Rise for This Live Action Assassin's Creed III Trailer

[RoBi3.0]

It's making it damn hard for me to like this game as a Brit. I mean it's saying we're the bad guys pretty damn clearly despite that being less than true ( http://www.cracked.com/article_18442_5-reasons-founding-fathers-were-kind-dicks.html ).

There's definitely some preposterous notion of black and white that's being enforced by this game. The past two Assassins Creed games weren't even remotely based on the conflict of the time and it had you assassinating people on both sides of the war.

I mean I know it's only a game but for a series that accurately represented the cities of the time to the point that it's instantly recognisable to people who've been there, it doesn't seem to care even remotely for an accurate portrayal of the war.

LOL you quoted a humor website, as if it were some kind of historical authority. I am not saying your are completely wrong, just pointing out that you should maybe actually try to prove your point.

 

[KrossBillNye]

When I refuse to learn the history of a country I will never see?

What a ridiculous, American attitude. I'm rooting for the British.

I feel like creating a meme for that.

"I refuse to learn the history of a country I will never see.

Makes a game about a country's historical revolution."

Spoiler: MEME!

Works for me since I am Canadian

regardless I am so looking forward to this game. I will just start killing whomever I want. Like I always do in every assassin's creed.

 

[1337mokro]

From watching this trailer I can only assume the actual events occurred something like this:

In the Second Era of Man. At the end of the seventh century a great shadow was cast over the Eastern American Coast. King George the Third had forged a dark and evil tax. A tax which would rule all taxes before it. Valiantly the Colonials refused education, exporting goods, demanded political representation and decided to rise up.

Sensing the rebellion against his rule the Dark lord gathered his armies in the East, across the deep seas he amassed his horde. He gathered the vilest of creatures and the most despicable of men to his cause. The Irish, The British, The Welsh, The Germans. All abominations of nature headed his call. Thus the Black Ships set sail. To bring death and destruction to America.


What is this? Seriously people? Come on. This is borderline fucking ridiculous. I get it it's a 4th of July advertisement, of course it's going to play to American patriotism to get them to buy the game. But this?

It's so bad it's almost good. No no scrap that. It's so bad it's almost like EA made it. If you told me this was an EA add I'd believe you.

The fact that Connor is mostly anti British wouldn't bother me so much, except when you pick up a history book and see the Cherokees, supporting Britain. Guess what our little Connor is? Yep, half Cherokee. If anything Connor would be siding with the British first, Americans second.

I will just continue being amused by Ubisofts marketing department wanking of the big old american patriot cock. I just hope that after all this pandering they just do a complete 180 in the game and we get to see Americans taking to the forums complaining about how the game gave a fair depiction of both sides rather than portraying the Americans as complete saints.

 

[kurupt87]

It's making it damn hard for me to like this game as a Brit. I mean it's saying we're the bad guys pretty damn clearly despite that being less than true ( http://www.cracked.com/article_18442_5-reasons-founding-fathers-were-kind-dicks.html ).

There's definitely some preposterous notion of black and white that's being enforced by this game. The past two Assassins Creed games weren't even remotely based on the conflict of the time and it had you assassinating people on both sides of the war.

I mean I know it's only a game but for a series that accurately represented the cities of the time to the point that it's instantly recognisable to people who've been there, it doesn't seem to care even remotely for an accurate portrayal of the war.

LOL you quoted a humor website, as if it were some kind of historical authority. I am not saying your are completely wrong, just pointing out that you should maybe actually try to prove your point.

You realise that The Daily Show is one of the more trusted "news" shows on air. That FOX News and MSNBC spin every story for their political side. And that the Discovery Channel puts on science fiction dressed up as documentaries.

American media is fucked up.

 

[DJjaffacake]

Oh dear God a trailer released on American Independence Day that's clearly advertising a game made in Canada by a French company to Americans is pandering to a romantic American view of the American Revolution. How unexpected! Remember when they advertised all those Christians and Chosen People of God you were going to kill in the first Assassin's Creed? No? Huh, me neither. Why didn't I hear all the Russians crying about Cally of Duty: Let's Kill Some Ruskies, or whatever. Get some thicker skin, Brits. Yes we know it sucks that having a tiny land mass means you can only be a ghost of the mighty empire you used to be, but I think it's time to get over it.

captcha: move along

It's not the fact that you kill British people, it's the fact that they're completely misrepresenting actual historical events. Almost no one in the UK got pissed about the bad guys being English in Killzone because it's completely made up.

And the idea that we don't like it because we don't have an empire anymore?

Spoiler: This is the only possible response to such a ridiculous notion

 

[kurupt87]

Secondly, I have a theory that the Colonist Templars are going to be a big part of the story line, so they can't show to much of them or else we'll get spoilers. So calm your shit, brit.

