Poll: Which Fallout faction is best for humanity?

[azraelthor]

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I could be dead wrong but doesn't Yes Man banish you from New Vegas and take over at the end of the the Independent Vegas senario?

Banish? Nah. He says he found some buried code that would let him be more personally assertive (rather than being the pushover he is now), and that it'll take him some time to dig it up. At the close of the Independent Vegas ending he's more of a facilitator than a ruler.

Plus, you know, dude's a robot. If needed he could be reprogrammed. Especially if you have the Robotics Expert perk.

I always took from the way he said it to basically mean that he was going to be the new House

 

[chaos order]

i prefer house, although he his sort of like a totalitarian ruler he has the most knowledge of how society worked before the whole nuclear apocalypse. Hes also a genius and is trying to develop technology to restore water and plant life. i think the the wasteland is too choatic at the moment for any sort of democracy to work effectively.

 

[ultrachicken]

Enclave. Everyone else seems like savages poking advanced tech with sticks.Tech would cover up an amazing amount of annoyance with other facets of their governance. Food,power,safety and medicine? Sign me up.

The problem there is that the Enclave has a strict no outsiders policy. They really only care about sustaining themselves, not others.

I have always gone for the NCR. They have the most potential to secure a stable government, they're democratic, and they don't go around murdering people for braindead reasons (looking at you, Legion).

The legion is unsustainable because the entire organization is about following Caesar. They don't actually understand his ideals, only that they should do what he says. Once Caesar dies, which would likely happen soon considering his age, the legion would likely split and crumble.

Mr. House is batshit insane. Simple as that.

 

[WorldFree55]

The Brotherhood of Steel. Why? Power Armor!

 

[Baneat]

Is it possible to choose yourself? I'd pick myself, then create a minimal state afterwards, which would definitely require me to remove myself from power at some point.

 

[Chicago Ted]

House just wants your money, pure and simple. As a living, breathing person you don't mean squat to him unless you are useful in some way. If you aren't, go piss your money away in a casino and GTFO.

Yes, House wants your money, but you are missing the entire point as to why he wants your money.

Simply put, House seems to be one of the few people capable of advancing New Vegas. The NCR will just stagnate it, the Legion will send it backwards, and anarchy will leave it somewhere in between depending on your actions. If it wasn't for the efforts of House in the first place, there wouldn't be a New Vegas left, at least not one you'd be able to recognize. With the money that House generates from New Vegas, his goal wasn't to simply hoard it, but to invest it. He wanted to create society from the ground up. He had visions of the future with what he could do with New Vegas. Plans of recreating rail lines that would cross the country once more. Plans for remaking the high tech sector, and having technology start advancing once more. I was kinda iffy on House before, but when you see what he's planning, and the capability he has, I don't think there are any others on this list suited for handling New Vegas.

And on a side note, fuck the BOS.

 

[Littlee300]

Whatchu talkin' bout, Willis? Obviously it's the Followers of the Apocalypse. They're dedicated to helping everyone.

They creep me out. I felt like they had dead bodies in the basement.
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Meh, IDK l:

 

[Vandenberg1]

NCR has the most potential for a log term Gov. Look at the BROTHERHOOD... Stagnation and never changing laws and rules leads to stagnation and decline. Caeser's slave Army is veryyy short term and will collapse fast. NCR has the best beauracracy and potential. My two cents.

 

[Ghengis John]

I for one think it'll be interesting when the east coast brotherhood of steel meets the NCR. They're still brotherhood, and likely carry around the scars of the brotherhood's war with the NCR. And the NCR for their part will probably be surprised to find the brotherhood already out there. They are however doing things differently than the West coast brotherhood. Their actions have probably done a great deal to endear them to the locals and since they recruit from the populace by the time the NCR reaches them they could potentially have solved the brotherhood's greatest problems, being their small numbers and isolationism. If they're something like the authority of their region by that time that would make things all the more interesting. Of course they have a lot of catching up to do with the NCR. Organization on the east coast is virtually non existent and they're still scavenging tech as opposed to manufacturing it. I'm wondering what a brotherhood run society would look like? Strings of fortresses?

Anybody know whatever happened to the Shi? As I recall they were a serious player on the world power scene, they even got their hands on the schematics for vertibirds but now I hear nothing.

