Rape Games Not Banned in Japan After All

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sonidraw said:
Tenmar said:
You cannot be a proponent of free speech if you want things that you don't like banned especially if the content isn't in the country you live in or affects you.
You don't even know what free speech means.

Free speech does not mean the freedom to say or express anything you want in any medium you want without repercussions.

Free speech means the ability to say stuff and accept the consequences for what you say if it isn't taken well. If the consequences include criminal charges, you accept it and move on. That's free speech.
NO JUST NO free speech is NOT being punished for expressing yourself and your opinion im not even gonna comment on the rape thing but maybe you should look into the founding of America a little more in England anyone who spoke out against the king was killed according to your definition that is free speech take a history class
 

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TruthMan said:
sonidraw said:
Tenmar said:
You cannot be a proponent of free speech if you want things that you don't like banned especially if the content isn't in the country you live in or affects you.
You don't even know what free speech means.

Free speech does not mean the freedom to say or express anything you want in any medium you want without repercussions.

Free speech means the ability to say stuff and accept the consequences for what you say if it isn't taken well. If the consequences include criminal charges, you accept it and move on. That's free speech.
NO JUST NO free speech is NOT being punished for expressing yourself and your opinion im not even gonna comment on the rape thing but maybe you should look into the founding of America a little more in England anyone who spoke out against the king was killed according to your definition that is free speech take a history class
I don't think the American view on freedom of speech would apply here, as the ban would have been made according to Japanese Law.

To my knowledge Japan already has some strict censorship policies regarding violence, so they can most likely ban a game anytime they want.

Also, please use periods. They make reading much easier.
 

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Internet Kraken said:
TruthMan said:
sonidraw said:
Tenmar said:
You cannot be a proponent of free speech if you want things that you don't like banned especially if the content isn't in the country you live in or affects you.
You don't even know what free speech means.

Free speech does not mean the freedom to say or express anything you want in any medium you want without repercussions.

Free speech means the ability to say stuff and accept the consequences for what you say if it isn't taken well. If the consequences include criminal charges, you accept it and move on. That's free speech.
NO JUST NO free speech is NOT being punished for expressing yourself and your opinion im not even gonna comment on the rape thing but maybe you should look into the founding of America a little more in England anyone who spoke out against the king was killed according to your definition that is free speech take a history class
I don't think the American view on freedom of speech would apply here, as the ban would have been made according to Japanese Law.

To my knowledge Japan already has some strict censorship policies regarding violence, so they can most likely ban a game anytime they want.

Also, please use periods. They make reading much easier.
lol fine. im not even commenting on Japanese law cause i don't know it. however if you read the whole quote the first is about America being a hypocrite which would be pretty accurate.
 

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TruthMan said:
Internet Kraken said:
TruthMan said:
sonidraw said:
Tenmar said:
You cannot be a proponent of free speech if you want things that you don't like banned especially if the content isn't in the country you live in or affects you.
You don't even know what free speech means.

Free speech does not mean the freedom to say or express anything you want in any medium you want without repercussions.

Free speech means the ability to say stuff and accept the consequences for what you say if it isn't taken well. If the consequences include criminal charges, you accept it and move on. That's free speech.
NO JUST NO free speech is NOT being punished for expressing yourself and your opinion im not even gonna comment on the rape thing but maybe you should look into the founding of America a little more in England anyone who spoke out against the king was killed according to your definition that is free speech take a history class
I don't think the American view on freedom of speech would apply here, as the ban would have been made according to Japanese Law.

To my knowledge Japan already has some strict censorship policies regarding violence, so they can most likely ban a game anytime they want.

Also, please use periods. They make reading much easier.
lol fine. im not even commenting on Japanese law cause i don't know it. however if you read the whole quote the first is about America being a hypocrite which would be pretty accurate.
I see what you're saying.

Now if a game was made about brutally slaughtering Mexicans for no reason, would people still say it is protected by the Constitution?

EDIT: For the record I am not calling for a ban of these games for a number of reasons. However, tighter regulation of this content would be good.
 

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Internet Kraken said:
TruthMan said:
Internet Kraken said:
TruthMan said:
sonidraw said:
Tenmar said:
You cannot be a proponent of free speech if you want things that you don't like banned especially if the content isn't in the country you live in or affects you.
You don't even know what free speech means.

Free speech does not mean the freedom to say or express anything you want in any medium you want without repercussions.

Free speech means the ability to say stuff and accept the consequences for what you say if it isn't taken well. If the consequences include criminal charges, you accept it and move on. That's free speech.
NO JUST NO free speech is NOT being punished for expressing yourself and your opinion im not even gonna comment on the rape thing but maybe you should look into the founding of America a little more in England anyone who spoke out against the king was killed according to your definition that is free speech take a history class
I don't think the American view on freedom of speech would apply here, as the ban would have been made according to Japanese Law.

