Rage Cuts Single-Player When You Buy It Used

[mstickle]

This is just horrid. Every bloody time my husband and I get a game that has one of these pass things there's always question as to whether we will both be able to access the content or only one of us. Sometimes we both can, others have limited access (Cerberus for example, I can use the DLC but not cerberus itself) and occasionally one is totally locked out from the content (extra content codes in the box for Assasins Creed games are like this). There is no way to be sure until we both try to access the content. We have to decide who the game is more important to and they get to enter the code and the other hopes for access.

We never purchase used so why exactly should we be punished because some do? It's bad enough that games can cost up to $120 dollars in Australia, no wonder people buy used and no wonder people trade in games so they can get new games.

Despite the above I can understand "project ten dollar" type things and I'm okay paying it if I were to buy used, but as a customer that will buy almost every game on release day it's bullcrap to worry that I may have to pay more so we can both have the full experience.

 

[Epona]

This is just horrid. Every bloody time my husband and I get a game that has one of these pass things there's always question as to whether we will both be able to access the content or only one of us. Sometimes we both can, others have limited access (Cerberus for example, I can use the DLC but not cerberus itself) and occasionally one is totally locked out from the content (extra content codes in the box for Assasins Creed games are like this). There is no way to be sure until we both try to access the content. We have to decide who the game is more important to and they get to enter the code and the other hopes for access.

We never purchase used so why exactly should we be punished because some do? It's bad enough that games can cost up to $120 dollars in Australia, no wonder people buy used and no wonder people trade in games so they can get new games.

Despite the above I can understand "project ten dollar" type things and I'm okay paying it if I were to buy used, but as a customer that will buy almost every game on release day it's bullcrap to worry that I may have to pay more so we can both have the full experience.

DRM hurts the paying customers. They have even taken to locking save files on some games because those don't belong to you either, apparently.

 

[Straitjacketeering]

Never wanted to buy this game, now it wonderfully reinforces my decision, which is just delicious...

 

[Apollo45]

Oh my god, they're cutting a side-quest from the game! How horrible!

Seriously, it's not always-on DRM, it's not cutting huge, vital parts of the game out, it's just giving people incentive to give some money to the publishers instead of giving it to the used game sellers. The devs deserve some of the money too; if you can't afford it first hand the day it comes out, give it six months and buy it for $30. So you didn't get it the week it came out, who cares?

I'm thinking this is the way to go about doing it. I feel like they should make players who buy the game used able to purchase the unlock online (or through either of the console marketplaces), but if they don't choose to do it that way then that's their choice. They spend, what, a year plus developing and making this game, and you get it off what is essentially a legitimate black market and complain that they want a bit of cash so you can play it? Especially if you're playing multiplayer, which uses up space on the servers they pay for, they deserve some cash for it.

 

[the_green_dragon]

*sniff sniff* I smell a shit-storm of a boycott coming. Well done id, you've excluded a huge percent of the gaming community because you want to make money. Give them a round of applaud ladies and gents, id has become the biggest dick in the gaming industry! They're not stopping pirates; they're stopping people who come a little to late for the party!

Pirates rejoice!

Ok so let's say you are put in charge of his hypothetical boycott. In order for this to succeed you have to convince people to not buy the game at launch and to cancel their preorders. So let's say I've preordered Rage. What will you say to me to convince me to cancel my preorder and join your cause?

Sure, they're locking out a small part of the single player campaign thats equal to some first day DLC. If this actually increases their profts whats to stop them locking out half the game next time? lets nip it in the bud now

 

[the_green_dragon]

However, if I buy a PRODUCT, that product is MINE by law.

That argument might work before the law if you weren't actually purchasing a license. The terms of which you agree to when you install the software.

u don't install console games... theres no agreement. i buy it, pop it in and play

 

[Still Life]

However, if I buy a PRODUCT, that product is MINE by law.

That argument might work before the law if you weren't actually purchasing a license. The terms of which you agree to when you install the software.

u don't install console games... theres no agreement. i buy it, pop it in and play

Doesn't matter. The licensing would adjust for that; It's still licensed software whether you install on a HD or not.

 

[mrdude2010]

correct me if I'm wrong but won't pirates hack the game anyway so you get the full single player portion? If that is not true then this makes sense. If a pirated version is available though that is better then what you can get from a used version aren't they shooting themselves in the foot?

I think they would be better off getting some type of % of sales on used games (from major retailers at least). Perhaps 10% of the value of any used game sale should go to the original company that produced it.

i really don't get why they're locking the single player- it's a lot easier to crack single player so that it works without the key than it is to get multiplayer working without the key

i agree, if game developers are going to insist on being tremendous assholes, they might as well make it moderately more convenient to us by causing the price to go up at gamestop rather than forcing us to put another 800 microsoft points on the account to unlock half the game

 

[Archangel768]

I wish people wouldn't buy games that used things like this. Too bad so many gamers exist these days therefor meaning that there will be more and more idiots that won't think twice when purchasing games that rip people off like this. No other product on this planet has such ridiculous precautions in place when it comes to the used game market and even the new game market as well (always online etc)

It goes to show how the game developers that once treated their games with respect see them as nothing more than a tool to swindle more and more money out of unsuspecting victims. I only wish there was a way of getting my point across to the masses but, I know that these messages will probably just fall on deaf ears.

