Question of the Day, August 12, 2010
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i made it about halfway through that article, but it's so misinformed, i couldn't continue on. i don't understand how it seems to think that these games were inspirations for others mentioned, especially when half of them weren't the first in the genre to do said things, nor were any of them even close to the best for their time in the fields described.chstens said:
I agree that the list doesn't really include any influential game at all. Games like Devil May Cry that created a whole new genre, or like Halo which despite being considered crap by many (including me), created a new era of console multiplayer, or GTA which was the father of all modern sandbox games. Gran Turismo basically created the simulation driving genre. Even Wii Fit started new trends and brought millions of new players to the gaming scene. I won't even explain why Ultima or World of Warcraft or Starcraft should be in such a list.
What has Fable 2 influenced? Or god damn Harvest Moon?
What has Fable 2 influenced? Or god damn Harvest Moon?
AgreedJack_Uzi said:
With Dune2 and Quake/Doom/Wolfenschtine ish whats left?
Hell I'd say Farmville have affected gaming more then any of above mentioned have.
Not with games themself but with reaching out to people who would else just condescend games.
Farmville have been where no game have been before, everywhere.
What about say Starcraft? While the game itself have not been revolutionary it have created such a culture behind it(ie Korea) where there are SC tv channels and whatnot, if that is not changing the gaming as a whole what is?
I'll definitely agree that the WoW IP has its roots in Warhammer, which in turn had its roots in Tolkien, so I won't claim that it's all original, though they're definitely not just a derivation. I still think it changed gaming the most, on the broadest scale, given what a localized and broad cultural impact its had. I agree that's kind of a vague question to begin with, but love it or hate it, it's hard to deny the impact its had on gaming.Fusionxl said:Meh, I can't really agree with you. WoW borrowed practically everything from previous RPGs and Tolkien, it does have a few unique bits, but there is nothing too groundbreaking that hasn't been done before.mattaui said:
My most influential list would definitely include Half-Life for inventing the modern FPS storytelling, Halo for making regenerative health and "realism" popular, Doom for practically creating the FPS genre ( duh) and prolly Deus Ex simply for pure excellence and taking the bar above the clouds.
However, yes, all the other games you mentioned did change gaming a lot, unquestionably, and are all very dear to my heart, and it's a crime they weren't mentioned. This is one lousy poll put together by someone who must actually not play games.
This isn't a list of INNOVATIVE games, it's a list of INFLUENTIAL games. You'd be surprised how rare it is for the two to cross.Fusionxl said:Meh, I can't really agree with you. WoW borrowed practically everything from previous RPGs and Tolkien, it does have a few unique bits, but there is nothing too groundbreaking that hasn't been done before.mattaui said:
My most influential list would definitely include Half-Life for inventing the modern FPS storytelling, Halo for making regenerative health and "realism" popular, Doom for practically creating the FPS genre ( duh
I mean, really. Starcraft is bread-and-butter RTS with the WH40k story. Polished to hell and back, but there it is. Half Life... I mean, really, Half Life wasn't very innovative at all except in narrative style. Final Fantasy? Please, it's a dumbed down version of DnD...
World of Warcraft may not have been innovative, but it DID bring MMOs to an impossibly larger market and turn them into the bajillion-dollar industry-within-an-industry that they are today.
Also, after reading the original article...
OH MY GOD
Saying that LoZ:FSA influenced Monster Hunter in ANY way is fucking idiotic! I cannot find words to express the sheer incalcuable idiocy of that statement. Associated Content has garnered a mighty foe this day.
How did Animal Crossing lead to the MySims games and The Sims 3? According to the article that happened.
I'm pretty sure the original Sims game led to those games. Maybe I'm just foolish. Yeah, on topic of the poll, I don't particularly agree with the article or those choices. They say "Most Influential" but the article goes on to talk about impacts that are minimally influential in niche areas.
I'm pretty sure the original Sims game led to those games. Maybe I'm just foolish. Yeah, on topic of the poll, I don't particularly agree with the article or those choices. They say "Most Influential" but the article goes on to talk about impacts that are minimally influential in niche areas.