 

[stutheninja]

Clearly the Republic of Dave is the way to go.

true that hahaha but i think that the legion has the best plan of action, people will get hurt and die, but that always happens when shit hits the fan (for examples please see Europe after the fall of the roman empire). you need a guy with a big stick and even bigger balls to beat everyone into line to form some semblance of a society. plus i think Caesar is a bit more informed about his situation than most think, personally i think he would set up a feudal system of sort, but still reign as king, but thats just me...

 

[Moromillas]

.... NCR are the bad guys.... Apocalypse and Boomers had the right idea. Work together to improve the conditions for the people, and blast anyone that tries to steal your stuff.

 

[DazBurger]

Followers of the Apocalypse.
Without a doubt.

That and the Washington part of the Brothers of Steel.

 

[albear]

Followers of the Apocolypse ftw, they just let people get on with it, and work to help behind the scenes, they kick ass

 

[Harbinger_]

Spoiler

The part where you create your own with the robot army of course assisted by the Followers of the Apocalypse after you've given the boot to Caesar and the NCR. I did it with all factions thinking I was awesome so I had the firepower of the boomers and the technical know-how of the Brotherhood and the remnants, the remnants who if the game would let me I would give amnesty to as they helped the war-effort and they are essentially defectors anyway. Also House is dead. The NCR mismanaged everything and Chief Hanlon even admitted in the game that the NCR couldn't keep a sustained front in the Mojave.

Also the reason they mismanaged everything is because it was all about brahmin barons and people that cared more about hoover dam's power supply than the actual people.

 

[Lt. Vinciti]

House.

NCR - They are like Modern Day America...stomp on everyone...
Legion - They have Pros and Cons....Safety to Women Slavery seems to be a big 2
Yes Man - You arent Immortal....unlike Mr.House
Brotherhood of Steel - They dont seem to care about people


I choose Mr.House as he seems on the ball....Yes you can call him nuts but he has goals and those dont include push everyone around who doesnt see it your way...such as seeing Humanity back to the way it was....he has the numbers to do it...

 

[Vault101]

Either the NCR or East Coast Brotherhood of Steel.

The Legion will collapse once Caesar dies ( you kill him, the cancer does or he does of old age), the Enclave can't adapt to the new environment, and House's ideas will get stopped dead once the lack of proper resources and cooperation becomes apparent. The normal Brotherhood of Steel can't survive either; their ideas about technology and acceptance just will not hold up for very long in the Wastelands. (The sad part too is during New Vegas you get to see that even people of the main body of the Brotherhood realize this, but refuse to change or adapt, and basically validate everything Elder Lyons and the East Coast Brotherhood were saying/doing.)

The east coast brotherhood are dying as well, and for no reason. Why protect civilians from a contrived threat? And in a place where there are no people? The CHICAGO brotherhood is correct, but the east coast one is just contrived and nonsensical.

I hardly call the Super Mutants and Enclave a "contrived" threat.

They are. There is no actual explanation as to why they are still alive. Super Mutants need FEV, without it they will die a quick death. In fact, there would be no super mutants in the DC area. The Enclave members on the oil rig were infected with an FEV strain that killed everyone on the rig. Navarro wouldn't last long without the rig.

Either the NCR or East Coast Brotherhood of Steel.

The Legion will collapse once Caesar dies ( you kill him, the cancer does or he does of old age), the Enclave can't adapt to the new environment, and House's ideas will get stopped dead once the lack of proper resources and cooperation becomes apparent. The normal Brotherhood of Steel can't survive either; their ideas about technology and acceptance just will not hold up for very long in the Wastelands. (The sad part too is during New Vegas you get to see that even people of the main body of the Brotherhood realize this, but refuse to change or adapt, and basically validate everything Elder Lyons and the East Coast Brotherhood were saying/doing.)

The east coast brotherhood are dying as well, and for no reason. Why protect civilians from a contrived threat? And in a place where there are no people? The CHICAGO brotherhood is correct, but the east coast one is just contrived and nonsensical.

you should keep in mind however, that after the events of fallout 3 (including broken steel) and the involvment of the lone wander they are probably doing alot better than when you first encountered them

plus there seems to be alot of them and they actually recruit people

also the brother hood in NV cleary shows that being dicks if you dont get your way isnt the best way to go..as for the outcasts? not sure how they will fare....probably keep on going how they are since theres no NCR there to get in the way

Except they lose members to Super Mutants every day, and the time for a replacement is about 18 years, 9 months. Recruits from outside? There is no one in DC. The Chicago Brotherhood actually does something instead of standing around a broken city for no real reason.

