Poll: Tracer pose poll

[Pirate Of PC Master race]

My selection has nothing to do with my political leaning towards pro or anti censorship.

I am pro-ass.

 

[Kae]

I don't much care about it, but let's be fair about this the real reason they removed it is because it's a place-holder pose that several characters have and they were already planning to replace it at some point down the line, people forget that it's a beta and it makes sense that stuff like that would be subject to change until much later than in-game animations or balance.

I mean it's not like Blizz is against sexualizing the character otherwise she wouldn't have that skin-tight suit and Widowmaker still exists, so it's a non-issue, it's a typical change for a beta and nothing more.

Then all they had to do was say so.

You know, instead of making a big deal about her fantastic fanny.

Maybe I'm missing something because I haven't paid much attention mostly because the whole outrage is about removing a pose and it's call buttgate, which is kind off massively stupid, but from what I've seen Blizzard's response was simply the employee that is in charge of that saying, "Yes person that is complaining about the pose, I understand what you are saying and I agree, in fact we were planning on removing it regardless since the animation we actually wanted is almost finished", then some people got a bit more passionate and they apologized for having offended people because they are a corporation and that's what corporations do when they don't want to seem like dicks and then suddenly everybody was really pissed over it.

To be honest I'm not sure I understand which part of the issue was misshandled by Blizzard, to me it just seems like the audience is being stupid, but like I said I don't give a shit of whether they remove a pose or not, it's ridiculous to me that people are complaining about a victory pose, literally the most irrelevant part of any competitive game, I never even look at them past the first time, besides why would I look at it when looking up your stats at the end of the match is much more interesting.

Seriously though why do people care about a victory pose? This is ridiculous.

 

[PurplePonyArcade]

Anti-removal here. I am sick of over sensitivity and making a big deal out of nothing.

 

[Fox12]

I neither support nor don't support it. I don't support the way they handled it, however. All in all, it probably would have been better if they hadn't removed it. Or at most unwedgied her suit.

I don't care about the pose itself, but I can't help but feel like this was all a stunt, kind of like with Hatred or Dead or Alive. Start a controversy, and then watch people snap up your game or swimsuit DLC. It's a good excuse to drum up extra good will from the recent outrage culture. Everything just feels... off to me.

 

[Something Amyss]

Anti-removal here. I am sick of over sensitivity and making a big deal out of nothing.

Those two lines seem rather contradictory.

A big deal was not made until they said they were going to remove it. This should have been nothing.

 

[The Enquirer]

Given the new pose I wish I could have changed my answer as it's actually really quite good. Unless they were doing it for publicity I still don't see a reason to remove the original though as it's simply one less thing in game.

 

[Kameburger]

Never before has something that mattered so little received so much attention. In fact the only reason this is an issue is because now thanks to the internet, a games development details no matter how small get plastered all over the internet as if they're huge news. If blizzard had not commented and just replaced it with that pose, no one would have said anything I'd be willing to bet. It's not as though it was a particularly stand out pose.

The censorship debate is stupid. But I do see why people are nervous. In general progressives can't enter a single stroke on a keyboard without dehumanizing someone that disagrees with them and the internet is the internet so anyone who disagrees with them and subsequently feels dehumanized will retaliate with guns blazing.

 

[Weaver]

I don't care the pose was removed, and I think the new pose is better.

What I think they bungled was their entire handling of the situation. If they just changed the old pose to the new one without responding to that user in the forums and making it look like they were doing it just to appease one person this never would have made the headlines.

 

[Michel Henzel]

I approve of the removal, simply due to the fact that the new one looks more eroticly then the previous one. So it's a win in my book.

 

[Yuuki]

Can we please have a 5th poll option:

> Blizzard's response to the original complaint was fucking retarded

Because that's what sparked the shitstorm to begin with. The controversy had almost NOTHING to do with Tracer's actual pose, so I don't know why people are still harping on about it. It was everything to do with Jeff's response.

 

[Nazulu]

I just heard about this recently, and from what I can gather, Blizzard didn't care for it either, so there is nothing that really matters here.

If I ever see a developer say they're getting harassed enough to break down and conform, then I will have a problem with it.

 

[RedDeadFred]

I don't care about the pose. Where's the option for "this whole thing is causing me to lose my faith in humanity"?

There's the biggest global corruption scandal ever going on right now and gamers are losing their minds over butts. Fucking butts. I know I know, gaming site and such. I just feel that the amount people are getting worked up over such a meaningless thing is a tad depressing. The fact that this topic has been dominating the popular forum posts section for this long is ridiculous.

