Poll: Torchlight 2, everything Diablo 3 should have?

[Asti]

Has anyone mentioned that you can have pets in Torchlight? Because you can have pets in Torchlight. *__*

I'll think about getting Diablo 3 once they put in offline singleplayer and the thing doesn't cost 60 fucking Euro anymore. Until then: Torchlight 2. Think about the price-performance-ratio.

 

[teebeeohh]

torchlight is in the easier position, they just have don't have to do all the crap big publishers expect to be in every game with a strong MP component in order the maximize revenue.

and yes i know perfect world is no small indie developer.

 

[Ed130 The Vanguard]

Torchlight 2:

I like Mods
I don't do co-op
It's cheaper

What more can I ask for?

REcaptcha:sterega acid

 

[DanielBrown]

Torchlight 2 doesn't have gender-locked classes, and aside form all the other negatives that Diablo 3 gathered over last days, it makes the "clone" more favourable choice for me. Little things. They do matter in the end when it comes to spending my money.

Diablo III doesn't have gender-locked classes either. You can play as male or female for every class.

 

[dertyqwerty]

I was going to get Torchlight 2 anyways because I enjoyed the first one, and with Blizzard's little news bulletin, D3 transformed from giddy anticipation to "fuck that". T2 is looking pretty promising, and oh boy, do I love mods.

 

[Soods]

Let's look at the games Blizzard has released in last 15 years

Warcraft II: Beyond the dark portal (Great expansion for a great game)
Diablo (Awesome game)
The Lost Vikings II (Haven't played, but I heard it was cool)
Starcraft (STARCRAFT)
Starcraft: Brood War (STARCRAFT)
Diablo II (The bestest RPG ever)
Diablo II: Lord of Destruction (More Diablo)
Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos (Awesome RTS that I still play)
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne (Awesome expansion with lots of new features)
World of Warcraft (Super duper awesome-sauce game)
World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade (Super duper awesome-sauce expansion to super duper awesome-sauce game)
World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King (A great expansion to super duper awesome-sauce game)
Starcraft II: Wings of Liberty (It's like Starcraft, but even better!)
World of Warcraft: Cataclysm (Great expansion again to the super duper awesome-sauce game)

I trust that Diablo 3 will be more than worth my money. Especially if I can get the money back through auction house!

 

[Vhite]

Neither, and if yes then Diablo 3 because even if Blizzard just sayed it wouln't be playable it would still be as epic as any Blizzard game. Feel free to call me a fanboy.

 

[Condiments]

It might be a good game, but I would prefer to play PSO2 when it comes out.

 

[DarkhoIlow]

I will get Diablo 3 because..it's DIABLO III!

Yeah,I know it's a stupid reason,but all the hype around it and all the wait will make it worthwhile.Though the whole debaucle with the auction house/streamlining and every transformation that it will get compared to it's previous title won't stop people from buying and playing it.

If my internet connection drops,I can always play other games,it's not the end of the world.

 

[80Maxwell08]

Cant get over the "babies first video game" Torchlight art style. The first game was also boring as fuck.

Diablo III isnt looking better either, plus the mods and micro transaction fiasco. Blizzard are assholes who will never get a penny from me.

Grim Dawn all the fucking way.

That artstyle is exactly why I stopped playing Fate which had many of the same people working on it. Also have the same reasonings for not getting Diablo III just moderately less extreme. ALso just looked up Grim Dawn and I think I'll keep a good eye on that so thanks for mentioning it.

 

[AngryMongoose]

Defo getting Torchlight 2. Will probably get Diablo 3 but it's hard to say.

 

[tzimize]

With the recent news of Diablo 3, I decided to check out Torchlight 2's site.

This is what I have found:

[HEADING=3]Multiplayer:[/HEADING]

Play with your friends over the internet for free. No subscriptions, no item sales. And, our new matchmaking peer-to-peer service lets you find friends, start and join games for exciting co-op play. Of course, you can play single-player offline as well.

(I also heard myself it has LAN, which I believe Diablo 3 doesn't have)

[HEADING=3]Moddability[/HEADING]

Torchlight II will release with an all new version of TorchEd, the Torchlight editor. Players will have the option to create their own mods, adding even more content to the world. Have your friends download the same mod and play together.

http://www.torchlight2game.com/about

Torchlight 2 considering 1's price point, will also be cheap compared to Diablo 3.

So what do you guys think?

While I would prefer the multiplayer to be handled more or less like TL2...I dont think I really care enough. Torchlight 1, while a decent game...was nothing more than diablo 1 with cartoony graphics. I demand more from my games nowadays...and the diablo universe is just infinitely much better.

I have been annoyed at battle.net before, for several reasons...but I'll simply have take it up the ass because there is no way in hell I have the willpower to boycott D3.