Developers have been doing this for years, its called day one DLC. A tiny section of the game is held back for people who buy it new
Christ I wouldn't have to correct everyone if they'd read the f*cking article

Yes, I know developers have been doing that for years and I didn't say otherwise, when I was mentioning the past, I meant games that were older than the whole DLC deal. And I am obviously annoyed at those developers as well. Fortunately it seems as though I have avoided purchasing games that did such a thing, at least brand new as far as I'm aware. Sorry if what I said in my earlier post offended you.

 

[Himmelgeher]

Oh... wow. I was actually going to go pre-order this tomorrow. But now... I'm certainly not supporting shit like this. For the record, I have no problem with devs putting a free DLC code in the box or giving something a bit extra to people who buy the game new (see the Cerberus Network), but this... fuck this.

 

[joshthor]

eh, if i buy it it will be used from work. i will still get the content. how? cause i rent the game on release day and snag a manual! boo ya!

 

[Andaxay]

I can understand the developers feeling they need to earn something from the thousands of pre-owned sales. But what about people that genuinely can't afford a new copy? What about families with multiple PSN/XBL accounts that have to buy MORE THAN ONE COPY just to be able to access the extra parts? I've had more than a few wives and husbands in the store I work in complaining about the fact they have to buy more than one copy of Fifa 11 for their household just 'cause both sons want to play online. Good thing Activision and Treyarch weren't that stupid when they brought Black Ops out and didn't lock the online with a key - complaints would've been rife.

Can't stores and developers just reach some sort of agreement that lets devs take a small slice of the pre-owned profit? Cutting all this bullcrap altogether? Stores have to make money, too, y'know.

 

[CrazyMedic]

well...

screw you too id

yeah id wanting to make money I Mean what the fuck just because I am too cheap to buy the game new doesn't mean I shouldn't get their blood sweat and tears.

 

[00slash00]

Oh... wow. I was actually going to go pre-order this tomorrow. But now... I'm certainly not supporting shit like this. For the record, I have no problem with devs putting a free DLC code in the box or giving something a bit extra to people who buy the game new (see the Cerberus Network), but this... fuck this.

how is this so much different though? to me this doesnt really seem like punishing people who buy it used, it seems more like rewarding people who buy it new. this is certainly better than what other companies have tried (capcom, im glaring in your direction)

 

[GeorgW]

What is it with developers and publishers making such moronic moves lately? I would have bought this game new, but because of this I won't even buy it. I wasn't that into the game in the first place, and this is just a dick move.

 

[stewox]

They want to make money because they spent 7 years working on rage

you'll all making a mistake over something so irrelevant ... something that they just use to make up publicity - id Software has not been in contact with the community for A LONG LONG time and tim willits appears to be using a too consoleish approach. I treat those as mistakes and move on - i have made several threads about this in official RAGE formus.


escapist community is one of the weirdest about RAGE - nobody else talks like that - completely baseless.
Raging over stupid day one DLC who cares about it - I NEVER buy ANY DLC at all unless i can get it at retail - and im not paying 15? for some 5 maps and 3 stickers and 2 skins - bullcrap.

And in RAGE's case this is not first day DLC at all - this is a pile of irrelevant info.

see this AND READ IT: http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=150325


AFTER THIS NEGATIVE FALLOUT THEY FINALLY CONFIRMED RAGE IS USING STEAMWORKS FOR ACTIVATION - NO ALWAYS ON DRM.

And for once and for all - get into the REAL SOURCES of information - escapist has the MOST DECEPTIVE articles i have ever seen - the titles are ALWAYS wrong! - appears like some editor is doing bad stuff on purpose.

You can get the PC version for 26 GBP that's like 30 EUR and 41$ on Amazon UK - that's not just a deal - that's a STEAL.

The PC version will get modding tools as well as super-quality texture packs later.

Stop raging over misinformation. The mainstream media is the sole source of misinformation.

Do you want to know what was the TITLE of this article at first: "Used RAGE has no Singleplayer"
I have no idea how could that happen on mistake.

 

[killamanhunter]

well...

screw you too id

yeah id wanting to make money I Mean what the fuck just because I am too cheap to buy the game new doesn't mean I shouldn't get their blood sweat and tears.

at least in Bad Company 2 if you bought it used you get the four maps in multiplayer people like to play rather than pay and get them all.

 

[Clonekiller]

I'll just buy the game used and download a crack. After all, as long as you own the game, it's not really piracy, at least as far as the courts are concerned.

 

[stewox]

I'll just buy the game used and download a crack. After all, as long as you own the game, it's not really piracy, at least as far as the courts are concerned.

It'll be very funny to wait for that when nobody will be selling it.

 

[Piflik]

Oh... wow. I was actually going to go pre-order this tomorrow. But now... I'm certainly not supporting shit like this. For the record, I have no problem with devs putting a free DLC code in the box or giving something a bit extra to people who buy the game new (see the Cerberus Network), but this... fuck this.

But this is exactly what it is. You get this DLC for free, when you buy the game new. Read the full interview instead of this attention grabbing excuse of an article on the Escapist.