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antipunt

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*flip table*

OK, that's it. I'm done trying to defend this game. Nice going UBI, as an American, I can no longer say "it's not anti-British, chill out". The UK-ers were right, and I'm done.

*flies off with a jetpack*
 

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I love every second of it. It is very much american. If you don't like it, don't watch it. This goes for every TV show/movie etc you run into.
 

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I have two more points to make (both of which I'm fairly certain I've mentioned on other threads on the subject of AC III). First, yeah, this was a 4th of July trailer, and it's reasonable that it's a bit one-sided. However, it seems I missed the trailer they released in connection to the queen's jubilee... Anyone got a link?[footnote]This is a sarcastic remark concerning their insistence of impartiality; don't waste your time on finding it, I made it up...[/footnote] Second: the marketing department of Ubisoft has created the most attention they could without going the Mass-Effect-there-might-be-sex-Good-God-way. It might all be deliberate. (Or at least I hope so; it's pretty much the one remaining hope I have that the story won't be The Patriot: the Game...)

Edit: man, a quick search on Youtube gave even more hits one this than I expected: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWRCsa1OO4k

Please, Ubisoft, you still have time to prove me wrong on everything but the annoying marketing-thing...
 

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To all those who say "It was released on the 4th. OF COURSE IT'S GOING TO BE OVER THE TOP PATRIOTISM." I will ask you this:

Which is more patriotic- Respecting your roots with accurate historical knowledge, seeking to educate people about the truth behind why your rebelled, or covering them up with what amounts to propaganda?

I guess you guys are okay with Sarah Palin's Paul Revere comment because "it's patriotic, so get over it", right? Screw historical accuracy! Screw educating your gaming consumerbase! Let's appeal to the lowest common denominator because apparently you guys will guzzle it whole!

Stuff like this:

thisbymaster said:
I love every second of it. It is very much american. If you don't like it, don't watch it. This goes for every TV show/movie etc you run into.
Should make you ashamed of yourselves.

Games can do so much more to educate about a key part in your country's history and by allowing this sort of pathetic 'patriotic' pandering to be deemed 'acceptable' you denigrate both yourself and the history it's supposed to be representing.

/Good day sir.
 
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I feel like this needs to be said, but in a way that gets people's attention. It's extremely relevant, and no one is acknowledging it.

[HEADING=3]You guys know Americans didn't make this game, right?[/HEADING]

If anything, blame the French for hating Britain. It makes WAY more sense anyway.
 
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thisbymaster said:
I love every second of it. It is very much american. If you don't like it, don't watch it. This goes for every TV show/movie etc you run into.
I would like to note that this guy does not get to decide what's "American" and what's not. As an American, I am BEGGING you not to take his word for it. I also find the "Country I'll never see" line ridiculous.
 

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I really don't take much surprise or offense at a trailer of game set in the American Revolution released on the 4th of July being pretty pro-American. The child's line did make me cringe but the rest seemed fine for their context.

I see about as much underhanded anti-British propaganda here as I saw anti-Christian propaganda in the older AC games. Which is to say, portraying them as the main bad guy, but probably gonna end up not all that simple.
 

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I personally don't mind a game in which Brits are killed in cool and stylish ways, I just know that some, very vocal Americans get a boner for patriotism and will most likely rub it in our faces for another 200 years.
 

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Frozen Donkey Wheel2 said:
I feel like this needs to be said, but in a way that gets people's attention. It's extremely relevant, and no one is acknowledging it.

[HEADING=3]You guys know Americans didn't make this game, right?[/HEADING]

If anything, blame the French for hating Britain. It makes WAY more sense anyway.
We're generally aware of it, but it doesn't change the target. It's gotten to the point where every time they open their f*cking mouths it's either "We aren't just going to be demonising one side, we're going to be even handed" or "F*ck the red-coats, Amurika F*CK YEAH!". It's really, REALLY hard to imagine the game will be anything other than a load of Colonists and Connor hanging around (personal favourite, him chilling with George Washington, because THAT'S likely from someone who wasn't fond of British or Natives) killing redcoats and creating America on the blood and bones of the evil empire.

