Wait.....I totally agree with....Rush Limbaugh 
good god, the world really has gone totally crazy....
good god, the world really has gone totally crazy....
Rush Limbaugh Sticks Up for Video Games
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So this whole case is based off the whinings of whinging sexless mothers who are too stupid to look at the age ratings that are clearly shown on the boxes against big corporate entities that probably generate a lot of money for the u.s government via tax and whatnot...? yeah i think this is the one time where what would seem a real unfair fact of life will work in our favour. The only reason this has gone as far as it has is because arnie jumped on the bandwagon, though i think the defence will rip him apart if he makes any appearences predator, terminator, total recall . Common sence will prevail as always its never reached this far before but every other time we've beaten them before and if we beat them at the u.s supreme court we can beat them pretty much anywhere and will give us a very good example to use in future cases and if they find in favour of us it should to my understanding pretty much legitimise video games as an art. Personally I'm not worried and I think good times for the industry are on their way.
Edit: "We can't be consumed by our petty differences anymore.
We will be united in our common interests.
Perhaps its fate that today is the 2nd of November, and you will once again be fighting for our freedom, not from tyranny, oppression, or persecution -- but from annihilation.
We're fighting for our right to live, to exist.
And should we win the day, the 2nd of November will no longer be known as an average day, but as the day when the world of gamers declared in one voice:
"We will not go quietly into the night!
We will not vanish without a fight!
We're going to live on!
We're going to survive!"
Today, we celebrate our Independence Day!"
Edit: "We can't be consumed by our petty differences anymore.
We will be united in our common interests.
Perhaps its fate that today is the 2nd of November, and you will once again be fighting for our freedom, not from tyranny, oppression, or persecution -- but from annihilation.
We're fighting for our right to live, to exist.
And should we win the day, the 2nd of November will no longer be known as an average day, but as the day when the world of gamers declared in one voice:
"We will not go quietly into the night!
We will not vanish without a fight!
We're going to live on!
We're going to survive!"
Today, we celebrate our Independence Day!"
Left? Right? Who cares what side is on what. What I care about is freedom of speech. So does Rush. That's something we can get behind and have common ground. I mean really having actually listened to him he does make good points on a lot of issues.
No one R,D or Other has the right to regulate something the industry is already doing. I think we can call agree on that.
No one R,D or Other has the right to regulate something the industry is already doing. I think we can call agree on that.
I've never been a huge fan of Limbaugh, but when I heard what he was saying about games and the 1st amendment in general, people slowly backed away from me as I fist-pumped violently enough to dent steel. As a junior junior junior broadcaster and journalist and gamer, I'm anxiously awaiting the November 2nd decision.
Wholly unexpected but duly appreciated. When a right wing man can get behind this issue for the industry, there is hope for our country yet!
As someone that likes perspective, I've listened to him (even watched some of his tv show back in the day) and I'm not sure you can consider that news. Would you call the Daily Show news? He's like a right wing version of that, just without the funny writers. But if you do consider them news, Stewart and Colbert have come out at the defense of video games many times too.Shihoudani said:
I will say however that it is good to see there is at least one thing we're all in agreement on. It only took over 15 years to find it.
When it comes to censorship there are more than enough dbags on the left and the right trying to ruin everyone's fun that I don't think it is a politically tainted issue.
Interesting, but his position - or, rather, a broader context for why he may have arrived at said position - becomes much less surprising when you read the actual transcript: http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_102910/content/01125113.guest.html
Basically, he asks the caller how old they are, and when they say "21" Rush really gets into it. Sez Limbaugh: "Get on board, my buddy. If it's taken a video game to get you interested and have the light go off, to have you see what liberalism is all about, I'm glad to have you on our side, 'cause I agree with you." He goes on to "welcome" the caller to Conservatism, though the caller corrects him that they've been such all along.
So, at least in a sense, Limbaugh's interest in the matter (no, I'm not questioning his technical sincerity) is more that it's a good issue with which to win converts to The Movement. For a "liberal" version of this, see: my own state's Senator, John Kerry (remember him?), claiming to be "fascinated" by the "poetry" of hip-hop. Sure he is.