As for the American Templar plot, just watch me be right about that.

This is assumed, every other AC game has had the Templars playing two sides against each other for its own ends. We assume this game will be the same. Or we would if the marketing of it followed the marketing of the other games, that being the Assassin happily chopping his way through the grunts of both sides.

Hopefully it's just as @Woodsey has implied; that the marketing department is really worried about OTT American Patriotism. About them being unable to handle the reality that the founding of their country wasn't a black and white struggle of the just underdog against the evil empire. That they're bigging it up and only showing the Americans in a good light for the adverts.

Which, if true, is good for the game. It should also be pretty embarrassing for any American.

Edit: A terrible run on sentence got split up.

 

[RoBi3.0]

It's making it damn hard for me to like this game as a Brit. I mean it's saying we're the bad guys pretty damn clearly despite that being less than true ( http://www.cracked.com/article_18442_5-reasons-founding-fathers-were-kind-dicks.html ).

There's definitely some preposterous notion of black and white that's being enforced by this game. The past two Assassins Creed games weren't even remotely based on the conflict of the time and it had you assassinating people on both sides of the war.

I mean I know it's only a game but for a series that accurately represented the cities of the time to the point that it's instantly recognisable to people who've been there, it doesn't seem to care even remotely for an accurate portrayal of the war.

LOL you quoted a humor website, as if it were some kind of historical authority. I am not saying your are completely wrong, just pointing out that you should maybe actually try to prove your point.

You realise that The Daily Show is one of the more trusted "news" shows on air. That FOX News and MSNBC spin every story for their political side. And that the Discovery Channel puts on science fiction dressed up as documentaries.

American media is fucked up.

Yeah, hmm. I not really sure what to say to this. I don't have cable so I really can't comment on any of your impressions of those channels and shows.

Like I said I wasn't out right refuting his claim. Cracked could be 100% correct in this regard. I do know that is not always the case. Had Cracked bothered to cite sources or provide some kind of historical documentation I would not have even brought it up. Cracked didn't because their chief concern is getting readers to chuckle, not provide accurate historical commentary.

EDIT: went back over the article, as I like to double check my claims(rarely before I run my mouth off). The quoted article by Cracked did provide links to a few historical books. Obviously I haven't had time to go over them. Just thought I would point this out before someone else does.

I will also point out (even though I shouldn't have to) the extreme biased of the Cracked article to one particular point of view. That also doesn't make for accurate history.

 

[Farther than stars]

Now to hope there's an alternate ending in which the British win. Realism? History? Screw that.

That's certainly the attitude the trailer seems to take. I seem to remember that Revolutionary Army were more like brigands, ransacking and burning down quite a few farms in their conquest, more so than the British. But this trailer says they're the underdogs being oppressed by tyrants, so I guess that's the "real" version of events.

 

[kurupt87]

Yeah, hmm. I not really sure what to say to this. I don't have cable so I really can't comment on any of your impressions of those channels and shows.

Like I said I wasn't out right refuting his claim. Cracked could be 100% correct in this regard. I do know that is not always the case. Had Cracked bothered to cite sources or provide some kind of historical documentation I would not have even brought it up. Cracked didn't because their chief concern is getting readers to chuckle, not provide accurate historical commentary.

EDIT: went back over the article, as I like to double check my claims(rarely before I run my mouth off). The quoted article by Cracked did provide links to a few historical books. Obviously I haven't had time to go over them. Just thought I would point this out before someone else does.

I will also point out (even though I shouldn't have to) the extreme biased of the Cracked article to one particular point of view. That also doesn't make for accurate history.

My point was more in line with your original concession, that you shouldn't discount it just because it's made from a comedic point of view.

Though the article wasn't really biased, the point of it was to show that they weren't all saintly.

If I were to write a paper on how Hitler was a bit of a good guy, I wouldn't write about how bad he'd been I'd bring up the good things. I'd assume you already knew the bad stuff and am bringing up this other stuff to make you think about what was going on in his bonce.

The article is a "the more you know" type look, not an outright condemnation of being utterly evil. It assumes you know the good things already and doesn't seek to erase them, it just adds the less savoury bits that Nationalistic History glosses over.

 

[RoBi3.0]

Yeah, hmm. I not really sure what to say to this. I don't have cable so I really can't comment on any of your impressions of those channels and shows.

Like I said I wasn't out right refuting his claim. Cracked could be 100% correct in this regard. I do know that is not always the case. Had Cracked bothered to cite sources or provide some kind of historical documentation I would not have even brought it up. Cracked didn't because their chief concern is getting readers to chuckle, not provide accurate historical commentary.