To my knowledge Japan already has some strict censorship policies regarding violence, so they can most likely ban a game anytime they want.

Also, please use periods. They make reading much easier.
lol fine. im not even commenting on Japanese law cause i don't know it. however if you read the whole quote the first is about America being a hypocrite which would be pretty accurate.
I see what you're saying.

Now if a game was made about brutally slaughtering Mexicans for no reason, would people still say it is protected by the Constitution?

EDIT: For the record I am not calling for a ban of these games for a number of reasons. However, tighter regulation of this content would be good.
Personally i think bans are just a good way of wasting money because we usually only ban things that are "bad" and the people that want them most likely don't have a respect for the law in the first place. honestly i don't know what your getting at
 

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Internet Kraken said:
TruthMan said:
Internet Kraken said:
TruthMan said:
sonidraw said:
Tenmar said:
You cannot be a proponent of free speech if you want things that you don't like banned especially if the content isn't in the country you live in or affects you.
You don't even know what free speech means.

Free speech does not mean the freedom to say or express anything you want in any medium you want without repercussions.

Free speech means the ability to say stuff and accept the consequences for what you say if it isn't taken well. If the consequences include criminal charges, you accept it and move on. That's free speech.
NO JUST NO free speech is NOT being punished for expressing yourself and your opinion im not even gonna comment on the rape thing but maybe you should look into the founding of America a little more in England anyone who spoke out against the king was killed according to your definition that is free speech take a history class
I don't think the American view on freedom of speech would apply here, as the ban would have been made according to Japanese Law.

To my knowledge Japan already has some strict censorship policies regarding violence, so they can most likely ban a game anytime they want.

Also, please use periods. They make reading much easier.
lol fine. im not even commenting on Japanese law cause i don't know it. however if you read the whole quote the first is about America being a hypocrite which would be pretty accurate.
I see what you're saying.

Now if a game was made about brutally slaughtering Mexicans for no reason, would people still say it is protected by the Constitution?

EDIT: For the record I am not calling for a ban of these games for a number of reasons. However, tighter regulation of this content would be good.
Well not exactly that but what about that game released by the Ku Klux Klan: Ethnic Cleansing. I mean...if they couldn't ban that...
 
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Ok, So it's perfectly okay to be a virtual omnicidal mass murderer who use the blood of his victims as moisturizer, but not okay to be a virtual rapist?

W. T. F.

A contradiction? You bet.
 

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GothmogII said:
Internet Kraken said:
TruthMan said:
Internet Kraken said:
TruthMan said:
sonidraw said:
Tenmar said:
You cannot be a proponent of free speech if you want things that you don't like banned especially if the content isn't in the country you live in or affects you.
You don't even know what free speech means.

Free speech does not mean the freedom to say or express anything you want in any medium you want without repercussions.

Free speech means the ability to say stuff and accept the consequences for what you say if it isn't taken well. If the consequences include criminal charges, you accept it and move on. That's free speech.
NO JUST NO free speech is NOT being punished for expressing yourself and your opinion im not even gonna comment on the rape thing but maybe you should look into the founding of America a little more in England anyone who spoke out against the king was killed according to your definition that is free speech take a history class
I don't think the American view on freedom of speech would apply here, as the ban would have been made according to Japanese Law.

To my knowledge Japan already has some strict censorship policies regarding violence, so they can most likely ban a game anytime they want.

Also, please use periods. They make reading much easier.
lol fine. im not even commenting on Japanese law cause i don't know it. however if you read the whole quote the first is about America being a hypocrite which would be pretty accurate.
I see what you're saying.

Now if a game was made about brutally slaughtering Mexicans for no reason, would people still say it is protected by the Constitution?

EDIT: For the record I am not calling for a ban of these games for a number of reasons. However, tighter regulation of this content would be good.
Well not exactly that but what about that game released by the Ku Klux Klan: Ethnic Cleansing. I mean...if they couldn't ban that...
I've never heard of this game (probably for obvious reasons).

Was this game actually sold legally?
 

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Look on the bright side, maybe real rape will now decline. Now all we need if for Naughty Altar Boy to come out and the world will be fine.
 

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MagnetoHydroDynamics said:
Ok, So it's perfectly okay to be a virtual omnicidal mass murderer who use the blood of his victims as moisturizer, but not okay to be a virtual rapist?

W. T. F.

A contradiction? You bet.
I think I know why people would perceive a game about rape being worse than a game about murder.