If this were a debate, as opposed to a friendly call with someone who's (apparently) already a fan, a logical followup would've been to ask him (Rush) his more specific opinion on, say, the Rapelay controversy, or games that openly espoused anti-right-wing messages ("Bioshock," essentially a tragedy about the practical failings of Objectivism) or "pagan" religious/moral messages. I imagine he'd ultimately arrive at the same conclusion, but a lot less "gleefully" and with more qualifiers and "yeah buts" - because he knows that's where he'd "lose" other big chunks of his listenership; which is overwhelmingly socially conservative (re: "The Religious Right") as well as economically so.
The "trick" to American politics is that because we're "behind" a lot of the civilized world in drawing a big thick line between "morality" and "policy" (i.e. one oughtn't have anything to do with the other) there are four "sides" to it (Politically/Economically-Conservative, Politically/Economically-Liberal, Socially-Traditional, Socially-Nontraditional) masquerading as only two ("Liberal" and "Conservative.") What's more, humans being human most people's actual "philosophy" doesn't fit neatly into ANY of them, because it boils down to "I'm for what helps me personally and against what doesn't." True master politicians (JFK, Reagan, Clinton, Obama at least as a campaigner) attain and hold power by convincing large groups that "what helps me" actually CAN be called one thing, and then BEING that one thing.
Basically, he asks the caller how old they are, and when they say "21" Rush really gets into it. Sez Limbaugh: "Get on board, my buddy. If it's taken a video game to get you interested and have the light go off, to have you see what liberalism is all about, I'm glad to have you on our side, 'cause I agree with you." He goes on to "welcome" the caller to Conservatism, though the caller corrects him that they've been such all along.
So, at least in a sense, Limbaugh's interest in the matter (no, I'm not questioning his technical sincerity) is more that it's a good issue with which to win converts to The Movement. For a "liberal" version of this, see: my own state's Senator, John Kerry (remember him?), claiming to be "fascinated" by the "poetry" of hip-hop. Sure he is.
If this were a debate, as opposed to a friendly call with someone who's (apparently) already a fan, a logical followup would've been to ask him (Rush) his more specific opinion on, say, the Rapelay controversy, or games that openly espoused anti-right-wing messages ("Bioshock," essentially a tragedy about the practical failings of Objectivism) or "pagan" religious/moral messages. I imagine he'd ultimately arrive at the same conclusion, but a lot less "gleefully" and with more qualifiers and "yeah buts" - because he knows that's where he'd "lose" other big chunks of his listenership; which is overwhelmingly socially conservative (re: "The Religious Right") as well as economically so.
The "trick" to American politics is that because we're "behind" a lot of the civilized world in drawing a big thick line between "morality" and "policy" (i.e. one oughtn't have anything to do with the other) there are four "sides" to it (Politically/Economically-Conservative, Politically/Economically-Liberal, Socially-Traditional, Socially-Nontraditional) masquerading as only two ("Liberal" and "Conservative.") What's more, humans being human most people's actual "philosophy" doesn't fit neatly into ANY of them, because it boils down to "I'm for what helps me personally and against what doesn't." True master politicians (JFK, Reagan, Clinton, Obama at least as a campaigner) attain and hold power by convincing large groups that "what helps me" actually CAN be called one thing, and then BEING that one thing.
"War makes strange bedfellows." It gets truer and truer as time goes on, and I appreciate the support.
I just want you to know Mr. Limbaugh... This changes nothing. You and your protege Mr. Beck can both go jump in a lake after this fight is over. At least now I know you know how to properly support a cause. You'll never be O'Reilly, get over it.
I just want you to know Mr. Limbaugh... This changes nothing. You and your protege Mr. Beck can both go jump in a lake after this fight is over. At least now I know you know how to properly support a cause. You'll never be O'Reilly, get over it.
It's the nanny-state liberals; the same people that think government has a right to regulate every facet of your life and tax 90% of your income to do it.Sneaklemming said:
That was the first thing I was thinking when I read the title... usually Limbaugh squaks some nonsense that makes Bill O'Riley seem sane when he does little more than pick out his enemies and chant "NO SPIN ZONE! NO SPIN ZONE!" like its some kind of game show.Covarr said:
I know you don't want to owe one to him (believe me, I don't either), but if you have to, I think we shoud just be glad we still our video games unrestricted. Although I still think we should have a restriction on letting 12 year olds play MW2WaywardHaymaker said:
Wasn't there a Democrat that told the press that the government can do whatever they want to their people? This was way back when we were trying to fight Obama's "brilliant" Health Care reform. the whole room was filed with boos and hisses.Zero=Interrupt said: