He said the sites hints of the game being in Europe makes no sense, not that setting it in Boston doesn't make any sense.Varitel said:
Rumor: Bethesda Teases Next Fallout With New Website - UPDATED
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hm...mention of Rockville Maryland suddenly makes me nostalgic for no reason whatsoever...not homesick at all, just nostalgic.
Anyway, Can't wait to see that sweet Fallout 4 reveal! I'm hoping for an entry taking place in New England to be honest...or a city on or close to the Canadian boarder like Seattle or, Vancouver (which shows my complete misunderstanding of where things are in relation to other things)
Anyway, Can't wait to see that sweet Fallout 4 reveal! I'm hoping for an entry taking place in New England to be honest...or a city on or close to the Canadian boarder like Seattle or, Vancouver (which shows my complete misunderstanding of where things are in relation to other things)
She, actually. But yes, that was my point.SajuukKhar said:
I am very much looking forward to a Boston/Cambridge game. Europe would just be a nonsensical letdown for me.
It's part of the unique design elements that sets helps differentiate Fallout from other examples post-apocalyptic works of fiction. Once you strip that veneer away you're quickly left with some very genre standard material. Also don't forget that you spend just as much time picking through the ruins and learning about the people who lived, worked and died there as you spend interacting with the inhabitants of the wasteland.SajuukKhar said:
But in all honesty, what's the one piece of technology that everyone associates with the Fallout franchise? Is it the ability to upgrade hunting rifles with a scope? The leather armour that has been cured from brahmin hide? Of course not. It's the Retro-Futurism styled Power Armour.SajuukKhar said:
Just as relevant is the fact that every single game to date has been about dealing with the restless skeletons that have been left unattended in the closet of a dead nation. The Master and his Super Mutant Army. The Enclave. Robert Edwin House. And even when the fauna and flora goes rogue and tries to eat you it's usually far more dangerous then it otherwise would be because of their exposure to the forced evolutionary virus.
The corpse of America is no more an interesting backdrop than the titular monster in a horror film.
I'm in the process of catching up with the Assassins Creed series. Only finished the first title recently. Nice to know that Rome is on the agenda.00slash00 said:
Actually, I don't know much about Fallout lore. I missed playing the originals back in the day and only started with Fallout 3. I know that China and the U.S. nuked the hell out of each other, but I have no idea how Europe plays into it all and what is actually going on there, as it isn't mentioned much in the games either. Maybe that's also a good reason to explore it in a new Fallout game.
You seem to know a bit about Fallout lore. Maybe you can explain to me how come there are Chinese rifles spread around all over the U.S?
As far as I know, the Chinese only invaded Alaska.
There are similarities, sure,but there are similarities to America in almost every country. But it's really quite a different place. Like, very different.Skeleon said:
I would like it to be in England, since it would just really work well, but part of me wants it in Australia as payback for Mad Max being set in America.
I'm not American, but fallout doesn't work anywhere but America. Maybe spinoffs, but the main Fallout storyline is a hyper parody of America/America in the fifties.
I can't describe how happy this makes me. Personally, I really wouldn't like seeing a Fallout game outside of America but I am interested to see what we've got to look forward to in terms of trailers, gameplay and all that jazz in the next few months.
I hope they bring Three Dog back. I liked Three Dog. Listen here, if you killed Three Dog.. Fuck you. You hear me? Fuck you.
That's why England would work... Post-war atmosphere bombed out London baby.SuperfastJellyfish said:
The American setting is based on 50s america and the attitudes raised surrounding fear of nuclear war.
A british setting could play on similar themes but play on the british reaction which was national pride/xenophobia.
Europe in general had a pretty rough time in it pre-50s (to understate it just a bit) so why shouldn't it be just as rich a thematic setting.
Yeah, I thought they implied pretty heavily that it would be in boston. And it makes sense, too, especially for a main game. As people have noted, Fallout is an quintessentially American series; 50's America is crucial to the settings and themes.
Not that I wouldn't mind an international spin-off, but I don't think that's what Bethesda is working on.
Not that I wouldn't mind an international spin-off, but I don't think that's what Bethesda is working on.
Trust me, if it's in Britain, we certainly won't get bowler hat supermutants.
Read: chavs
Lots and lots of chavs.
Read: chavs
Lots and lots of chavs.
There was a game set in the Midwest already, it spanned from Chicago all the way to Cheyenne Mountain in Colorado.RaNDM G said:
It was called Fallout: Tactics, and Bethesda considered it canon.
