Poll: Ultimate Sacrifice

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DanielBrown

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No more war, famine or crimes?
No, I wouldn't do it. We need those things to keep the population under control. It's already getting out of hand!
 

Shoqiyqa

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DanielBrown said:
No more war, famine or crimes?
No, I wouldn't do it. We need those things to keep the population under control. It's already getting out of hand!
That was kind of my point at the top of the page. "A wizard did it," eh? Did he sterilise or delibidinise much of the population, then?

If it wasn't for the "overnight" thing there'd be questions about timescale, too. A thousand years from now, nobody's going to remember me anyway ... and if it was going to take that long, there'd be a lot of ways to end famine and war without just casting Mass Dispel Humanoid.
 

Nathan Crumpler

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DanielBrown said:
No more war, famine or crimes?
No, I wouldn't do it. We need those things to keep the population under control. It's already getting out of hand!
I think what the thread creator is getting at is all problems will be solved. The idea of overpopulation wouldn't exist because there would be enough space, food, shelter, etc... for every one.
 

krazykidd

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Loonyyy said:
If you don't exist, it doesn't do you any good. It's oblivion, and that seems like the worst place to condemn yourself for people who will never know of your sacrifice, especially if you never capitalise on it.
Then sacrificing yourself for recongnition from others is ideal. Hate to break it to you but, once you die you will eventually be forgotten , unless you do something incredibly bad ( hitler ) or incredibly good ( mother theresa ) . Either way once your dead you won't know because , well , your dead .

OT : i'd would not do it . I don't know if anyone played SMT : Nocturn or strange journey , but basically complete order is a life of slavery , where as complet chaos is freedom ( where the strong survives and the weak dies ). But complet order ( which is what OP is talking about i think ) basically makes humans souless . You cannot know joy without pain nor live life without the existance of death . Taking away freedom of choice is not what life is about . With freedom of choice , pain and suffering will inevitably exist , unless everyone makes a " conscient " effort to be and do ( which is basically the base of most religions and why heaven is suppose to be the gate for only the good to ensure evil never returns, because we made the conscient decision to be good and thus not a life of slavery due to choice ). Sorry i got away from the topic for a minute . So no i wouldn't do it , ill leave freedom of choice.
 

DEATHROAD

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Shoqiyqa said:
DanielBrown said:
No more war, famine or crimes?
No, I wouldn't do it. We need those things to keep the population under control. It's already getting out of hand!
That was kind of my point at the top of the page. "A wizard did it," eh? Did he sterilise or delibidinise much of the population, then?

If it wasn't for the "overnight" thing there'd be questions about timescale, too. A thousand years from now, nobody's going to remember me anyway ... and if it was going to take that long, there'd be a lot of ways to end famine and war without just casting Mass Dispel Humanoid.
Nathan Crumpler said:
DanielBrown said:
No more war, famine or crimes?
No, I wouldn't do it. We need those things to keep the population under control. It's already getting out of hand!
I think what the thread creator is getting at is all problems will be solved. The idea of overpopulation wouldn't exist because there would be enough space, food, shelter, etc... for every one.
Top quote read bottom quote, it pretty much sumarises what im getting at.

I really wish people would stop picking apart my question for loopholes and breaks in logic and just answer it, if you cant answer it then good, its meant to be a hard question that has you thinking, but logic really stops applying early on in the question, yes, "A wizard did it" isn't a great reason, but the reason isn't important at all, its a hypothetical question. I gave you the terms and your supposed to decide what you would do were they possible.
 

Rainforce

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DEATHROAD said:
Every single problem in the world today (War, Famine etc) will be solved over night, no one will ever be unhappy again
have you ever been to hell?
sounds like it : O

no, I will not sacrifice myself for the nightmare the world would become. (and what the rest of us would make of it)
and for the american mind: it would also take away our freedom, etc..
 

VoidWanderer

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To me this is a no-brainer. 'Make world better place and watch it happen' or shrug and walk away. No real sacrifice. But if you had phrased this question like this.

'Do you sacrifice yourself in a grand gesture that makes the world realize that all this in-fighting over the many varied reasons is worthless or do you take an opportunity to set yourself up for life where you will never have to need or want anything again?'

That would be an excellent conundrum more than yours IMO. I would do the whole sacrifice thing for your question but mine...?
 

Jnat

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I think I would do it, I haven't really achieved anything anyway.
 

DEATHROAD

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VoidWanderer said:
To me this is a no-brainer. 'Make world better place and watch it happen' or shrug and walk away. No real sacrifice. But if you had phrased this question like this.

'Do you sacrifice yourself in a grand gesture that makes the world realize that all this in-fighting over the many varied reasons is worthless or do you take an opportunity to set yourself up for life where you will never have to need or want anything again?'

That would be an excellent conundrum more than yours IMO. I would do the whole sacrifice thing for your question but mine...?
It all depends on outlook, as I said in my original post I really dont want to die, and being erased is worse then death to me, so its a hard choice, for me atleast, your question IS really good though, Still dont think id want to die, for anything.
 

ThreeWords

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No, I would not. Suffering makes people strong, and not just in terms of physical power.

Without evil there is no such thing as a good man.
 

Wintermoot

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no, the world has to fix it,s own problems and I would hate to see my sacrifice getting inevitably undone by a few asshats.
 

duchaked

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can't say I'd expect people to remember me all that much after I'm gone, so I might be down with it...maybe.
 
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To think of the suffering that people would continue to endure because I'm too selfish to sacrifice my life would torment me forever anyway - what kind of life would that be?
 

veloper

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This would be one of those trick wishes yes, where in this case the caveat is that all the worlds problems are fixed by removing the cause=humanity.

Would it really matter if humans all disappeared in a literal sense or in a more figurative sense, where people are happy little drones who can suffer no consequences of their actions?

I'd make the ultimate sacrifice for much less though, especially if I wouldn't have to stick around as a ghost.
 

vivster

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hard choice
i hate most people on earth so i would certainly not want to make it better for them
on the other hand being a ghost sounds cool...
 
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ThreeWords said:
No, I would not. Suffering makes people strong, and not just in terms of physical power.

Without evil there is no such thing as a good man.
As eloquent as that sounds, try telling that to children suffering from malnutrition, widows and mothers who have to grieve over husbands and sons lost in pointless wars, people who lose relatives to diseases and incurable illnesses. There's so much shit in this world, and if we don't work towards ending it then what exactly is our purpose?