Poll: SPOILERS Dead Space 2 has gone too far.

[Squidwogdog]

SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS

you have been warned.

basically, im playing thorugh Dead Space 2 now, im about 3 hours through, and i'm shooting babies. i've already shot about 60 children no older than 12, but im now walking thorugh a nursery, listening to crying children and shooting mutated babies, which explode.

fuck MW2's airport scene, fuck Medal of Honours Taliban, this strikes me as over the line. had i known in advance there was this sort of content i would probably not have bought it.

Its unnerving you, so I would say that as a horror game its doing a good job. Before you counter me just know that it is following the horror game formula, in this formula, by having the player doing something that makes them uncomfortable or tense, it makes it all the more memorable and horrific. For example the heart breaking ending in Penumbra overture ( if you finished it you know what I mean). The CSI moments in condemned 2, many moments in Heavy Rain etc. I dont think they were trying to be controversial but in a game with that amount of gore and where you can watch yourself get sytematically dismembered without feeling sick or uncomfortable, I dont see how killing mutant/parasite/alien things that happen to have children for hosts is that much of a step up

 

[dementis]

I like that they include the children, in a society there aren't only going to be adults, there's going to be children and babies too and an alien virus isn't gonna have any moral issues with taking over them.

 

[HijiriOni]

I just see it as realistic. If the necromorphs reanimate human bodies and humans have babies and children then it's only inevitable that the necromorphs would also reanimate those at some point.

Just like how I shot Spaniards in Spain in RE4 and Africans in Africa in RE5.

Zombie movies have started adding the children and baby zombies too, it's now really a new thing. It's more like the latest push to make the genre more disturbing and scary.

 

[Slash Dementia]

If an evil necromorph baby is attacking me, there is no pity. I'll aim for the head (but hit the torso) and kill that baby-monster.
Nothing in games disturbs me because they're just games, and if Mortal Kombat taught me anything from my years and years of playing, it's that killing things in really horrific ways is fun.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

But in the original you shot fetuses. Why did you buy the game if you didn't want over the top violence and going too far? I thought the ad campaign and the previous game made that perfectly clear.

 

[SoranMBane]

What babies? All I saw when I played the game were things that USED to be babies and children, but are now mutated into mindless blood-thirsty monsters by an alien pathogen. Anyway, did you really think that a game about mutant zombies could be set in a civilian population and that the children would somehow not be hurt? And how is killing monsters that used to be children worse than the mass murder performed on perfectly healthy adults that characterizes so many other action games?

 

[darkman80723]

I wasnt going to bother playing this game, but with killing babies I might just have to rent it and commit some infantcide

 

[Lucifron]

Nothing is ever too far.

 

[Metazare]

I tried really hard to think of something witty to say about the OP but everything about them just makes my blood boil. The kind of person who actively goes out looking for things that offend them so they can make a scene. I'm glad you're offended, now stop trying to ruin what good games we have left with your overly sensitive self.

 

[Sparrow]

Honestly, if you'd have done any research into Dead Space 1 you would have easily found about 100 videos of people stomping babies. In that sense, I'd say it's entirely your fault for buying the sequel to Baby Stomping 1.

 

[Kris015]

You can NEVER go to far with things like this. NEVER.

 

[OniaPL]

It's a game, why is a death of a baby so shocking? It's not a baby, its a graphic image that the programmers etc. made. And I don't think that people who play this game will build their own plasma cutter to kill babies with. You're seriously overreacting. And actually, I thought it to be funny that you say that you will mow down mercenaries, civilians and other humans, but a baby? Oh no!

Anyways, I thought killing those babies was both amusing and satisfying. Then again, I use public transportation daily.

 

[Mr. Socky]

"cross my heart, hope to die..."

Those who played it will know what I'm talking about (It's practically the endgame), and know that THAT scene is way worse than the exploding babies.

For a game built on purely disturbing imagery, "Stick a needle in your eye" was downright shocking.

 

[Joka-90]

I think shooting something which is clearly a baby is the point being made.
Its one thing to shoot a lurker which are clearly alien because of the 3 tentacles but shooting something which is in baby attire and crying blurs the lines between the necromorph and an actual infant.

Also, it is clear that the response its just a game isn't one which the majority follow other wise MOH and six days in fallujuh wouldn't have caused any controversy.

And laughing at killing babies....... speaks for itself

 

[Cliff_m85]

So you're upset that pixels were rearranged in a different fashion?

You do know that no babies have died from you shooting pixels, right?

No! Bad Escapist!

You can't claim games are art and are a legitimate form for expressing ideas and then fall back to "It's just a game"!

It's always 'just a game' or never 'just a game', they don't get to be deep and meaningful and evocative only when it suits gaming. Over three decades of increasing realism to bring the player closer to the action invalidates the claim of it just 'being pixels', that's not how the developer intended it to be viewed.

Let's bring JD Salinger up on charges for the assassination of John Lennon?

Games can be deep and meaningful. "Catcher in the Rye" is still just a goddamn book. It may be a well-written work of art, but it's still fictional and just a book.

Did Maxwell ever kill anyone with his Silver Hammer? Can you REALLY not touch this? Did Rick actually want to have Jesse's girl?

The developer of the above and the game intended one or two things: People to think and/or people to have fun with it.

 

[Legendairy314]

1. Not really spoilers because the pack and crawlers were both shown in pre-release trailers.
2. The game is rated M for a reason. Disturbing violence is allowed and should be expected.
3. They're necromorphs. The babies are even shown using sympathy to kill someone.

 

[Ignatz_Zwakh]

It ain't developed by Visceral unless there are zombified babies in it...just saying!

 

[MaxP779]

Im so glad to see that most have picked the "no" option or "its just a game" Sorry but the rest of you who picked yes are clearly too sensitive for video games and should go read a book or pick flowers or something.

 

[Joka-90]

It ain't developed by Visceral unless there are zombified babies in it...just saying!

what about the simpsons game.. all the james bonds.... the god fathers.. dont remember zombie babies

 

[The_Fezz]

Uhh, the Demon babies from the last game deserved to die, but these ones have context and a clear origin so while it is a game and it shouldn't be an issue, what suprises me is that EA didn't sell the contreversy like in Medal of Honour.