Poll: was i out of line?

jpoon

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You did the right thing, fuck the little bastards. If parents are too spineless to punish their kids then I'm glad you at least did.
 

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I think somebody has been reading too many issues of the beano and that this whole story is made up.
 

tofulove

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stonethered said:
tofulove said:
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tofulove said:
there alot of things i like about the eu, but the no spanking your child mentality alot of them have is bs. you should of bin able to smack that kids ass for that. after words the mom should of bin like well if a kid broke my window and broke my fence, id smack his ass to.

i don't believe in beating a kid, and i think time out and grounding (with out spanking) should happen in most cases. but when a kid has the nerve to break you window, than break you fence to hide the fact he broke your window, his ass needs a smack plus some grounding.
You really misinterpreted what happened.

The kid was playing a game, the ball hit the window, the window broke, he climbed over the fence to get the ball which also broke. He wasn't breaking the window or fence on purpose and it's sheer hypocrisy for you to want uber punishment for this kid when you did the same shit as a kid yourself.

Capcha is "jump the gun", and you sure jumped the gun.
sounded like he was trying to get the ball and avoid taking responsibility for the window while in the process breaking the fence. every other time the kids went to the door. this time they tried to sneak in and cause more damage. if the kid had some honesty marched his but to the door and apologized, than in my mind did not deserve any serious punishment at all. a little time out and a stern reminder to be careful. but he tried to hide his crime by sneaking in. and for that i stand by my principles, spare the rod spoil the child.

p.s. when i was a kid i did not break peoples shit, and when i did i took responsibility for it. i was rarely spanked cause i had the common sense not to be a tool. the few times my ass got a wooping i deserved it. maybe if kids had a little more incentive to not act like tools, we have less tools in the world.
Good lord, it's like listening to myself four years ago. Failure to capitalize 'I's', passionate, retroactive justification, and you dislike societal trends too.

If you had been white knighting someone I'd be a bit scared right now.
im glad your so much better than me<3 your large ego has show me the errors of my ways, when im 4 years older i hope i learn how to let other people know im in fact better than them and they to can become like me. and this is relevant to the discussion how?
It wasn't, I edited.
should of edited faster, or not post that dribble at all, maybe in 4 years you can learn that.
 

Jamieson 90

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You were fine until you twisted their ears and caused them discomfort if not pain which you yourself admited to. That wasn't necessary at all, a firm hand on a shoulder or arm would have surficed. You have no right to do that since it's not your kid, if it was my hypothetical child then I'd be pissed at you too, can't believe a significant majority find this is okay either. (72% voted no as of this post)
 

Rule Britannia

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The mother was overreacting. If possible you should have found another way to escort the kids off your property.

From her point of view it's her child and she doesn't want anybody touching her child. protection things and all, we're not the only animals that do it.

It's good that the husband was understanding though.
 

Yosato

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Delsana said:
Yosato said:
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I don't think you were, not even for the ear twisting (which frankly sounds totally situationally appropriate, and is exactly how it would have happened if it had been a movie). Kids should have known better than to trespass, assuming they knew it was someone's property. Lady shouldn't have yelled at you for it, but her reaction is quite understandable. She was angry, and probably a bit scared about what you were doing; odds are nobody has ever actually laid hands on her kids before (and I'd say that after trespassing and vandalizing your private property, somebody probably ought to).

Could you have handled it better? Yeah, you could have just tracked down their parents and courteously requested compensation. But at the same time, your actions will have a rather more lasting impact on all of them. And you didn't try to kill anyone, or cause permanent harm. Nobody was threatened. And everything was paid for. As long as there's no legal problems, I'd say you did fine.
Legally, it was child abuse.

There's a very big legal problem here.

Again, I sense hypocrisy for everyone forgetting what happened when they were young kid...
Depends on the region.
And by legal problems, I mean depending on whether anyone wanted to press charges. Generally, the police don't fuss with things unless people take issue with them.

And what exactly is it that we're all forgetting here?
You guys all broke things when you were really young, or your parents did, and you didn't want to take responsibility and you fled... and now look at you all taking issue with it and acting as if it's the worst thing ever and punishment ever made you stop.. bahaha such hypocrisy.
Uhh, not really. Now you're just making false assumptions. I agree that trespassing on someone's garden to get a football is something kids do - there's no harm done in it really, but if I know that if I broke someone's window I'd still tell them, even as a child.
You can't say now what you'd in the past, because you have a different mentality. Nice try but not slip-stream logic for you.

The funniest thing about these posts is that they think it will resonate with the kids because they felt some pain or felt bad? Hah. They will either resent the guy, or they will make fun of him.. might even just ignore it. Thinking one bad situation is going to imprint them is just ignorant.
Sure I can, I remember it. I know for a fact what I'd do at that age - I was actually disciplined. Then again it might differ from person to person; I lived in a pretty rough area, and my dad likes nothing better than ranting off life lessons.
 

Mr. GameBrain

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No you are not out of line.

Sometimes children are idiots and don't listen to reason.

