Razzie Awards Eyeing Transformers 3 for Nomination List

[Dr. Dan Challis]

There seem to be an awful lot of people who profess to have hated the first two Transformers films yet still went to see the third. I hope those people realize that they are just as responsible for the series financial success as those who enjoyed the films, and at least the latter group had a good time. Which really begs the question, why bother? I can understand holding out hope for the second film when you didn't like the first but by the time the third one rolls around, you should know what you're in for. Bay is nothing if not consistent.

Also, can we put the lame "Lucas/Bay/whomever raped my childhood" cliché to bed, permanently? If the most important thing about your childhood is that the sanctity of your memories of a serialized, twenty minute toy commercial are preserved, then your childhood was raped long before Bay got to it.

 

[Sniper Team 4]

I didn't think it was THAT bad. Aside from the fact that the new girl is worse than Megan Fox. And the Decepticons start shooting the only building with the humans in it for no reason. Oh, and the civilians are extremely stupid. Then there's the fact that it turned the entire second movie into a gaping plot hole...
Okay, maybe it was that bad. But still better than the second one.

 

[Double A]

Ooooh, I hope they win some!

I'm fairly sure the Transformers trilogy has to be one of the worst trilogies ever made, if not the worst.

It deserves those every one of those Razzie awards, the film was garbage.

It makes the Prequel Trilogy look like the Original Trilogy.

 

[sniddy_v1legacy]

They take giant robots

They blow shit up

They blow more shit up

Some small pathetic flesh bags jibber for a bit

More stuff gets blown up

Some eye candy struts about

.....Its a popcorn action movie

I expect nothing except loud explosions and the a fore mentioned shit being blown up

I have enjoyed the last 2 transformers movies, I will not jump on the bandwagon of hate - I have low expectations, Michael Bay delivers every time....and I enjoy what is delivered.

If you expect more or wanna jump on the bandwagon go ahead.

 

[BrotherRool]

The point was: people willingly pay to see shit (and make those two excuses), so shit keeps getting made, and so we have to have awards for total shit just to point out how dreadful it is.

And you shouldn't have to leave your brain at the door for any media. That is not an excuse. Thor is a simple, fun film. Its also well-made and doesn't require the audience to go full-retard to suck any sense of enjoyment from it. Same goes for Indiana Jones, Star Wars, etc. etc.

Also: seen the first, which was bad, seen about half of the second, which almost had me circumcising myself out of the need to do something less painful, and not seen the third because when it gets shit reviews and all the same people are involved from the last two shit fests, well... its pretty clear what its like.

I will phrase this better:

People see shit, and they enjoyed seeing this shit which is why they went on to watch a further two showings of this shit, each of which they probably left satisfied and so more shit is made for them to watch.

My question is, where do you even factor into this?

And so yes, as I suspected, your opinion of the third film is invalid. You have a good right to state your opinion of the first two films but no real right to tell people that the third is shit. Just that you didn't like the first two. You also made the correct decision not to see the third, it's just that decision clearly isn't correct for a lot of other people.

You haven't provided any sort of reason not to leave your brain at the door in a film, just that there are films where you don't. Which is no argument at all

 

[ItsAPaul]

Maybe you should actually see Green Lantern. It's good to any normal person, but critics have to hate it for some reason

 

[brinvixen]

I haven't seen many of this summer's blockbusters, but please don't count X-Men First Class into the collection of horrible ones. First Class was rather decent in many respects. Namely James McAvoy and Michael Fassbender, and the excellent chemistry between them. Extra props to Fassbender, who was not only an extremely effective Magneto, but looked so handsome doing it! =) (that last part was a digression, but I had to say it). The supporting cast did well too, Bacon (Shaw) and Lawrence (Mystique) to mention a few. Most of the effects were well done (the makeup for Beast could have been a little better) and the story went along nicely enough.

