Poll: Violence is never the answer

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Aby_Z said:
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Aby_Z said:
Violence is always an answer. Nothing more, nothing less.
Quote for truth, man/woman/other, but I will submit to you one contradiction. Violence is the answer when you've tried everything else.
You can never try every single possible option as there are an unlimited number of options for every problem. Even maths.
Yeah, but I mean reasonable options. Like, if someone asks you to turn it to Channel 8, you don't buy a walrus and use him as kindle for your fireplace.
 

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SpaceSpork said:
Aby_Z said:
SpaceSpork said:
Aby_Z said:
Violence is always an answer. Nothing more, nothing less.
Quote for truth, man/woman/other, but I will submit to you one contradiction. Violence is the answer when you've tried everything else.
You can never try every single possible option as there are an unlimited number of options for every problem. Even maths.
Yeah, but I mean reasonable options. Like, if someone asks you to turn it to Channel 8, you don't buy a walrus and use him as kindle for your fireplace.
No, you buy a walrus and place the remote in front of Sally,[footnote]That is the walrus's name.[/footnote] then blow a horn until, in her panic, Sally hits the "8" button, changing the channel to Channel 8.

Or you punch the guy in the face. Many different ways of going about it.
 

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What are you gonna do when the robots take over? Talk to them? They can tell when you are lying! And that is humanity's only defense. That and bouts of unreasonable violence. And thumbs. But robots have thumbs. So we MUST rely on our violent side to survive the rise of the Brotherhood of Machines.
 

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Aby_Z said:
SpaceSpork said:
Aby_Z said:
SpaceSpork said:
Aby_Z said:
Violence is always an answer. Nothing more, nothing less.
Quote for truth, man/woman/other, but I will submit to you one contradiction. Violence is the answer when you've tried everything else.
You can never try every single possible option as there are an unlimited number of options for every problem. Even maths.
Yeah, but I mean reasonable options. Like, if someone asks you to turn it to Channel 8, you don't buy a walrus and use him as kindle for your fireplace.
No, you buy a walrus and place the remote in front of Sally,[footnote]That is the walrus's name.[/footnote] then blow a horn until, in her panic, Sally hits the "8" button, changing the channel to Channel 8.

Or you punch the guy in the face. Many different ways of going about it.
But you get my point, no?[footnote]The walruses name is actually Harry.[/footnote]
 

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MrDeckard said:
The only absolute is that there are [i/]no[/i] absolutes.
Quoted, as they say, for truth.

Without any context, the question is meaningless.

Generally, I'd say that violence isn't the answer. It can be part of the answer, but violence in of itself only really works if you can use truly excessive amounts of it.

As a short term solution to an isolated problem, it can work, but as a long term solution to the causes of problems, it tends not to, unless you are willing to go to terrible lenghts.
 

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There is NO problem on earth (except non-infection diseases) that cannot be solved by violence. Some problems just require more force than others. Think Machiavelli; even when it's super un-ethical, it'll at least get the job done.
 

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Violence is alway an answer, but situationwise, it's not always a nessecary answer. Violence should be avoided if possible, but sometimes, it needs to happen. Unfortunately, violence is often used as an answer when it is least appropriate. It's human nature, we love to be violent, even if we don't admit it. It's not wrong, it's just who we are.
Take the movie Robocop and me for an example: I don't care for it because of plot or good acting, I enjoy it because it's ridiculous amounts of violence. It has a cop in a robot suit ripping the spine with the brain attatched out of a giant robot with a chaingun (not a minigun: A CHAINGUN) in the middle of an inferno with explosions everywhere, accompanied with awesome music (although Guile's theme from Street Fighter fits it better)
It has criminals being thrown through glass windows continually and driving into completely random giant containers of toxic waste, who then get run over and literally explode all over the front of the car.
That would be awful to see in real life, but we, as humans, find it entertaining, and there's nothing wrong with that.
Also, someone mentioned Unthinkable a bit back, that's a good example of this argument. Not a bad movie, either.
 

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Violence is the question, and the answer is yes.
But in all seriousness, violence is sometimes the answer and should be a last resort in a (supposedly) intelligent society.
 