And yet despite this jingositic, inaccurate plot of this we probably wouldn't be so pissed off if they wouldn't bald faced LIE about it. If they said "Yeah, we're doing the American War of Independence but it's all from one side" that'd be fine, it's the bullshit "We do it even handedly" that pisses everyone off. I mean, shit, I love AC but I'm really not sure I'm up for buying this, it's just relentless in the bullshit.
 

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Baresark said:
Haha, the comments in this thread are among the funniest I have seen. They released that trailer yesterday because it was Independence Day in America. People on the internet can be really really thick headed when it comes to Anti-American sentiment.

I don't know why people are having such a hard time dealing with this trailer. It's a game trailer. Last time I checked, this doesn't mimic real life in any form, nor does it advertise itself as a history lesson.
The Ass Creed games have always been pretty even handed in how they portray their characters and factions; those loosely based on real world counterparts anyway. This is why all the publicity for this game comes over badly, because even handed it is not.

I'm not overly bothered, I don't buy new Ubisoft games for my PC, but when I do eventually pick up my used console copy I'd like it to have a decent story; not be some American Patriot's fantasy wank off material.
My main problem with this assessment is that it's not uneven as far as we know. We don't know much of anything about how the game plays out, only that it's from the perspective of the colonists. We have not seen anything that depicts it unevenly. This ad was the closest, but it was clearly aimed at American audiences who were celebrating Independence Day. People are freaking out about this and using it as an excuse for wide spectrum anti-american sentiment, and it's just kind of pathetic that people are freaking over a game we don't know anything about. All the pictures of ingame footage have been mostly battlefields, and last time I checked, they didn't benefit anyone in particular. Also, to point out the obvious, this game is created by a French company. American's don't have any say at all the advertising routes the company takes.
 

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CardinalPiggles said:
I personally don't mind a game in which Brits are killed in cool and stylish ways, I just know that some, very vocal Americans get a boner for patriotism and will most likely rub it in our faces for another 200 years.
They got that from us -_- 1966 is a year which gets brought up nigh on every football game.
 

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Baresark said:
kurupt87 said:
Baresark said:
Haha, the comments in this thread are among the funniest I have seen. They released that trailer yesterday because it was Independence Day in America. People on the internet can be really really thick headed when it comes to Anti-American sentiment.

I don't know why people are having such a hard time dealing with this trailer. It's a game trailer. Last time I checked, this doesn't mimic real life in any form, nor does it advertise itself as a history lesson.
The Ass Creed games have always been pretty even handed in how they portray their characters and factions; those loosely based on real world counterparts anyway. This is why all the publicity for this game comes over badly, because even handed it is not.

I'm not overly bothered, I don't buy new Ubisoft games for my PC, but when I do eventually pick up my used console copy I'd like it to have a decent story; not be some American Patriot's fantasy wank off material.
My main problem with this assessment is that it's not uneven as far as we know. We don't know much of anything about how the game plays out, only that it's from the perspective of the colonists. We have not seen anything that depicts it unevenly. This ad was the closest, but it was clearly aimed at American audiences who were celebrating Independence Day. People are freaking out about this and using it as an excuse for wide spectrum anti-american sentiment, and it's just kind of pathetic that people are freaking over a game we don't know anything about. All the pictures of ingame footage have been mostly battlefields, and last time I checked, they didn't benefit anyone in particular. Also, to point out the obvious, this game is created by a French company. American's don't have any say at all the advertising routes the company takes.
Or to put it another way, in every released example of footage be it in game or cinematic has had the protagonist killing Redcoats and helping colonists. If we're basing our opinion on what we've seen, it's very f*cking uneven and it's getting harder and harder to take Ubisoft's word for it that it won't be.
 

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Karma168 said:
Nice to see they're going for a nice even balance between the two sides...

Seriously though wtf happened to the 'everyone is a shade of grey' that previous AC games used? All I got from that was "The British are c***s, lets kill them"

I knew ubisoft would buckle and make America the good guys, cant risk offending weak sensibilities in their biggest market, never mind creative integrity.
Don't forget that America as we know it did not exist as a nation yet, so really, it's pretty much British citizens rebelling against the Crown. Besides, I believe the original intent of the Revolution was to be treated as equal citizens of the Empire. Don't quote me on that though.
 

