Red Dead Redemption Upsets the Irish
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A pointless and trivial detail to complain about, since the stereotype has (oddly) been embraced as a humorous characterisation by both Irish traditionalists and popular media.
It's just I know loads of Irish who HATE the way the media paints a picture of drunken, molesting bombers and it's unfair to paint a picture of everyone with one brush it doesn't matter if you ARE Irish not all Irish think like that.Johnny Cain said:
True that, no media can please everyone at once.Lono Shrugged said:
It still seems a rather trivial detail to get up in arms about. The saddest thing is they'll probably have to modify future versions of the game. How's that going to affect playing the game online? Will they patch the apparantly offensive material out of the game?
For a start the newspaper hasn't played the game because they assume he's 'the' town drunk which for those that have played Red Dead Redemption know There are lots of drunks found in all the towns of the game.
Besides, The person who thinks Irish is the prime example of an Irishman will surly have his/her ass handed to them when trying to prove this theory in the real world. :L
Besides, The person who thinks Irish is the prime example of an Irishman will surly have his/her ass handed to them when trying to prove this theory in the real world. :L
I'm Irish, and I can care less what a video games company does.
P.S Irish is a fucking annoying charater
P.S Irish is a fucking annoying charater
The Herald newspaper is a RAG.
It's a bigoted tabloid. I haven't played the game myself, but come on. It's a western based game.
Westerns are ALL about the stereotypes.
I'm Irish and I get fucking weary of that stereotype as I personally drink very little, but at the same time, socialising with drinks is a big part of my society's cultural life and a big part of social interaction.
The thing that pisses me off about American and English perceptions is that they seem WAY MORE LIKELY to drink far too much and behave like absolute baboons. This is speaking from a few regrettable experiences. Some American students for example have absolutely no control of themselves.
Notice that I said "some", though. Some of the most fun nights I've had were quiet gatherings where most people there were students from the US and they were absolute pillars of responsible drinking.
I also don't think that anyone from England would be as stupid as the two buffoons I encountered. I know they were an extreme exception.
In all, I think that the article should have checked other Irish media for a broader view of Irish opinions on the game. Many of my friends are reall, really, looking forward to it. Once I'm done with Dragon Age I actually might give it a go myself... eventually... damn this long game!
I hate the drunken Irish stereotype, but I don't take it personally. Yes, I will bite your head off your shoulders if you try applying to me in a rude personal way.
However, if you're only joking, which most people are, then fine. I have many, many stereotypes I can throw back at you
Stereotypes will persist as long as people know of other tribes out there, but have little to no real contact with them.
It's a bigoted tabloid. I haven't played the game myself, but come on. It's a western based game.
Westerns are ALL about the stereotypes.
I'm Irish and I get fucking weary of that stereotype as I personally drink very little, but at the same time, socialising with drinks is a big part of my society's cultural life and a big part of social interaction.
The thing that pisses me off about American and English perceptions is that they seem WAY MORE LIKELY to drink far too much and behave like absolute baboons. This is speaking from a few regrettable experiences. Some American students for example have absolutely no control of themselves.
Notice that I said "some", though. Some of the most fun nights I've had were quiet gatherings where most people there were students from the US and they were absolute pillars of responsible drinking.
I also don't think that anyone from England would be as stupid as the two buffoons I encountered. I know they were an extreme exception.
In all, I think that the article should have checked other Irish media for a broader view of Irish opinions on the game. Many of my friends are reall, really, looking forward to it. Once I'm done with Dragon Age I actually might give it a go myself... eventually... damn this long game!
I hate the drunken Irish stereotype, but I don't take it personally. Yes, I will bite your head off your shoulders if you try applying to me in a rude personal way.
However, if you're only joking, which most people are, then fine. I have many, many stereotypes I can throw back at you
Stereotypes will persist as long as people know of other tribes out there, but have little to no real contact with them.
"adding that the character "sours the launch" for gamers with Irish heritage."
Only for hypocrites. Not one Irish person offended by this stereotype, would also be offended if they portrayed a British guy as a tea drinking, cricket playing, sexually ambiguous, monocled fop, or if there was an obnoxious, unwashed French onion salesman, who cowered at the sight of a water pistol. Why? Because if something """offensive""" isn't being aimed at their own ethnicity, people like this dumbbell at herald.ie, couldn't give a eff. Makes me sick.
Only for hypocrites. Not one Irish person offended by this stereotype, would also be offended if they portrayed a British guy as a tea drinking, cricket playing, sexually ambiguous, monocled fop, or if there was an obnoxious, unwashed French onion salesman, who cowered at the sight of a water pistol. Why? Because if something """offensive""" isn't being aimed at their own ethnicity, people like this dumbbell at herald.ie, couldn't give a eff. Makes me sick.
Umm all of the Irish people I know (albeit three different families) have outrageously quick tempers and love the sauce. Two even grow potatoes in their backyards!
Talk about challenging the stereotype.
Talk about challenging the stereotype.
When will people realize that using stereotypes in a videogame is just as much an expression of free speech as if someone had posted it anonymously? Unless the game is outright calling ethnic groups by well known slurs, for the sake of trying to be antagonizing, why do they have to pander to every group's complaint? When do we reach the point at which we decide "Fuck you, if you don't like it, don't play it." The game's developers didn't seem like they were specifically trying to insult all Irish people, merely a fictional character. Honestly, the public opinion's morals are way out of sync with the average person. If you asked someone if they were a bad person for trying marijuana in their youth, they would most likely say no, because it doesn't necessarily represent them now. However, Obama for example was criticized for having admitted to trying marijuana in his younger days, and that is just ridiculous. As a group, our morals are unbelievably more rigid than if you asked someone individually, and it goes too far in some cases, as in the OT.
Wow knew this was going to happen another attack on rockstar.
However not as offensive as half the comments posted in this topic saying all irish are drunks etc.
Im irish and i rarely drink and potatos yeah i worked on a farm which delt in it but that was a welsh farm.
However not as offensive as half the comments posted in this topic saying all irish are drunks etc.
Im irish and i rarely drink and potatos yeah i worked on a farm which delt in it but that was a welsh farm.
Sigh...Hearld.ie... The Hearld used to be a real newspaper...it hasn't been in a much loner time.
And for the record, you can't get Red Dead Redemption in the shops here for love nor money, so we obviously didn't care that much...or at all...
And for the record, you can't get Red Dead Redemption in the shops here for love nor money, so we obviously didn't care that much...or at all...
If anything, I thought that all mothers would be outraged by the fact that Irish says the word c*nt in the game.
Wow, where do you know these people
I am Irish, not the game character, but the Irish have a sense of humour, anyone who gets their backs up about this is basically the new Irish rich radical who basically is afraid of their child accepting the steriotype.
Begor bejaysus and all that
I am Irish, not the game character, but the Irish have a sense of humour, anyone who gets their backs up about this is basically the new Irish rich radical who basically is afraid of their child accepting the steriotype.
Begor bejaysus and all that