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SpaceSpork said:
Aby_Z said:
SpaceSpork said:
Aby_Z said:
SpaceSpork said:
Aby_Z said:
Violence is always an answer. Nothing more, nothing less.
Quote for truth, man/woman/other, but I will submit to you one contradiction. Violence is the answer when you've tried everything else.
You can never try every single possible option as there are an unlimited number of options for every problem. Even maths.
Yeah, but I mean reasonable options. Like, if someone asks you to turn it to Channel 8, you don't buy a walrus and use him as kindle for your fireplace.
No, you buy a walrus and place the remote in front of Sally,[footnote]That is the walrus's name.[/footnote] then blow a horn until, in her panic, Sally hits the "8" button, changing the channel to Channel 8.

Or you punch the guy in the face. Many different ways of going about it.
But you get my point, no?[footnote]The walruses name is actually Harry.[/footnote]
I get your point, but it is null.[footnote]No, it's Sally.[/footnote]
 

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Aby_Z said:
SpaceSpork said:
Aby_Z said:
SpaceSpork said:
Aby_Z said:
SpaceSpork said:
Aby_Z said:
Violence is always an answer. Nothing more, nothing less.
Quote for truth, man/woman/other, but I will submit to you one contradiction. Violence is the answer when you've tried everything else.
You can never try every single possible option as there are an unlimited number of options for every problem. Even maths.
Yeah, but I mean reasonable options. Like, if someone asks you to turn it to Channel 8, you don't buy a walrus and use him as kindle for your fireplace.
No, you buy a walrus and place the remote in front of Sally,[footnote]That is the walrus's name.[/footnote] then blow a horn until, in her panic, Sally hits the "8" button, changing the channel to Channel 8.

Or you punch the guy in the face. Many different ways of going about it.
But you get my point, no?[footnote]The walruses name is actually Harry.[/footnote]
I get your point, but it is null.[footnote]No, it's Sally.[/footnote]
What I'm trying to talk about is that when you are starting a revolution to overthrow an oppressive government that will not give you any free speech at all, violence is the only logical option left.
 

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SpaceSpork said:
Aby_Z said:
SpaceSpork said:
Aby_Z said:
SpaceSpork said:
Aby_Z said:
SpaceSpork said:
Aby_Z said:
Violence is always an answer. Nothing more, nothing less.
Quote for truth, man/woman/other, but I will submit to you one contradiction. Violence is the answer when you've tried everything else.
You can never try every single possible option as there are an unlimited number of options for every problem. Even maths.
Yeah, but I mean reasonable options. Like, if someone asks you to turn it to Channel 8, you don't buy a walrus and use him as kindle for your fireplace.
No, you buy a walrus and place the remote in front of Sally,[footnote]That is the walrus's name.[/footnote] then blow a horn until, in her panic, Sally hits the "8" button, changing the channel to Channel 8.

Or you punch the guy in the face. Many different ways of going about it.
But you get my point, no?[footnote]The walruses name is actually Harry.[/footnote]
I get your point, but it is null.[footnote]No, it's Sally.[/footnote]
What I'm trying to talk about is that when you are starting a revolution to overthrow an oppressive government that will not give you any free speech at all, violence is the only logical option left.
Or you could have a fantastic chat about LOVE AND FRIENDSHIP with the evil dictator and magically change everything.
 

SpaceSpork

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Aby_Z said:
SpaceSpork said:
Aby_Z said:
SpaceSpork said:
Aby_Z said:
SpaceSpork said:
Aby_Z said:
SpaceSpork said:
Aby_Z said:
Violence is always an answer. Nothing more, nothing less.
Quote for truth, man/woman/other, but I will submit to you one contradiction. Violence is the answer when you've tried everything else.
You can never try every single possible option as there are an unlimited number of options for every problem. Even maths.
Yeah, but I mean reasonable options. Like, if someone asks you to turn it to Channel 8, you don't buy a walrus and use him as kindle for your fireplace.
No, you buy a walrus and place the remote in front of Sally,[footnote]That is the walrus's name.[/footnote] then blow a horn until, in her panic, Sally hits the "8" button, changing the channel to Channel 8.