Heh, I've had my ear twisted. It stings a little, but its not like its going to permanently damage me or give me long-term trauma.

Some of the stuff I see kids do,(once I saw a kid go to the toilet in a photobooth, while I was serving his mother on the checkout), and they just get away with it.
My parents were fairly strict, and I was a little scared of them.

And thats good, a little fear, some knowledge of boundaries, a bit of a reality check. Its what kids need.

(Else they'd end up causing chaos and mayhem like in Lord of the Flies! XD)

At least now, they will be very wary of where they play ball (if they aren't, then they are pretty stupid kids).
 

Gottesstrafe

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They are not your kids, you should not be taking it upon yourself to punish them. They damaged your property, you have the right to demand compensation from their parents. They trespassed into your property, you have the right to escort them out (personally I would've just dragged them by the arm to their parent's house). You have the right to be pissed at them, you have the right to get into a shouting match with their mother, but you don't have the right to physically harm them (even something as minor as twisting their ear). If I were the mother, I'd be pissed at you too.
 

BeeGeenie

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If they threaten to sue, threaten to tell the judge you were in the process of performing a Citizen's Arrest for Trespassing, and Vandalism. The ear pinch was to subdue the subject until the authorities arrived, but you decided not to press charges.
 

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spartandude said:
ok so where i live theres a small space to park your cars and then right next to it is my graden
alot of times kids will use the car park to play football (thats european btw) and occasionally someone accidently kicks the ball over my fence and they knock on my door asking for it back which i am more than happy to do.

however the over day they kicked the ball over my fence and smashed one of the windows on my greenhouse. now this has me a little pissed, i would still get the ball but ask them to get their parents to talk about atleast some compansation for the damages. but rather than knocking on my door the kids this time decided to climb over my fence, which in doing so they broke the fence and trespassed on my property.

as you may guess im rather pissed off by this, as they snuck into my garden (or tried to) i caught them, grabbed them and walked them out of my property by their ears. it just so happens at that time their mum was looking for them (as best i gathered they should have been home for something) and i walk them out still twisting their ears (yes it hurts but doesnt do any damage). when their mom see's me doing this she flips at me, saying i have no right to punish her children. i try to calm her down explaining the situation to her but she continues to yell it me at which point i start yelling back telling her that her kids have no right to trespass and that they damaged my property (for which i was given money for by her rather understanding husband).

yet in her eyes her kids have every right to do what they want and i am a horrible person for essentially diciplining her children

so my question for you escapists is, was I out of line to punish the children (essentially twisting their ears and walking them out of my garden) and telling her to dicipline her own children

also just for reference no im not a parent myself


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Fuck no. You weren't disciplining her kids, you were getting them off your property after they trespassed. Remind her that you could have just as easily called the cops, had them arrested and pressed charges for trespassing and vandalism and I bet she'll shut up right quick.

If that doesn't work, point out that you still could.
 

spartan231490

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I can't believe the number of people who are supporting the mother here. Obviously people who have neither children nor property.

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Go ahead, do it
 

Amaury_games

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I, for one, don't see any rpoblem with what you did. It was just an ear twist, for God's sake! You didn't spank them or anything else. In my eyes, it is a more harsh way to get the kids to their parents and explain what they did. The parents should be pissed at their kids, for breaking your window and trespassing.
 

Seanfall

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No no you weren't. Twisting their ears was fine. Now if you'd tried to spank them or something like that yeah that's a little much for not being their parent's. But no I don't think what you did was out of line.
 

texanarob

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Were you out of line? Legally, yes you were. Modern society tries to protect everybody and tends to be ridiculously lenient on most punishments.

Morally and logically, you were perfectly in line, just unfortunately morality and logic aren't accounted for in most legal systems.

By the way, the paint you want is called anti-vandal paint or anti-climb paint. Where you can get it is dependant on where you live.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-climb_paint
 

Link Kadeshi

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I'd say you might have gone over the line, but then again... See, in America at least, you could've called the cops and even sued if you were so willing. In that light, what you did wasn't the bad option. Also relevant, I've heard of someone who escorted a kid from their garage by pulling their arm, caused a bruise and got arrested, even though the kid was stealing.

Parents will ALWAYS see the more compassionate side when it comes to kids. When I was a kid, this would've made it clear I did wrong. I personally am a child of spankings, and learned the rules darn fine, thank you.

Captcha: What company makes the Aspire S4? Uhh... WHAT?! I wasn't gonna buy a laptop, but now I feel compelled to buy an HP Envy for some reason... Weird.
 

Mr_Universal

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Take ball, stab it with knife, give it back.

: I said no in the poll, unless you really damaged them (to me that is if they started bleeding or got bruises on/around their ears. Scaring kids so they piss themselves is quite easy too...and fun
 

TheDrunkNinja

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spartandude said:
yet in her eyes her kids have every right to do what they want and i am a horrible person for essentially diciplining her children
Doubtful.

Still, you have the right of your own property, and they were trespassing and destroying it.

Probably shouldn't have twisted their ears though. Just escort them back to their parents personally next time without any trivial violence against the kids.