Report: Mass Effect Put on Indefinite Hold
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Wait. Are you reading our minds across the internet? When some of us say "Yea, it wasn't bad" you're saying we're... wrong somehow? Like my 120 hours was me secretly not liking the game?DemomanHusband said:
While I stand by that some opinions can be outright wrong, this one feels a bit dumb to me.
"I like this game"
"No, you're wrong because you don't understand yourself."
"....?????"
"Killed by a shitty fanbase."TheVampwizimp said:
People seeing that a game is rubbish and not buying it makes them shitty?
Does this mean I get to call people shitty for not buying enough copies of Mirror's Edge to make it a smash hit? I mean, I would have thought that would be a spitefully petty thing to say, but apparently it's the way to go.
I don't see how anyone could still have been holding out for something validating the IT to be implemented considering how the EC canonically disproves everything the IT suggests about the ending. After the EC, the only thing about the IT that has merit is the evidence that Shepard was in the process of being Indoctrinated throughout the trilogy...but much like that star that was being affected by dark energy in ME2: Shepard's possible Indoctrination was a story thread that was never developed.Ukomba said:
Granted: I agree that the studio had more to do with the game's reception than a toxic community, but that doesn't mean that you get to dictate what someone else considers to be a good game. If Vampwizimp thought the game was surprisingly good then - per Vampwizimp's tastes - it was good. You're welcome to disagree with that if you want, but there is nothing objective about personal tastes and preferences.DemomanHusband said:
Your comparison regarding calling the ocean dry doesn't work because water being wet is an objectively observable fact that isn't based on personal tastes/preferences. Whether or not an individual finds a game to be good and enjoyable - regardless of whatever objectively observable flaws it may have - is still an entirely subjective matter since it is based on personal tastes/preferences.
What a shock.....
Like for a moment, I was hoping that between TitanFall 2 and Battlefield 1 that EA was kinda beginning to learn something finally.
But NOPE, Gotta stick to that business model!
Like for a moment, I was hoping that between TitanFall 2 and Battlefield 1 that EA was kinda beginning to learn something finally.
But NOPE, Gotta stick to that business model!
How tragic that I got what I wanted out of MEA (A Female Turian Romance Option) and the rest of the game was so bad there will never be a 2nd & 3rd Andromeda.
I do like that they aren't trying to shove it down our throats. On the other hand, it's been 5 years since the last Mass Effect game came out before all this. I don't think renewed vigor will solve the problems that arose this time.Cold Shiny said:
But again, I think it's definitely an improvement over just shoving a sequel down our throats.
Agreed - at the end of the day though this all comes down to the money.The Enquirer said:
Whether or not the game was actually good is a related issue, though not necessarily the most important one (it's not like there's never been "bad" games that made loads of money).
If ME:A had shipped record numbers despite the quality concerns, we wouldn't be having this discussion. Work on the sequel would probably already be underway internally. Or if the game had been cheaper to make so that it was still successful despite lower sales numbers, same thing. High cost / "low" sales was always going to be a killer though.
All that said, I'll be surprised if this is the last we ever see of Mass Effect. For better or worse it's got brand recognition, and especially in today's day and age that's worth something. It's why we get endless reboots of everything from movies to games. At some point EA will decide it's time to trot the franchise out again because it's easier than coming up with another new original idea.
Things like this really are just cherries on top of the shitty cake that was Andromeda. I always enjoy getting free fuel for my smugness.MC1980 said:
RIP you once great franchise.
Man, I remember when Mass Effect was good and Bioware could actually write a story worth a damn. What happened to those good old times?
Ah well, at least all the other triple A games this year are fuckin' fantastic. Nier, Persona 5, Prey and probably some others i'm forgetting. BlazBlue Central Fiction managed to be the best fighting game i've played in my life and the character roster is completely unbalanced garbage! Really says something about the gameplay when I can play trash tier characters online and still have fun. I still giggle when Terumi pulls off the 8.7k damage cheese with just Overdrive'd chains from fullscreen into Exceed. Active Flow is the dumbest thing...