Don't think any of those changed anything in the market on large enough scale to make it noticeable. Half of those games are just another attempts at various sims i've seen nearly 20 years ago. Nothing really that innovative among those titles that would make them some sort of markers of the new age.
Well, let's see. Out of that list, I've never even heard of:
Pikmin
Mobile Suit Gundam: Federation Vs Zeon
Godzilla Unleashed
Disgaea
Harvest Moon
Not saying that they aren't good, or possibly great, games. But their impact can't exactly have "changed gaming" all that much...
Pikmin
Mobile Suit Gundam: Federation Vs Zeon
Godzilla Unleashed
Disgaea
Harvest Moon
Not saying that they aren't good, or possibly great, games. But their impact can't exactly have "changed gaming" all that much...
Something they realized was a mistake and have yet to do again.Dioxide20 said:
Also, how in the world did Fable or Fable II in any way inspire Asassin's Creed?
For those who are wondering, this is the article that the question is talking about [http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/5580234/8_video_games_that_changed_gaming_without.html?cat=19]. It's not so much an article about the games that changed the industry, but more about the the games that changed the industry without people actually realizing it (so games like Half-Life aren't on there because nearly everyone and their dog knows what it did for the industry).
As far as what I picked, I chose Animal Crossing. Why? Because nearly everyone in my extended family who wasn't a gamer before the Wii hit went and got a Wii to play Animal Crossing. Sure, it might have inspired changes to the life sim genre (that's not called Harvest Moon), but it's also a game that's actually bringing non-gamers into the mainstream. Hell, it even made my mom get a DS and start playing the Gamecube in the back room for more Animal Crossing, too.
As far as what I picked, I chose Animal Crossing. Why? Because nearly everyone in my extended family who wasn't a gamer before the Wii hit went and got a Wii to play Animal Crossing. Sure, it might have inspired changes to the life sim genre (that's not called Harvest Moon), but it's also a game that's actually bringing non-gamers into the mainstream. Hell, it even made my mom get a DS and start playing the Gamecube in the back room for more Animal Crossing, too.
OK, after reading the article I can see there's a couple good points and a couple points of bollocks - Considering the continuing lack of solid RTS's for consoles, it doesn't seem that Pikmin changed much, and in fact I felt the gameplay for Overlord was a little bland because it tried too hard to be like Pikmin and wasn't as good. This just off a demo, mind you, but still. If a demo can't get you interested, that's its own fault.
I fail to see how they could think that Disgaea influenced any of Square-Enix's games considering they had been making Tactics games forever, and I also question the poster's knowledge of Disgaea 2: while the plot wasn't that complex, it was not "a glorified love story."
In any case, some good points are made, some bad points are made. More bad than good in my opinion, but so be it. Just another article about gaming I guess.
I fail to see how they could think that Disgaea influenced any of Square-Enix's games considering they had been making Tactics games forever, and I also question the poster's knowledge of Disgaea 2: while the plot wasn't that complex, it was not "a glorified love story."
In any case, some good points are made, some bad points are made. More bad than good in my opinion, but so be it. Just another article about gaming I guess.
... Absolutely none of those games were really that influential at all. Who made that list again? "Associated Content"? I submit that the people there don't know anything about gaming. Super Mario Bros, Wolfeinstein 3D, Doom, Super Mario 64, Halo, Gears of War, GTA III... Those are a few games I would say when someone asked me for a game that changed gaming. Not those random games they came up with.
How can you even say Four Swords Adventures when it was just a sequel to Four Swords? Oi.
How can you even say Four Swords Adventures when it was just a sequel to Four Swords? Oi.
Something they realized was a mistake and have yet to do again.[/quote]Except they have: Four Swords Adventures (which sucked sadly), Phantom Hourglass, and Spirit Tracks. None of them were ever as good as the original Four Swords, which was an awesome game. But then they made that awful Four Swords Adventures which took almost everything fun about Four Swords and buried it in the backyard and now they probably won't make a new Four Swords game that's good because of how bad FSA bombed.Dioxide20 said: