Rape Games Banned in Japan

[Grigori361]

I suppose that this game "normalize and promote sexual violence against women and girls" in much the same way that the Grand Theft Auto series normalized and promoted drug dealing and vehicular homicide... to be succinct IT'S A F***ING GAME!!!!! IT IS NOT REAL F***ING LIFE!!!!!. (all this being said, i believe all rapists shound be forcibly made into eunuchs (no more male genitalia)).

what about female rapists? it DOES happen .

 

[historybuff]

Holy crap. There's a market for games where the objective is raping women?

Christ, that's sick.

I mean, at least in war games, you're playing a soldier, fighting other soldiers who can defend themselves.

 

[Caliostro]

Bullshit, I have danced around nothing. I have said that the difference between what's acceptable and what's not is glorification. Rape is not something that can be portrayed in a positive or even a neutral light, because, as much as people who like video games like to deny it, media is one of the primary determining forces of those parts of reality that are beyond our immediate experience, and therefore has a strong influence over people's perceptions of things like war, violence, crime and yes, sex. What, specifically, are you disagreeing with me about?

Which game does not glorify violence, killing, or otherwise doing things that endanger other people?

Hello Kitty Online?

Barbie's Pony Adventures?

Almost every game we have today is about glorifying horrible things. Things we shouldn't do in real life, thus we do them in a game, where nobody is hurt.

The big issue here is, are we capable of differentiating games and real life? If we are it matters little whether we're playing a racing simulator driving through traffic at 100 miles per hour, a game where we have to shoot, bludgeon, stab, burn and garrot wire people to death, or a game where we're raping someone. If we can't, then it also doesn't matter because we really shouldn't be allowed to play ANY game anyways.

Is rape horrible? Yes. Is it more horrible than murder? No. Is murder wrong? Yes. Can a grown up, well adjusted person differentiate between games and real life? Yes.

 

[MrSnugglesworth]

I... Don't really care. Huh.

 

[nokelso]

If you're the type of person to actually rape someone, I doubt a game would be the thing to trigger you. Just have it appropriately warned so little Jimmy down the street doesn't play it.

 

[jad4400]

Rape is considered to by many to be the most depraved and heinous of crimes, even more heinous than murder or treason. The act takes away the feeling and basic human right of personal safety. For a victim was violated in a way that was sacred and the rapist uses sex which is normally an act of trust and love into a weapon. These games aren't a good release. The normal human being has a violent fantasy now and again, but most games depict them in an act of defense. Violent video games tend not harbor more of the mentality and promote it. They don't distort the violence as a magical thing where the victim "likes to be killed, or was just asking for it"These games are made for an audience that will continue to harbor these urges after playing. They are simply an excercise in sadism and morally abhorrent beliefs.

One in four women worldwide undergo some sexual abuse or harrassment. In Japan where sex crimes are high, and sexism goes deep into it's very laws, something has to be done.

We also need to draw the line on what we can show in fiction and virtual depictions, so that less controversy hits the mainstream. Art should have no boundaries, and be able to address anything and everything. However this is just immature, depraved trash that addresses the issue of rape in an irresponsible gratuitous pornographic light. We as a community know that the lowest selling controversial game garners an outrage, but rape simulators are estimated to account to 15-20 of the Japanese game market. This is heat we do not need.

We talk about how rape is a hideous thing, and that we need to teach our sisters and daughters how to live. But what do we teach our sons.

Well said, I couldn't agree more.

Now don't get me wrong, I hate it when games get banned or people put pressure on government to ban games. However rape games are one of the few games genres I'm very much for the banning of. Yes games are form of media expression, however we really do need to reach a point where we say that "O.K this is really fucked up" and close our doors to this kind of messed up shit.

 

[Glerken]

10-20% of video games in Japan are rape related?
...
No, I can't think of anything to say...

 

[Deef]

Wow, a womens rights group that actually got something done. Crazy!

 

[world_of_dragons]

I'll say this: The creators of the game have the right to free speech and whathaveyou. But this isn't so much a game made to make a statement, but a game made to make money off the demographic of hentai fans who enjoy watching rape.

Rape in sexualized media and those who enjoy them have been on my shitlist for a while. And while I condone free speech and freedom of expression... The banning of this game is something I'm not gonna fight tooth and nail against, or even care aout for that matter, so...

Fuck it

 

[Nuke_em_05]

It's strange... I am opposed to rape games, I'm appalled that they even exist, and am glad that they are getting banned. However, I advocate that games based on violence or criminal activty are okay. It's ironic that we all agree that a game based on rape is bad, but don't understand why some people find games based on violence, crimes, or drugs bad. I mean, "gamers" (used loosely) advocate that violence, crime, and drugs in games are just simulations that we act out in games and don't have tendencies toward in real life, and that maybe they are an alternative for those that would, but we wouldn't dare (myself included) make the same argument for a game based on rape. We might make the argument that someone who plays a game based on rape is a potential rapist, but we don't understand when critics of gaming claim that people who play games based on violence or crime might exhibit those tendancies in real life. It's just odd to me. Gamers (again, loosely) draw the line at rape, but don't understand why others draw the line at violence or crime.

 

[BioHazard19]

Damn feminists, ruining all our fun. (Just kidding, please don't kill me) I think that people should be able to play whatever they want, and if a game like this offends them, then they just shouldn't play it. Personally, I don't like this kind of game, but, hey, I'm not going to stop you from playing it.

 

[Woe Is You]

I think it needs to be repeated that this is a Japanese games ratings organization banning them, nothing to do with the law. Therefore the whole "freedom of speech" argument is kind of moot. You can still probably make such a game but it won't be rated and therefore a lot of places won't sell it (like it works in many other places in the world).

 

[nikosuave]

Finally!

 

[randommaster]

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaat??? But we rely on Japan for our crazy!

Dude if they get rid of rape porn and hentai and guro I'm never gonna forgive them

Japan is the last bastion of unadulterated crazy in the world. I say let them keep their games.

Nobody objected before, so this feels more like forced outrage, because otherwise, this would have come up sooner. If people are really against things like discrimination, they should actually try to change things on their own time instead of waiiting for people to make a fuss. It seems like it would be more productive to stop film and television writers from depicting women in steriotypical ways, as those are more widespread. These people just went after this game because it's an easy target that makes removal from the legal market seem like a difference and doesn't heavily impact the economy or approval ratings.

Too bad nobody will read this, as it is a jillion pages into the thread.

 

[scotth266]

The only problem with banning 'rape' games is that there's a pesky thing called "The Internet"... people will still be able to download these rape games.

True enough: banning the industry only drives it underground, and encourages fan developed games. Then again, such games would be quite lower in quality.

Of course, people could just skip across the border somewhere and make these games where they would be legal to produce as well.

So in the end, even if the ban on making the games is enforced, it only drives away the producers, and the customers get their games on the Internet.

 

[world_of_dragons]

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaat??? But we rely on Japan for our crazy!

Dude if they get rid of rape porn and hentai and guro I'm never gonna forgive them

Japan is the last bastion of unadulterated crazy in the world. I say let them keep their games.

Nobody objected before, so this feels more like forced outrage, because otherwise, this would have come up sooner. If people are really against things like discrimination, they should actually try to change things on their own time instead of waiiting for people to make a fuss. It seems like it would be more productive to stop film and television writers from depicting women in steriotypical ways, as those are more widespread. These people just went after this game because it's an easy target that makes removal from the legal market seem like a difference and doesn't heavily impact the economy or approval ratings.

Too bad nobody will read this, as it is a jillion pages into the thread.

Actually, you make a very good point. But again, since rape games is on my shitlist, I just don't care

 

[Cortheya]

Ok, I guess -I- will be the first to be against this.
Mostly it annoys me cause it seems more like people whining and being huge babies. Now, I know Japan does not have our government and laws (some we put on em yes, but not all) but still. Its like, why is this allowed but this not when it is very similar. So is games where girls are killed gonna be banned too? What about men/boys? Now yes, obviously few if any are playing these games for anything aside from sexual release, but for all we know it is a better outlet for peole with such fantasies. This is just like violence in gaming and is not going to make people who would not already do it start raping people or stalking them.
Equality Now, based on this they seem PETA-like. (Not a good thing)
Thats my view on this.

That is an interesting viewpoint and one I had not considered. This may be viewed as disgusting but it is freedom of speech and not the same thing as committing the act of rape.

 

[theSovietConnection]

mind you have any of is played this game? is it possible that in context the player is an outcast a criminal, maybe the overall climax of the game is getting your knob peeled off by a very angry midget using a heated wooden spoon, probly not but, we need both sides on the topic, maybe theres no story to this game, to provide people with a stupid game with no story ( gta or saints row) and a quick wank

I agree, it sounds bad because of the side its told on "GOOD NEWS! a game about RAPE has been banned because it's about RAPE and RAPE is bad... RAPE" it's oddly convincing to anybody with who has a dislike for the word rape, allow me to illuminate. replace the word rape with something else you hate and you will see what I mean.

hehehehe... "GOOD NEWS! a game about HALO has been banned because it's about HALO and HALO is bad... HALO" xD

Actually, I read the plot summary of it so that I at least know what I'm talking about and not running around yelling "OMG!!!!1!!! Teh rapezors!! BAN!!!!1!!!!!1!". The story is quite literally as follows:

Spoiler

Grope girl on train. Get arrested. Influential father gets you out of prison. Rape the mother and younger sister of the girl for revenge. Rape girl you groped. Turn them into sex slaves.

There is no concrete reason a game like this should exist. You cannot prove that this game either prevents rape or causes rape. Sure, that doesn't necessarily mean that stuff like this should be banned entirely. Just release games like these as shareware on sites and forums that cater to that particular community. That way, if it does prevent rape, you're still getting it out so that it might work the "good" it's possibly doing. I'd post more, but I'm not really in the mood to say much tonight, I'll get back to whoever takes issue with this whenever I get around to it.