EDIT: went back over the article, as I like to double check my claims(rarely before I run my mouth off). The quoted article by Cracked did provide links to a few historical books. Obviously I haven't had time to go over them. Just thought I would point this out before someone else does.

I will also point out (even though I shouldn't have to) the extreme biased of the Cracked article to one particular point of view. That also doesn't make for accurate history.

My point was more in line with your original concession, that you shouldn't discount it just because it's made from a comedic point of view.

Though the article wasn't really biased, the point of it was to show that they weren't all saintly.

If I were to write a paper on how Hitler was a bit of a good guy, I wouldn't write about how bad he'd been I'd bring up the good things. I'd assume you already knew the bad stuff and am bringing up this other stuff to make you think about what was going on in his bonce.

The article is a "the more you know" type look, not an outright condemnation of being utterly evil. It assumes you know the good things already and doesn't seek to erase them, it just adds the less savoury bits that Nationalistic History glosses over.

Meh, to each their own I guess. If I were to right a paper on Hitler I would endeavor to be as unbiased as possible and showcase his complete character rather then then a certain aspect. It is the same thing I would do when writing a historical piece on anything.

That being said I do see your point. The Cracked Article did point out a few books I will probably be reading at some point in the future.

 

[NewYork_Comedian]

I wonder how they will handle "The Boston Massacre" in the game. If they do it the way it is shown in Paul Revere's picture my blood will boil. That should be one of the shades-of-grey moments in the game but from the vibes I get from the trailers i doubt it will.

From what I remember in history class colonists were throwing rocks and one of the British soldier's guns went off by accident and then the rest started shooting.

So the person whose gun "went off" was a Templar. No way they'll skip that chance for a conspiracy.

What I meant was how the founding fathers took advantage of this and made propaganda out of it by calling it a massacre, that the British attacked for no reason when in reality the colonists started it.

 

[Ishigami]

"When I refuse to learn the history of a country I'll never see."

Ignorance is bliss I'll take it...

 

[Perryman93]

Well I won't be buying this blatant piece of anti-British propaganda..... Its not even subtle anymore, no matter what Ubisoft say....

 

[MasterOfHisOwnDomain]

Is there no way that the American Revolution can be celebrated for on its own terms, without slagging off the British ... ?

 

[silent-treatment]

Imagine the New York skyline with a massive gothic castle in the middle. 8)

God, I really wish game developers would jump of the realism thing and start making things up again because this would be effing sweet.

OT: I sighed a little when the commercial got going and I realized how skewed it was going to be. It is a panderfest and pointlessly so, the only demographic of gamers that would be completely taken in by this ad are already getting the patriot on playing COD. Seriously AssCreed fans wont be impressed by this, and it wont bring in as many new people as it will disenfranchise old long time British fans. This really makes no sense, and kind of remindes me of the Dead Space 2 ads *Shudders*

Though as a film student I did admire the commercial itself. It was well shot and well acted. Pretty cool stuff.

 

[ThatDarnCoyote]

the only demographic of gamers that would be completely taken in by this ad are already getting the patriot on playing COD.

CoD? The one where the Americans get killed in massive numbers, the bad guy behind it all turns out to be an American general, and it's the heroic Brits who save the day and kill the final baddie? That CoD?

 

[Daveman]

It's making it damn hard for me to like this game as a Brit. I mean it's saying we're the bad guys pretty damn clearly despite that being less than true ( http://www.cracked.com/article_18442_5-reasons-founding-fathers-were-kind-dicks.html ).

There's definitely some preposterous notion of black and white that's being enforced by this game. The past two Assassins Creed games weren't even remotely based on the conflict of the time and it had you assassinating people on both sides of the war.

I mean I know it's only a game but for a series that accurately represented the cities of the time to the point that it's instantly recognisable to people who've been there, it doesn't seem to care even remotely for an accurate portrayal of the war.

First of all, cracked is a comedy sight, and I never take anything on there for fact. Secondly, I have a theory that the Colonist Templars are going to be a big part of the story line, so they can't show to much of them or else we'll get spoilers. So calm your shit, brit.

Well that would be a good twist, but I doubt it.

Also I'm aware of Cracked being a comedy site, but they generally are right with overtones of hyperbole and they do tend to source fairly well.

You do your own research and site them, then maybe we can talk. As for the American Templar plot, just watch me be right about that.

I just remembered the article and thought it was of some significance. Also "sight" is to do with seeing, "site" is a place (potentially on the internet) and "cite" is to do with citations. I know that makes me sound like a twat but it was bugging me.