In a game like GTA, your not just supposed to kill people. You have objectives and goals to accomplish. The game isn't just about killing people. A rape game is just about raping people. But then there are games like Postal. I don't know much about Postal, but from what I've gathered it is a in which the only objective is the slaughter innocent people.

Even then, I can see why a rape game could be worse. In a game like Postal you are killing random people for no reason. You're not targeting anyone in specific to kill. In a rape game, the only people you bring harm to are young women. A violent game has you victimizing everyone for no reason, while a rape game has you only victimizing young women for sex. You could view this as being worse, as a specific group of people is being victimized. If a game was released in which you only kill women, It would probably receive a large amount of criticism as well.

Of course these are all just possibilities. Beyond the knee jerk reaction of "rape is disgusting", there could be a number of reasons as to why these should be banned.
 

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NoMoreSanity said:
Internet Kraken said:
GothmogII said:
Internet Kraken said:
TruthMan said:
Internet Kraken said:
TruthMan said:
sonidraw said:
Tenmar said:
You cannot be a proponent of free speech if you want things that you don't like banned especially if the content isn't in the country you live in or affects you.
You don't even know what free speech means.

Free speech does not mean the freedom to say or express anything you want in any medium you want without repercussions.

Free speech means the ability to say stuff and accept the consequences for what you say if it isn't taken well. If the consequences include criminal charges, you accept it and move on. That's free speech.
NO JUST NO free speech is NOT being punished for expressing yourself and your opinion im not even gonna comment on the rape thing but maybe you should look into the founding of America a little more in England anyone who spoke out against the king was killed according to your definition that is free speech take a history class
I don't think the American view on freedom of speech would apply here, as the ban would have been made according to Japanese Law.

To my knowledge Japan already has some strict censorship policies regarding violence, so they can most likely ban a game anytime they want.

Also, please use periods. They make reading much easier.
lol fine. im not even commenting on Japanese law cause i don't know it. however if you read the whole quote the first is about America being a hypocrite which would be pretty accurate.
I see what you're saying.

Now if a game was made about brutally slaughtering Mexicans for no reason, would people still say it is protected by the Constitution?

EDIT: For the record I am not calling for a ban of these games for a number of reasons. However, tighter regulation of this content would be good.
Well not exactly that but what about that game released by the Ku Klux Klan: Ethnic Cleansing. I mean...if they couldn't ban that...
I've never heard of this game (probably for obvious reasons).

Was this game actually sold legally?
I think it was over some racist record label. That game featured you killing Isreali Prime Minister Ariel Sharon as a final boss.
Interesting. Where was this game released anyways?
 

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Internet Kraken said:
TruthMan said:
Internet Kraken said:
TruthMan said:
sonidraw said:
Tenmar said:
You cannot be a proponent of free speech if you want things that you don't like banned especially if the content isn't in the country you live in or affects you.
You don't even know what free speech means.

Free speech does not mean the freedom to say or express anything you want in any medium you want without repercussions.

Free speech means the ability to say stuff and accept the consequences for what you say if it isn't taken well. If the consequences include criminal charges, you accept it and move on. That's free speech.
NO JUST NO free speech is NOT being punished for expressing yourself and your opinion im not even gonna comment on the rape thing but maybe you should look into the founding of America a little more in England anyone who spoke out against the king was killed according to your definition that is free speech take a history class
I don't think the American view on freedom of speech would apply here, as the ban would have been made according to Japanese Law.

To my knowledge Japan already has some strict censorship policies regarding violence, so they can most likely ban a game anytime they want.

Also, please use periods. They make reading much easier.
lol fine. im not even commenting on Japanese law cause i don't know it. however if you read the whole quote the first is about America being a hypocrite which would be pretty accurate.
I see what you're saying.

Now if a game was made about brutally slaughtering Mexicans for no reason, would people still say it is protected by the Constitution?

EDIT: For the record I am not calling for a ban of these games for a number of reasons. However, tighter regulation of this content would be good.
Not sure what the USA would say. The UK BBFC would probably object if violence, gore, and racism where its only qualities - to put that in context, only Manhunt 2 has been refused classification (i.e. banned in the UK) in over a decade - basically, very few games get banned or even modified over here. A game purely about rape and/or mass murdering mexicans for no good reason would probably be enough to earn a ban.
 

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This is a crime against humanity.

Why, Japan? Why? You're already a titan when it comes to the videogame industry, so why must you tarnish your reputation with acts such as this?

Why?
How would it tarnish their reputation? They have been making these games for a long time. I am guessing 90% of the people here bitching about how these games are bad, and a sin against humanity wouldn't have even HEARD of the damn games if they hadn't been shown on TheEscapist.