Or you punch the guy in the face. Many different ways of going about it.
But you get my point, no?[footnote]The walruses name is actually Harry.[/footnote]
I get your point, but it is null.[footnote]No, it's Sally.[/footnote]
What I'm trying to talk about is that when you are starting a revolution to overthrow an oppressive government that will not give you any free speech at all, violence is the only logical option left.
Or you could have a fantastic chat about LOVE AND FRIENDSHIP with the evil dictator and magically change everything.
Or you could punch them.

WITH LOVE!

AIEEE I'VE BEEN DEFEATED BY THE POWER OF LOOOVE!
 

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Violence is nessisary sometimes. if someone attacks you, you have no choice but to fight back. Diplomacy is nice and all but no one wants to end up like Tibet (taken over by a bigger, much douchier nation).
 

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SpaceSpork said:
Aby_Z said:
SpaceSpork said:
Aby_Z said:
SpaceSpork said:
Aby_Z said:
SpaceSpork said:
Aby_Z said:
SpaceSpork said:
Aby_Z said:
Violence is always an answer. Nothing more, nothing less.
Quote for truth, man/woman/other, but I will submit to you one contradiction. Violence is the answer when you've tried everything else.
You can never try every single possible option as there are an unlimited number of options for every problem. Even maths.
Yeah, but I mean reasonable options. Like, if someone asks you to turn it to Channel 8, you don't buy a walrus and use him as kindle for your fireplace.
No, you buy a walrus and place the remote in front of Sally,[footnote]That is the walrus's name.[/footnote] then blow a horn until, in her panic, Sally hits the "8" button, changing the channel to Channel 8.

Or you punch the guy in the face. Many different ways of going about it.
But you get my point, no?[footnote]The walruses name is actually Harry.[/footnote]
I get your point, but it is null.[footnote]No, it's Sally.[/footnote]
What I'm trying to talk about is that when you are starting a revolution to overthrow an oppressive government that will not give you any free speech at all, violence is the only logical option left.
Or you could have a fantastic chat about LOVE AND FRIENDSHIP with the evil dictator and magically change everything.
Or you could punch them.

WITH LOVE!

AIEEE I'VE BEEN DEFEATED BY THE POWER OF LOOOVE!
Don't forget friendship.

All multiple answers to the same problem~
 

The Big Eye

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Violence is never the *right* thing. It's just sometimes not the *wrong* thing. Killing someone who killed your friend doesn't make you a good person, but at least it means he won't be killing anyone else.
 

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believer258 said:
Does fighting fire with fire always spread the flames?

No, it doesn't - firefighters have sometimes used a last-resort tactic of burning the area around the fire so that when it gets there, everything that can be burned is already burned.

In the same way, sometimes violence can be used as a last resort. I'd love to say "never", but considering that fact that 99% of humanity are total dicks, I can't be that naive.
Yup... thinking about it, I try to remain calm (despite being a homicidal purger inside) but when the dude behind me kept poking the 2ed degree burn on my neck and didn't seem to understand the phrase "stop it that hurts" then proceeded to back hand it to make the blisters pop

I think him ending up on the ground with my foot on his neck applying pressure while I yell the lesson into his thick skull was the answer (with everyone watching of course... as blood was coming out of the back of my neck so they knew something was wrong)

(...then again twilight had just came out so they probably though sparkly-fairy vampire)

L3m0n_L1m3 said:
So if I was on wheel of fortune, and the letters "V i o _ e n c e" were on the board, violence wouldn't be the answer?
crap I can't think of a witty one-liner for that one... or pun... or joke...

Very cleaver, well done
(wait did I just say cleaver as in a knife?)
 

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JinxyKatte said:
L3m0n_L1m3 said:
So if I was on wheel of fortune, and the letters "V i o _ e n c e" were on the board, violence wouldn't be the answer?
I like the way you think.

OT hell yes sometimes violence is the answer. Sometimes there is a justifiable reason for hitting people. Like say if a man hit my girlfriend (im assuming I have one for the sake of argument) I would be well within my rights to hit them, repeatedly. For an hour. With a bat.
yelling "Boink" and "Bonk" then taking their sandvich

Note: what kind of captcha is "91-92 lystrabl"