It was also like a return to previous X-Men glory. The last couple of X-Men movies were trash, Wolverine Origins especially, so this one came shining through like a beacon of hope. But I'm not the kind of person who says things like "this movie is better than the last movie, so it must count for something!" (which is why I won't see Dark Side of the Moon, because saying that its better than Revenge of the Fallen is not enough to make me shell out the cash), so in short, First Class is a good movie because its an actually well done movie. Even if you removed the X-Men aspect and it played out the same, I would have loved it. The acting was phenomenal, and it basically forgave all faults (the very few that there were) for me.

But that's just me geeking out to First Class. If the other movies were shit, then they were shit. No arguments there.

 

[Woodsey]

The point was: people willingly pay to see shit (and make those two excuses), so shit keeps getting made, and so we have to have awards for total shit just to point out how dreadful it is.

And you shouldn't have to leave your brain at the door for any media. That is not an excuse. Thor is a simple, fun film. Its also well-made and doesn't require the audience to go full-retard to suck any sense of enjoyment from it. Same goes for Indiana Jones, Star Wars, etc. etc.

Also: seen the first, which was bad, seen about half of the second, which almost had me circumcising myself out of the need to do something less painful, and not seen the third because when it gets shit reviews and all the same people are involved from the last two shit fests, well... its pretty clear what its like.

I will phrase this better:

People see shit, and they enjoyed seeing this shit which is why they went on to watch a further two showings of this shit, each of which they probably left satisfied and so more shit is made for them to watch.

My question is, where do you even factor into this?

And so yes, as I suspected, your opinion of the third film is invalid. You have a good right to state your opinion of the first two films but no real right to tell people that the third is shit. Just that you didn't like the first two. You also made the correct decision not to see the third, it's just that decision clearly isn't correct for a lot of other people.

You haven't provided any sort of reason not to leave your brain at the door in a film, just that there are films where you don't. Which is no argument at all

"My question is, where do you even factor into this? "

Because when the poorly made shit makes more than the well made shit, you get more of the former. I want to go and see films too. I want to enjoy big Summer blockbusters. I don't want them to be influenced by bad films.

"You haven't provided any sort of reason not to leave your brain at the door in a film, just that there are films where you don't. Which is no argument at all"

Similar to above, it promotes lazy/poor film-making. If everyone could get away with making a big release and then having everyone jump up and down at anyone calling it bad, and saying you should be leaving your brain at the door, then everyone would fucking try it. Like I said: I want good fucking films to watch. I want big, Summer blockbuster-y, good films to watch.

And yeah, I'm still counting the series as shit given the majority vote. The third would have had to have had Jesus touch every frame on the fucking reel to produce anything decent given the previous efforts.

 

[Fursnake]

Haven't seen the thrid movie yet, but the first two were terrible and deserve Razzies, lots of 'em.

Micheal Bay can choke on the Devastator's balls for tainting one of my favorite childhood cartoons.

 

[RJ Dalton]

http://freyad-dryden.deviantart.com/#/d3n0s0w
That's all I've got to say about Hollywood.

 

[BrotherRool]

"My question is, where do you even factor into this? "

Because when the poorly made shit makes more than the well made shit, you get more of the former. I want to go and see films too. I want to enjoy big Summer blockbusters. I don't want them to be influenced by bad films.

"You haven't provided any sort of reason not to leave your brain at the door in a film, just that there are films where you don't. Which is no argument at all"

Similar to above, it promotes lazy/poor film-making. If everyone could get away with making a big release and then having everyone jump up and down at anyone calling it bad, and saying you should be leaving your brain at the door, then everyone would fucking try it. Like I said: I want good fucking films to watch. I want big, Summer blockbuster-y, good films to watch.

And yeah, I'm still counting the series as shit given the majority vote. The third would have had to have had Jesus touch every frame on the fucking reel to produce anything decent given the previous efforts.

This is the trouble though! You don't have the majority vote, the third film has had 61 million people who love it (judging on $10 ticket sales) and you are taking the "majority" of maybe a couple of thousand of people on the internet.

And you don't factor into it, because more than one film can be made. 61 million people love transformers and films get made for them, the films you like attract a different (slightly smaller crowd) and you go and see those films and you make money on it. It's not even like the prequels where you could argue that the films sell hope. Transformers you know what you're going to get.

And lazy film making isn't a problem if the lazy films satisfy people more than the hard artsy films. And the way people choose to spend their money suggests that's the case

 

[General BrEeZy]

still need to see it!!! still wanna. still have faith for it.
cant wait.

 

[SilverKyo]

I'm honestly glad I'm past this phase in my life. 2 or 3 years ago, I could have written a 7 page rant on how absolute garbage Transformers is with some of the most graphic and mentally disturbing metaphors some of you would have ever read, but honestly, I've washed my hands of that behavior. I'm done trying to push my opinion off on others, and I'm tired of playing the asshole... even on the internet. I thought the first one was dull, but it had room for improvement that I had hoped some constructive criticism (from actual critics, not people on the internet) could have fixed some of the problems. It did not, I hated almost all aspects of the second one, and I decided not to see the third one. Simple as that, that is how I feel on the subject and I'm content to leave it at that.

I don't like the movies, so I didn't see them... that's it.

 

[Agayek]

Star Wars Prequels. Transformers isn't nearly as bad as those.

The Star Wars Prequels were better than the Transformers movies IMO. The Prequels were fairly solid movies with bad dialog and a terrible actor for the main character. If Anakin had actually had some decent lines and/or something vaguely resembling an emotional range, they would be decent movies. Not good by any means, but still fairly decent.

Transformers on the other hand was just awful in just about every way. The first movie wasn't terrible, I'd put it on par with the Star Wars prequels, but the second two were just god awful. First time I ever got up and walked out of a movie theatre.

 

[Saltyk]

They take giant robots

They blow shit up

They blow more shit up

Some small pathetic flesh bags jibber for a bit

More stuff gets blown up

Some eye candy struts about

.....Its a popcorn action movie

I expect nothing except loud explosions and the a fore mentioned shit being blown up

I have enjoyed the last 2 transformers movies, I will not jump on the bandwagon of hate - I have low expectations, Michael Bay delivers every time....and I enjoy what is delivered.

If you expect more or wanna jump on the bandwagon go ahead.

I pretty much agree with you. I didn't expect much. I didn't get much. The thing is, I didn't really like the second or third movies, but I didn't really dislike them. I'll fully admit to liking the first one, though.

Spoiler: I have four problems with the third one that kept me from really liking it rather than just being "meh".

1) When the Decepticons attacked Chicago, they just suddenly showed up. I felt it could have used 30 seconds showing the ships descending from the sky or rising out of the water to attack the city. As a result, it just seemed like the invasion force had been hovering within the city the whole time and the people were too polite to say anything (which we know is pure fiction). It seemed kinda lazy to me.

2) They focused on the humans and kind of forgot that the giant robots were even there. I have no problem with the human story being there, but they totally forgot the Autobots in that scene. It was implied that they were hopeless without the Autobots to help them, then we watch them run around a collapsing building without any help. Still it would have been okay except...

3) Next thing we know the Autobots have all been captured and will soon be executed. Um, say what? When did that happen? I don't even remember the Autobots fighting hardly at all. Suddenly, they have been captured. Really, my problem here is largely the same as the problem I had in 1. Something major happened, and we got little or no explanation of how it went down. We're just expected to accept it. It's just that Bumblebee is such a bad ass, that's its hard to accept that he was captured without losing an arm.

4) Starscream deserved better than the death he got. He basically died comically at the hands of a couple humans. Maybe he's not Megatron, but he deserved a better death than what he got. Maybe a one on one fight between him and Bumblebee?

I guess, my biggest problem is that the third act seemed pretty rushed. The movie went fine up until the third act and then it seemed like they got lazy or ran out of time.

They might have been rather petty issues, but they are mine, and they prevented me from really enjoying the movie. Long story short, if it weren't for those issues, I probably would have really liked it. I don't regret seeing it, but I don't plan to watch it again.