Ah well, at least all the other triple A games this year are fuckin' fantastic. Nier, Persona 5, Prey and probably some others i'm forgetting. BlazBlue Central Fiction managed to be the best fighting game i've played in my life and the character roster is completely unbalanced garbage! Really says something about the gameplay when I can play trash tier characters online and still have fun. I still giggle when Terumi pulls off the 8.7k damage cheese with just Overdrive'd chains from fullscreen into Exceed. Active Flow is the dumbest thing...
Assuming this wasn't sarcastic...I don't understand this mentality. Why are we brought up to learn from our mistakes and improve but once a big project fails the answer is to fire everyone?Silentpony said:
With that view it's amazing Zelda and Castlevania franchises survived beyond the second installments.
The Mass Effect universe has a lot to offer. I don't think one merely 'decent' installment should be enough to kill the franchise.
On hold? Well, you already have Bioware's new IP coming out, plus the next Dragon Age. All this announcement tells me is that the secondary studio that they used to develop Andromeda isn't going to be allowed to touch another game by themselves. Wasn't expecting another entry in the series for 5-6 years anyway given their pattern.
EA: Uh oh. We fucked up another one. Better hurry up and gut what's left of the development team before we inevitably shut the studio down entirely. Wonder why this keeps happening... Ah well, no time to be introspective. Gotta keep repeatedly making the same dumb mistakes we've been making for years to appease the voices in my head...
I enjoyed it. If other people didn't, that's fine. I'm not saying Mass Effect: Andromeda doesn't have problems, because it does.
Clearly, despite having been playing video games for over 20 years, I'm a terrible gamer, though, simply because I can look past the flaws and still enjoy the game.
Is it as good as the other Mass Effect games? No. Is it a bad game? I don't personally think so.
The news that it's been put on hold isn't all that surprising, though. Right now, the team (as it is) seems to be putting most of its effort into fixing the problems with Mass Effect: Andromeda. I'd rather they put any future plans on hold until they are done with this one than try to split their focus.
Also, since when is "moving people to different studios to work on other games in development" the same thing as "downsizing"? To me, downsizing would be letting people go, not simply moving them to where they are most needed.
I don't know, maybe I'm foolishly optimistic, but I find the reaction to the information to be a bit hasty.
Clearly, despite having been playing video games for over 20 years, I'm a terrible gamer, though, simply because I can look past the flaws and still enjoy the game.
Is it as good as the other Mass Effect games? No. Is it a bad game? I don't personally think so.
The news that it's been put on hold isn't all that surprising, though. Right now, the team (as it is) seems to be putting most of its effort into fixing the problems with Mass Effect: Andromeda. I'd rather they put any future plans on hold until they are done with this one than try to split their focus.
Also, since when is "moving people to different studios to work on other games in development" the same thing as "downsizing"? To me, downsizing would be letting people go, not simply moving them to where they are most needed.
I don't know, maybe I'm foolishly optimistic, but I find the reaction to the information to be a bit hasty.
I guess they would have to phrase it in that fashion to not scare away investors. Honestly, this awfully lawyerly phrasing doesn't inspire confidence in any real people, or so I'd think.
Ah well, Persona 5 exists so all is well.
Ah well, Persona 5 exists so all is well.
What school did you go to?! When I got the answer wrong on a test, I was marked wrong. When I failed a class, I failed. No one said "Oh, well at least you tried your best, and as we all know, in Calculus, its the thought that counts..."babinro said:
In the real world when you fail a project, you're fired. You don't still go on to the next grade or get a chance to repeat the class. You failed, you're fired.
Obviously there are some failures that justify firing. But in the real world, people often don't get fired just because they make a mistake - especially people and projects a company has made significant investments in that can be salvaged or put to future use. Even on a purely economic basis, it's usually cheaper to get the same person/team/whatever to learn from their mistake and do better next time than it is to burn everything to the ground and start over with new people you'll have to retrain from scratch.Silentpony said:
Arguing otherwise is arguing that companies don't like money... and that's not an argument you're likely to win
"lack of objective understanding of your own experience"DemomanHusband said:
Stop. PLEASE stop. You're making yourself look so bad.