 

[ImprovizoR]

Torchlight 2 seems to be more consumer friendly. Meaning the creators don't care for money as much as they care about the quality of their product. I'm going with Torchlight 2. I will never buy a game with always-on DRM.

 

[MajWound]

I'll take both because I'm rich and spoiled and have lots of free time. I have NEVER been disappointed in a Blizzard game and I'm currently having a blast in Torchlight.

 

[Onyx Oblivion]

I can run TL2, and it looks more appealing to me.

Win-Win for me with TL2.

 

[rembrandtqeinstein]

Blizzard does not get my money for D3 for the same reason they wont get my money for SC2. No offline play= no sale. And I know you can play single player offline in SC2 but you can't play multiplayer lan, screw that.

Also mods greatly extend the life of a game.

 

[NooNameLeft]

Diablo 3 will most likely blow torchlight away in terms of gameplay. You can clearly notice amazing amount of thoughts that have gone into the gameplay itself and how the well designed the art itself is in diablo 3, it's on a whole other level then torchlight 1-2. However I will agree somewhat about the auction house being a bit of a let down but I will just not use it.

I don't think you got the memo. Gameplay in both games consists left and right-clicking, the effects of which change and scale in power as you level up. The difference being that Torchlight 2 has more variation in those effects and the power of them thanks to far more character customization depth.

Diablo 3 will have much more variety in character customization and this is why.

If you bothered to max a character in Torchlight you ended up with a character that use 2-3 maxed active skills and some maxed passive skills (just like in Diablo 2).

Diablo 3 improve this system by removing skill points, and yes removing skill points from the game does improve variety because now your character will always have 6 usefull active skills that have maxed points (in a matter of speaking) plus 3 passive skills.
For example this is how a Sorcerer build in Diablo 2 will look like:
1 point into warmth
1 point into teleport
1 point into frozen armor
Max blizzard
(all the other points are used to improve blizzard)
In this case you have 3 active skills but only 1 of then actully have 20(max) points and that just even more silly.
Torchlight 2 will probably be the same.

This is how a build in Diablo 3 might look like:
Active skills:
1.Blizzard
2.Teleport
3.Mirror Image
4.Storm Armor
5.Disintegrate
6.Familiar
Passive skills:
1.Blur
2.Quickening
3.Expert Defense

And even this one build will not be the same for 2 different people because runes can be applied to any of the active skills and completely change the effect of the skill.

 

[Maniclings]

I really don't understand what all the hate for diablo 3 is about.
Why does everyone have such a problem with the auction house????
People already sell items for diablo 2 on ebay, what are you really so mad blizzard is gonna take the profit from items from their games away from ebay?!?!?
You don't have to buy anything from there, it doesn't make the game more playable if you use it, it doesn't give you any crazy advantages if you buy items, and it's not even the only way to get them.
There are alot of people who will use it and like it, the only effect it will have is people will no longer buy items from 3rd party sources, but through the game.
I don't care about it having only online play, sure this will effect people with no internet connection and that is sad for them, but is blizzard really the only company that only lets you play online??? I mean come one this is not a new feature and blizzard didn't start it. At least you can actually get into their online service without alot of muching around unlike other shitty online only games that make you go through games for windows live, and on the topic of games for windows live I have to say I have never had worse customer service from a game ever.
When I bought dawn of war I was living in uni accomodation so I didnt have alot of control over what ports are open and all of that stuff, I could not use games for windows live. When I contacted THQ they said well we can't do anything its games for windows live, when i contacted games for windows live they literally said "well I have a phd and i can connect from home with no problems so you are just stupid".
If I have a problem getting a patch from blizzard or logging in they have excellent customer service and trouble shooting and actually help me out. And I can get into their online service no problems, EVEN if i am at uni.

I also don't understand all this "OMG BLIZZARD JUST WANT TO MAKE MONEYSSS!!!!!, WAAAA I CANT BELIEVE IT" what the hell, they are a company they make games, not just to make fun games but also to turn a profit, god forbid a buisness wants to make a profit far out call the police they are making money making things for our entertainment. Are they releasing unfinished badly made games and charging full price for them like bioware did? cause I think that is much worse than only allowing online play.. like much much worse.
There are a HUGE amount of costs that go into running a company that you probably don't even think about, and yes piracy does hurt the industry, and I personally think its ok for them to do things to counter it, why should they spend years and millions of dollars making a game so some wanker can download it and play it without giving anything back.

 

[busters]

Easy answer; both. Both series are pretty good, and the sequels are turning out to be good games as well. Why pick one over the other? Sure they're similar games, but that doesn't mean you can only play one of them. Play both of them, and have fun with both of them. There's no need to be stubborn fanboys.

 

[evilneko]

I don't think I like the aesthetics of either game to be honest. Diablo 3 looks darker, which is closer to what I think Diablo should be, but they both end up looking cartoony like D2, which I definitely do not like.

D3 also has that online only thhing.

So in the end probably neither.