LOL you quoted a humor website, as if it were some kind of historical authority. I am not saying you are completely wrong, just pointing out that you should maybe actually try to prove your point.

I think the point could be argued much better by people who actually study history. It was only meant to be a humourous link that was vaguely related. Being English I studied English history at school, though I did admittedly learn a small amount about American history, most of which I've forgotten.

The main point of my post was just to say that I'm finding it hard to get myself invested in the plot of this game because it's been so staunchly anti-British in the advertising, almost comically so. There may be a twist where the Colonists are also evil but that's speculative at this point.

To be honest I'm now wondering if it takes the piss more out of Americans for them believing how absurdly noble the goals of all the colonists were, even down to the level of some kid not wanting to do his history homework.

 

[chiefohara]

From watching this trailer I can only assume the actual events occurred something like this:

In the Second Era of Man. At the end of the seventh century a great shadow was cast over the Eastern American Coast. King George the Third had forged a dark and evil tax. A tax which would rule all taxes before it. Valiantly the Colonials refused education, exporting goods, demanded political representation and decided to rise up.

Sensing the rebellion against his rule the Dark lord gathered his armies in the East, across the deep seas he amassed his horde. He gathered the vilest of creatures and the most despicable of men to his cause. The Irish, The British, The Welsh, The Germans. All abominations of nature headed his call. Thus the Black Ships set sail. To bring death and destruction to America.


What is this? Seriously people? Come on. This is borderline fucking ridiculous. I get it it's a 4th of July advertisement, of course it's going to play to American patriotism to get them to buy the game. But this?

It's so bad it's almost good. No no scrap that. It's so bad it's almost like EA made it. If you told me this was an EA add I'd believe you.

The fact that Connor is mostly anti British wouldn't bother me so much, except when you pick up a history book and see the Cherokees, supporting Britain. Guess what our little Connor is? Yep, half Cherokee. If anything Connor would be siding with the British first, Americans second.

I will just continue being amused by Ubisofts marketing department wanking of the big old american patriot cock. I just hope that after all this pandering they just do a complete 180 in the game and we get to see Americans taking to the forums complaining about how the game gave a fair depiction of both sides rather than portraying the Americans as complete saints.

I had

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAk0hEVGgMY

playing in the background when i started reading your post. I know it was a combination of a happy coincidence and your own wit, but i have to say you made my day! i haven't laughed that loud in a long time

 

[chiefohara]

Funny how the protagonist of an anti brit game has an Irish name

Think i might swap my hurley for a Tomahawk

 

[RoBi3.0]

It's making it damn hard for me to like this game as a Brit. I mean it's saying we're the bad guys pretty damn clearly despite that being less than true ( http://www.cracked.com/article_18442_5-reasons-founding-fathers-were-kind-dicks.html ).

There's definitely some preposterous notion of black and white that's being enforced by this game. The past two Assassins Creed games weren't even remotely based on the conflict of the time and it had you assassinating people on both sides of the war.

I mean I know it's only a game but for a series that accurately represented the cities of the time to the point that it's instantly recognisable to people who've been there, it doesn't seem to care even remotely for an accurate portrayal of the war.

First of all, cracked is a comedy sight, and I never take anything on there for fact. Secondly, I have a theory that the Colonist Templars are going to be a big part of the story line, so they can't show to much of them or else we'll get spoilers. So calm your shit, brit.

Well that would be a good twist, but I doubt it.

Also I'm aware of Cracked being a comedy site, but they generally are right with overtones of hyperbole and they do tend to source fairly well.

You do your own research and site them, then maybe we can talk. As for the American Templar plot, just watch me be right about that.

I just remembered the article and thought it was of some significance. Also "sight" is to do with seeing, "site" is a place (potentially on the internet) and "cite" is to do with citations. I know that makes me sound like a twat but it was bugging me.

LOL you quoted a humor website, as if it were some kind of historical authority. I am not saying you are completely wrong, just pointing out that you should maybe actually try to prove your point.

I think the point could be argued much better by people who actually study history. It was only meant to be a humourous link that was vaguely related. Being English I studied English history at school, though I did admittedly learn a small amount about American history, most of which I've forgotten.

The main point of my post was just to say that I'm finding it hard to get myself invested in the plot of this game because it's been so staunchly anti-British in the advertising, almost comically so. There may be a twist where the Colonists are also evil but that's speculative at this point.

To be honest I'm now wondering if it takes the piss more out of Americans for them believing how absurdly noble the goals of all the colonists were, even down to the level of some kid not wanting to do his history homework.

I was pretty annoyed by the kids comment. It almost feels like the whole trailer is making funny of America. Which I am fine with. We need to stop taking ourselves so seriously.