 

[NickCaligo42]

The Razzies are all about people crying for attention as loudly as humanly possible. There's nothing of value there, save for picking AAA movies. Whilst the razzies are for the worst of the worst and, damn, Green Lantern and Transformers are way better than some of the crap out there.

Yeah, but I don't think they get a hold of stuff like "Death Bed: The Bed that Eats" and "Manos: The Hands of Fate."

 

[Asuka Soryu]

I have to agree, nothing better than titties and explosions. It's just that the movies themselves are so damn bad.

...then you don't agree with me. I think the movies are good. They're mindless action flicks, they never claimed to be anything more, and they fulfill the criteria a sane person without a blind hate for anything Bay produces would judge them by.


I could understand it if they claimed to be deep, emotional stories and ended up mindless action flicks, but they don't.

They're bad, because they lack good humour, focus on the characters no one cares about, ignore the Transformer's for most of the movies, copy and paste the first movies plot and over-extend the fight scenes. I loved the big battle of Transformer's Dark of The Moon, but it was still flawed.

1: This is the big ass battle, Transformer's are dieing, even ones that aren't nobodies and here we are, focusing on soldiers, blonde girl and Shia the Beef instead of Tranformer's.

2: The Fight starts to drag when it goes on so long.

3: The movie up to the fight was a poor joke, with the annoying Shia The Beef taking up way to much space.

4: How the hell can the blonde girl walk through a war zone, fall through and out a building, crawl under things come out like nothing happened? Her hair wasn't even a mess.


The Transformer's movies are like, Explosions and action trying to be more then what it really is and failing.

 

[Asuka Soryu]

I tire of the excuse that it's a "popcorn" flick and I don't wanna think.

That's fine... but so what? That doesn't make these movies any less bad, and if you're gone to argue with that logic, then I'd argue, why Transformer's? There's plenty of movies out there that blow shit up and have plenty of action that don't ask you to think and they do it way better then Transformer's.

Terminator 2, 3, Commando, Rambo 2, and many more. Transformer's 3 trys to be a comedy, but it sucks.

It trys to be a drama, but who gives a damn what happens to Shia The Beef or his new sex obje-- I mean, girlfriend.

It trys to add tention by killing the Autobots, but you know already that they're not actually gone to kill them off.

It fails to be a faithful adaption of the 30 minute Toy Commerci--I mean, cartoon.

And how many Starscream fans can say they think his death was worthy of the character?

Also, I know it's a war, but why does Optimus come off as a psycho? "Give me your face"


God was the fight with The Fallen so anti-climactic.

STOP FOCUSING ON THE HUMANS IN A DAMN TRANSFORMER'S MOVIE! I came to see robots fighting eachother in a war, not Shia the Beef trys to get a job with hillarios results.

Sounds like a Fox Sitcom. ~.~


The Transformer's could've been a great popcorn flic, but the fact is, they're not. No matter what you argue, they're bad.

They're bad action flics trying to be more then what they are, but are held back by poor character design, stupid humour and the fact that they have to fit the Transformer's in this movie somehow.

Finally, I don't think it's wrong for you to like them, but I think it's wrong to call them good.

You can deffinately like these movies if you want, but stop trying to defend them. They're bad, get over it.

I like bad things and I'll admit they're bad.




Also, I just wish Optimus would trip while firing, the blast hits and blows up Shia's parents and Optimus lands on Shia and his slu--girlfriend, crushing them.

 

[DTWolfwood]

man thanks for reminding me about the movie. i need to catch it this weekend! XD

Hollywood has never made it a habit of releasing good movies often. you mite get 1-2 a year (im not even referring to the Oscar baits as i tend to dislike those as well) So for what its worth this isn't wholly unexpected.

just sit back relax and go with the flow. you'll be less stressed out if you stop expecting movies to be "good" and merely expect them to be "watchable". using your baser instincts to critique a movie just feels more liberating. Tired of thinking, already do too much of that at work!