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Baresark said:
kurupt87 said:
Baresark said:
Haha, the comments in this thread are among the funniest I have seen. They released that trailer yesterday because it was Independence Day in America. People on the internet can be really really thick headed when it comes to Anti-American sentiment.

I don't know why people are having such a hard time dealing with this trailer. It's a game trailer. Last time I checked, this doesn't mimic real life in any form, nor does it advertise itself as a history lesson.
The Ass Creed games have always been pretty even handed in how they portray their characters and factions; those loosely based on real world counterparts anyway. This is why all the publicity for this game comes over badly, because even handed it is not.

I'm not overly bothered, I don't buy new Ubisoft games for my PC, but when I do eventually pick up my used console copy I'd like it to have a decent story; not be some American Patriot's fantasy wank off material.
My main problem with this assessment is that it's not uneven as far as we know. We don't know much of anything about how the game plays out, only that it's from the perspective of the colonists. We have not seen anything that depicts it unevenly. This ad was the closest, but it was clearly aimed at American audiences who were celebrating Independence Day. People are freaking out about this and using it as an excuse for wide spectrum anti-american sentiment, and it's just kind of pathetic that people are freaking over a game we don't know anything about. All the pictures of ingame footage have been mostly battlefields, and last time I checked, they didn't benefit anyone in particular. Also, to point out the obvious, this game is created by a French company. American's don't have any say at all the advertising routes the company takes.
As someone above pointed out, we didn't see an advert to commemorate the Her Majesty's Jubilee which came almost at the same time as the 4th of July. Do you not think that it would've provided a golden opportunity to show off their evenhandedness? Yet they didn't take it. Interesting, no?
 

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I did like the trailer, but I do hope they weren't lying when they said it will be more morally ambiguous rather than just America is the greatest.
 

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Badassassin said:
Yes, because if this ad campaign has shown anything, it's that British people can't possibly be phased by something so petty as this. Oh wait.
I'm not fussed about the British being 'bad' guys in the game, it's a AC game, everyone's a baddie.

My problem is that this looked like the first game that didn't pander to the 'USA is always good' stereotype in games. Name 1 AAA game where the USA are the villans - not an American citizen but the entire country. I couldn't think of one and google turned up empty.

Even if the game is balanced the fact that the marketing department thought that they had to make a trailer that pretty much sets the scene for the US to be the good guys says that they are more bothered about upsetting Americans than promoting a great game.

I'm still going to buy it as I love the series and want to see where it's going, I'm just disappointed that video game companies still feel that they have to make the US always be in the right just in case they upset Americans who would be pathetic enough to boycott over something so petty.
 

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I can definitely see why this trailer is so heavily biased since it came out on the Fourth of July. However (in general) if Ubi wants people to believe what they're saying about how it's going to be neutral then they need to show that via their marketing campaign not just say that it will be so. If it involves a twist in the plot then I'm ok with it. Either way I'm still going to be purchasing the game on Day One.
 

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CaptainMarvelous said:
CardinalPiggles said:
I personally don't mind a game in which Brits are killed in cool and stylish ways, I just know that some, very vocal Americans get a boner for patriotism and will most likely rub it in our faces for another 200 years.
They got that from us -_- 1966 is a year which gets brought up nigh on every football game.
Really? I never heard it brought up a single time during the Euro football tournament. In fact, I'd forgotten that even happened over the past few years.
 

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I agree with the many other commentors. This game seems to take an awful amount of sides. Yes, they have said how neutral the game will be, but so far all the trailers have been awfully littered with Red-Coat bodies. I am not taking sides myself, being scandinavian, but this doesn't look very 'neutral' to me.
 

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snagli said:
Now to hope there's an alternate ending in which the British win. Realism? History? Screw that.

DUDE! That would be the best ending ever. All this "Let's kill the Brits"-bullshit. All this rage. All the boners of overly patriotic Americans. Then, you spend the game killing the British, being all "THis is not racist 'cause I'm an indian, but USA WOOO", then the last scene, where suddenly, the Brits start fucking shit up.

Blam, Americans dead. Blam, Assasins done. End credits. Good night everybody!

The twist of a lifetime. I would send Ubisoft all my money, just as a thank-you.