeling. I like to start the game with a vague notion of who my character is, and let the actions I actually take in the game define me from there. It makes me feel more like my character is actually progressing, developing. If I say to myself "I am going to play an axe-wielder who summons imps to help him", and I start playing as an axe-wielder who summons imps to help him, and I end the game as a slightly more powerful axe-wielder who uses imps to help him, then what was the point of playing in the first place?Stall said:
I personally am completely fine with it. I always wear cohesive armour sets rather than min maxing different pieces for stats. I hate the rageddy look you see in mmo's like wow. I guess i just value the whole look more than eeking out every last stat advantage. The face that there are going to be more sets of armour and more variations more than makes up for it for me.
My character is a female Khajiit who wears no clothes apart from her torn bra and a loincloth.
She only uses her bow with poisons and toxins she picks up in the forests and other areas to kill animals for food. She doesn't really care for trivial human interaction and will normally just shoot down anyone she see's out in the wild from the trees.
So uh... since I try to avoid towns and people... and I don't wear armour... I don't really care, no.
She only uses her bow with poisons and toxins she picks up in the forests and other areas to kill animals for food. She doesn't really care for trivial human interaction and will normally just shoot down anyone she see's out in the wild from the trees.
So uh... since I try to avoid towns and people... and I don't wear armour... I don't really care, no.
i cant wait for the game to come out, oh man i lo- wait what i cant have armor appear on the ground and ti has to be fitted for the character! BLASHPEMY...oh wait...i don't care
I find that kind of interesting. Do all RPG's have to be stat based in some way that the player can see or is it possible to use visuals without telling the player: You do x damage out of y hit points. It can be pretty obvious if an item is better simply by value and the way it looks. If I remember correctly Oblivion was fairly simple as far as statistics and didn't go too far in depth into the damage you were doing other than with a health bar that enemies had. Statistical tuning can be important but I don't think it's essential. Engrossing the player in the world with their actions, decisions, and interactions is far more important in my eyes.Stall said:
It'll be modded in, within two days of release. So I'm not worr- oh god, I play PS3.
Still not worried, those modders are clever and determined.
Still not worried, those modders are clever and determined.
Well, there's your problem. /JamieHynemanxXxJessicaxXx said:
Or rather, where you differ from... pretty much everyone who dislikes the change.
There are (quite obviously) a lot players to whom this matters a great deal. When I was actually playing Oblivion, I changed my armor constantly, just for looks. In Fallout 3 I changed it quite often too. Not so much in New Vegas, but mainly because I've finally found a favorite look and story-wise, my character no longer has a lot of her old stuff.
Now I don't think it "ruins" the game--hell I vastly prefer Fallout 3/NV to Oblivion despite the lesser number of slots--but it just seems like a step backward. Rather than combine the two slots into one, they could've just had the armors occupy both slots. Or maybe they couldn't. It's possible to do that with Gamebryo, though, but Skyrim of course isn't going to run on that dated and somewhat crappy engine.
I have mixed feelings, having greaves as a separate piece of armour is just something I've grown accustomed to and I enjoy the customisation it gives me.
Conversely, I didn't start wearing glass armour in Oblivion until I had the entire set, because mis-matched armour looks silly. So this will definitely simplify my obsessive compulsion to look fabulous.
Either way it doesn't really matter. I'm getting the game for PC and using all my sick-days consecutively to play it.
Conversely, I didn't start wearing glass armour in Oblivion until I had the entire set, because mis-matched armour looks silly. So this will definitely simplify my obsessive compulsion to look fabulous.
Either way it doesn't really matter. I'm getting the game for PC and using all my sick-days consecutively to play it.
i'm not complaining because it gets rid of custom-ability, i just prefer the older way is all. it's just like, it gets rid of the coolness y'know?
like in morrowind for example, which was more fulfilling: tracking down all the daedric armor piece by piece throughout your travels and explorations; or killing divath fyr and getting it all at once?
like in morrowind for example, which was more fulfilling: tracking down all the daedric armor piece by piece throughout your travels and explorations; or killing divath fyr and getting it all at once?
i'm getting console.Phlakes said:
I don't see how you can construe his comment to say that Morrowind was or wasn't a RPG. Really though, Morrowind was totally a RPG. Every thing you did, like in most classic RPGs, had its success rate determined by a dice roll modified by your character's stats. Nothing about Oblivion or what we know about Skyrim is going to be like that. It's not a RPG anymore, it's an action hack-'n-slash game with RPG elements.SirBryghtside said:
That's at least what I took away from his comment
I'm sure everything will be fine, but I'm still pretty pissed. I'm acctually suprised, this is the first time I've had a nerd rage about "dumbing down" a RPG.
I don't care about how simple/ hard combat is (unless it's too easy/ hard), I just want to be able to customise my char. Fable III took away virtually ALL of it's clothing options from the previous games. I hope it's not going to be like that.
As long as they have a HUGE variety of armour and clothing styles, then I'll be happy. Hell it's TES. It's a awesome game series. It'll be fine.
EDIT: Also, Here's a fun Idea! How about everyone stop acting like little babies and just get on with it. If your so upset it's "no longer a RPG," then go and play DnD or something. No need to hate and make yourselves look like miserable arses.
I don't care about how simple/ hard combat is (unless it's too easy/ hard), I just want to be able to customise my char. Fable III took away virtually ALL of it's clothing options from the previous games. I hope it's not going to be like that.
As long as they have a HUGE variety of armour and clothing styles, then I'll be happy. Hell it's TES. It's a awesome game series. It'll be fine.
EDIT: Also, Here's a fun Idea! How about everyone stop acting like little babies and just get on with it. If your so upset it's "no longer a RPG," then go and play DnD or something. No need to hate and make yourselves look like miserable arses.
I think it's mostly a choice thing. Besides, I don't want to go around wearing an awesome chestplate that I love the design of if it has shitty looking pants underneath.
Personally tho I'm still holding out hope that the sacrifice will yield more sets of armor, as hinted at in the interview, so hopefully they'll have three or four iron armor pieces, same with all armor types.
I did notice that it only seems to be for armor. If you look at the E3 demo they give you a look at the items in full 3D, including a tunic, elven helmet and gloves.
Personally tho I'm still holding out hope that the sacrifice will yield more sets of armor, as hinted at in the interview, so hopefully they'll have three or four iron armor pieces, same with all armor types.
I did notice that it only seems to be for armor. If you look at the E3 demo they give you a look at the items in full 3D, including a tunic, elven helmet and gloves.