 

[Rastrelly]

I just heard about this recently, and from what I can gather, Blizzard didn't care for it either, so there is nothing that really matters here

Blizzard directly lied in their statement on the subject. They said they agree with pose criticism, then they make a pose which is A PIN-UP POSE, i.e., borderlines erotical, and SUDDENLY no backlash from original critics? Weee-hooo, that was a clunky PR over there.

I don't care about the pose. Where's the option for "this whole thing is causing me to lose my faith in humanity"?

It's fourth one.

There's the biggest global corruption scandal ever going on right now and gamers are losing their minds over butts. Fucking butts. I know I know, gaming site and such. I just feel that the amount people are getting worked up over such a meaningless thing is a tad depressing. The fact that this topic has been dominating the popular forum posts section for this long is ridiculous.

Pffff, how naive one has to be to even... I don't know, this offshore scandal is just funny. "Oooh my gaaawd, politicians are corrupted in our world ruled by business interests and financial lobbies, what a surpriiiise!"

 

[Nazulu]

I just heard about this recently, and from what I can gather, Blizzard didn't care for it either, so there is nothing that really matters here

Blizzard directly lied in their statement on the subject. They said they agree with pose criticism, then they make a pose which is A PIN-UP POSE, i.e., borderlines erotical, and SUDDENLY no backlash from original critics? Weee-hooo, that was a clunky PR over there.

Yeah, but they wrote a reply later though with how they feel. I'm not going to make assumptions on what their real intentions are.

 

[RedDeadFred]

There's the biggest global corruption scandal ever going on right now and gamers are losing their minds over butts. Fucking butts. I know I know, gaming site and such. I just feel that the amount people are getting worked up over such a meaningless thing is a tad depressing. The fact that this topic has been dominating the popular forum posts section for this long is ridiculous.

Pffff, how naive one has to be to even... I don't know, this offshore scandal is just funny. "Oooh my gaaawd, politicians are corrupted in our world ruled by business interests and financial lobbies, what a surpriiiise!"

Eh, the fourth one doesn't quite fit though. It's too much outrage and too little disappointment.

Anyway... of course it's not a surprise. However, the information leak and potential fallout from it is unprecedented. However, that's beside the point. It's just an example. The point is that it's a little bit sad that a "controversy" about a fucking butt has been ruling the top threads for a solid 2 weeks. But sure, laugh it all off. I won't intrude any longer. I leave you to continue your debates on fictional butts. Enjoy, sir.

 

[Candidus]

Where is the option for: "I support the removal of the old pose when it is for the purpose of replacing it with a sexier pose"?

Because that's where I am.

 

[Rastrelly]

There's the biggest global corruption scandal ever going on right now and gamers are losing their minds over butts. Fucking butts. I know I know, gaming site and such. I just feel that the amount people are getting worked up over such a meaningless thing is a tad depressing. The fact that this topic has been dominating the popular forum posts section for this long is ridiculous.

Pffff, how naive one has to be to even... I don't know, this offshore scandal is just funny. "Oooh my gaaawd, politicians are corrupted in our world ruled by business interests and financial lobbies, what a surpriiiise!"

I leave you to continue your debates on fictional butts. Enjoy, sir.

I already do so, sir, but thanks anyway

However, the information leak and potential fallout from it is unprecedented.

Nah, they'll just sacrifice several most egregious examples and everything will end there. In worst case scenario they'll find a way to detract attention to something else. Usually politicians of both opposition and governing forces sit in the same corrupted boat and cover each other's arses on these matters.

 

[RedDeadFred]

Nah, they'll just sacrifice several most egregious examples and everything will end there. In worst case scenario they'll find a way to detract attention to something else. Usually politicians of both opposition and governing forces sit in the same corrupted boat and cover each other's arses on these matters.

You could very well be right. I just think it's a step in the right direction. Now it's at least out there instead of just being a suspicion. Granted, it's quite possible that the investigation was funded by the very competitors of the tax haven. It's a long way to go, but I think this has caused a lot more awareness than a lot of other things (just look at how Iceland reacted). Anyway, it's quite possible that I'm being over optimistic and I absolutely concede that everything you said is not only possible, but likely.

Won't derail any further though. Happy commenting!

 

[JaKandDaxter]

I'm not familiar with Trace's character and if such a pose would conflict with her personality.

But honestly, its a damn game. We've seen more mature content in games and other forms of media including books. We have a website on the internet called PornHub. Which while I never been there, I'm pretty certain a number of Blizzard fans have gone to. Or viewed adult pornography elsewhere. Some people need to get a hold of themselves if this is controversial in their minds. Aint like she's pole dancing for kids. Or truly having an effect on people's sex/love life.

 

[Dolly]

There is no conflict between her personality and the pose. She is funny and swett, so does the pose. But, new one is definitely better and funnier then the old one.
Generally, I don't understand why you should pay attention on such a thing as somebody's ass in a winning pose???