Im not saying they are better, but I dont think they are as screwed as some people make out

because we dont actually know how they faired after broken steel, think about it, the defeated the enclave, whcih means acess to some of their gear and some of their rescources

plus the Lone wander I think at some point told them that the super muties were coming from vault...I forgot the name, one of the vaults..I mean with that info mabye they somehow managed to wipe out or lessen the threat

I mean there are people around DC....anyway mabye they did move on...who knows?

Vault 87, which has no FEV left. How do they transform anyone with no FEV vats? It makes no sense, and they should be extinct. The holotape in Elder Lyon's room confirms he was a failure as an elder as he helped no one, and is fighting a losing battle against the mutants. There may be people around DC, but not enough to recruit. Hell, the BOS should patrol around DC and protect the people at the outskirts if they cared so much, instead of fighting in the city where there are no actual towns.

...well I will say I dont think anyone can be 100% sure on how the fallout 3 brotherhood turned out, and I doubt they were much better off long term than the new vegas brotherhood

plus yeah...mabye they did do what you just said who knows? if they can defeat the ENCLAVE..I mean the big technologically supiror ENCLAVE then...who knows

 

[SoopaSte123]

The world has gone to hell. As historians know, anarchy is usually followed by a dictatorship, and a dictatorship is what the world needs. The mighty Caesar will conquer all the warring tribes that the NCR can't deal with and unite the world under one banner.

Yes, it will eventually crumble, but with the inevitable transition into war, larger groups will form that will become countries, which is what needs to happen opposed to keeping the multitudes of small tribes around. With countries united (probably against one another), they will then make scientific and social advances to out-do one another, thus improving human society.

Ok, so there's a little slavery, rape, and crucifixion on the way to human advancement, but the ends justify the means.

Ave, true to Caesar.

 

[SoopaSte123]

The world has gone to hell. As historians know, anarchy is usually followed by a dictatorship, and a dictatorship is what the world needs. The mighty Caesar will conquer all the warring tribes that the NCR can't deal with and unite the world under one banner.

Yes, it will eventually crumble, but with the inevitable transition into war, larger groups will form that will become countries, which is what needs to happen opposed to keeping the multitudes of small tribes around. With countries united (probably against one another), they will then make scientific and social advances to out-do one another, thus improving human society.

Ok, so there's a little slavery, rape, and crucifixion on the way to human advancement, but the ends justify the means.

Ave, true to Caesar.

except Caesar's legion is expanding with no way to become a country. The farther he expands, the bigger the fall when Caesar dies. In short, just like Joshua Graham said, Caesar is an idiot. His troops are just tribals, who care nothing for progress outside their kill counts.

People need to be unified. "No way to become a country"? Unification means they're a country. Get everyone in one big group, homogenized so you get rid of the BoS racism and such, and the rest will take care of itself. Right now the biggest problem is everyone is of a different allegiance. I mean, in this TINY area around New Vegas think of how many factions there are.

If when Caesar dies and someone else takes over and mishandles things, if people revolt you still have a sizable group banding together, and that's what we need. No more little tribes stuff. Big picture. No one in New Vegas seems to see the big picture, but Caesar is heading down the right path. Roughly. Even if he doesn't see it.

 

[Riff Moonraker]

To be honest, I wasnt really satisfied with the endings with ANY of them. I suppose the closest to what I would prefer would be the NCR... but even that was severely lacking for me.

Hell, I just finished up the latest DLC with the burned man in it, went with the option I liked least, and after the end results I felt I chose the best for last (which is what I was trying to do).. when I did the ending I felt was best, I was left feeling even WORSE!

There seems to be a pervasive feeling of screwing something up no matter what you do in this game...

 

[Nedoras]

Honestly the Midwestern Brotherhood of Steel. They just seem to be the most efficient out of all the groups. For one they don't discriminate against anything or anyone, hell they have deathclaws and supermutants as members. They also don't seem to oppress the people that live in their territory. From what I can see, they only require recruits every now and then from the tribal villages that live in their territory. They have extremely impressive tech, including tanks and other vehicles. They're just a really well armed and well trained group that gets shit done. They're basically the original Brotherhood if they weren't stupid. Hell it's not like they keep all that tech to themselves and do jack all with it. They use their tech to expand their territory and protect those that live in their territory. They're not afraid to take in new members as well, regardless of who or what it is. In my eyes, they have the most potential to live on and expand, while protecting those that live on their land.