So then maybe a spinoff. Main game wouldn't work anywhere but America, and no one can really change my view on that. Nowhere in the world really has/had an attitude like America. Especially during the fifties, and as such, a main numbered title would fall flat and not feel like Fallout.Dascylus said:
Yeah, I don't know what role the rest of the world had in things. I would imagine they're be involved some way. I know the US annexed Canada so when China Nuked the US, they would have Nuked Canada as well. I don't recall hearing about Europe though. It definitely seems like its a part of the story worth exploring, China just seems like the next logical step, since they were they other key player in the war.Tiamat666 said:I'm in the process of catching up with the Assassins Creed series. Only finished the first title recently. Nice to know that Rome is on the agenda.00slash00 said:
Actually, I don't know much about Fallout lore. I missed playing the originals back in the day and only started with Fallout 3. I know that China and the U.S. nuked the hell out of each other, but I have no idea how Europe plays into it all and what is actually going on there, as it isn't mentioned much in the games either. Maybe that's also a good reason to explore it in a new Fallout game.
You seem to know a bit about Fallout lore. Maybe you can explain to me how come there are Chinese rifles spread around all over the U.S?
I'm not exactly a master of Fallout lore. Most of what I know I learned from playing Fallout 1 and 2, and that was about a decade ago. But to my knowledge, there were Chinese spies in D.C. and China also snuck Chinese weaponry in to America in order to equip communists and Chinese sleeper agents within the country
If Fallout was set anywhere else but America, expect massive changes, not just in geography, but the entire setting. FOr one, there are no Vaults in Europe, or Russia, or Australia, or whereever it could be set outside the US. They might have some bomb shelter system, but nothing like the Vaults, well except Russia, since their whole metro system was actually designed to act as a nuclear fallout shelter but we already have a post-apocalyptic game franchise for russia, so that one is out anyway.
So, Vaults are gone. FEV is gone, which means no supermutants or similarly mutated critters such as deathclaws. The thing about the mutated critters is that during the War several bombs hit West-Tek which released FEV into the atmosphere which sort of bonded with the radiation and settled on the surface, i.e. ridiculous mutations. Ghouls are unlikely since their creation requires a sudden, massive burst of radiation without the heat and pressure that a nuclear blast produces, given we lack vaults..unlikely.
Now onto the Setting. The war happened in 2077, not the 1950s. America was culturally stuck in the mindset of that timeperiod, they basicly never had their 60s, 70s or 90s. Hence why for example they have those oversized cars and those 50s fashion. That does not mean the rest of the world was similarly stuck. Say China, or Japan, or France could have had, culturally speaking, a highly advanced society, post-modern so to speak.
So to recap:
-No Vaults
-No FEV (Supermutants, Deathclaws, probably Ghouls)
-No 50s stuff
And thats just the changes which are fact at this point. Basicly no country other than the US would function like the US does if we would set the Fallout games there. The games would be so radically different that they may as well make it a new franchise entirely. Plus all your known factions are gone. All of them without exception. Because their existance is based upon very specific and precise circumstances that you cant just re-create elsewhere. Fallout: London would NOT be Fallout. It is that simple.
So, Vaults are gone. FEV is gone, which means no supermutants or similarly mutated critters such as deathclaws. The thing about the mutated critters is that during the War several bombs hit West-Tek which released FEV into the atmosphere which sort of bonded with the radiation and settled on the surface, i.e. ridiculous mutations. Ghouls are unlikely since their creation requires a sudden, massive burst of radiation without the heat and pressure that a nuclear blast produces, given we lack vaults..unlikely.
Now onto the Setting. The war happened in 2077, not the 1950s. America was culturally stuck in the mindset of that timeperiod, they basicly never had their 60s, 70s or 90s. Hence why for example they have those oversized cars and those 50s fashion. That does not mean the rest of the world was similarly stuck. Say China, or Japan, or France could have had, culturally speaking, a highly advanced society, post-modern so to speak.
So to recap:
-No Vaults
-No FEV (Supermutants, Deathclaws, probably Ghouls)
-No 50s stuff
And thats just the changes which are fact at this point. Basicly no country other than the US would function like the US does if we would set the Fallout games there. The games would be so radically different that they may as well make it a new franchise entirely. Plus all your known factions are gone. All of them without exception. Because their existance is based upon very specific and precise circumstances that you cant just re-create elsewhere. Fallout: London would NOT be Fallout. It is that simple.