School shooting at Texas Elementary school, several children reported dead

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I watched a PBS News Hour episode, and there was a segment on how gun companies market their products.

Their advertising methods (Appealing to young men's masculinity) are VERY similar to how tobacco companies advertise cigarettes.
 

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Huh, if they win the lawsuit, that is one hell of a precedent.

But, meh, nobody cares about amendments other than the 2nd (and the 1st when it allows them to be awful), so good luck.
 
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I still don't understand suing gun manufacturers over mass shootings. Yes, the gun manufacturer made the gun, but they didn't sell it to the shooter and they didn't make them break the law. No one has ever sued Toyota because a drunk driver crashed into them, why is this any different?

And if they're going to go as far as suing the gun manufacturer why aren't they suing the ammo manufacturer as well, and the ATF for passing his background check, and the agency running NICS?
 

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And not a tear was shed.
Firing isn't good enough.

Frankly if police agencies want to have military weapons and larp being soldiers there should be laws in place about dereliction of duty, just like in the military and shit like this should carry prison time.
 

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I still don't understand suing gun manufacturers over mass shootings. Yes, the gun manufacturer made the gun, but they didn't sell it to the shooter and they didn't make them break the law.
While there some truth to that, they do nothing to help with control, and make things worse. Not to mention, the gun lobbyist and politicians are in bed with each other, stopping gun laws, or only making tiny laws or restriction that don't do anything. Plus, the parents are going after cops too; especially them. They can more than afford to lose a few billions here and there.
 

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I still don't understand suing gun manufacturers over mass shootings. Yes, the gun manufacturer made the gun, but they didn't sell it to the shooter and they didn't make them break the law. No one has ever sued Toyota because a drunk driver crashed into them, why is this any different?

And if they're going to go as far as suing the gun manufacturer why aren't they suing the ammo manufacturer as well, and the ATF for passing his background check, and the agency running NICS?
Ah, but gun manufacturers do aggressively lobby to ensure any and all safety regulations/restrictions never get off the starting line. And they may not have sold it to the shooter, but they did lobby to stop background checks, and to make sure the shooter could obtain it and carry it wherever he wanted.

The difference between this and car manufacturers is that car manufacturers occasionally do actually show some interest in avoiding death, and put money into that. Gun manufacturers do the opposite.
 
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Firing isn't good enough.

Frankly if police agencies want to have military weapons and larp being soldiers there should be laws in place about dereliction of duty, just like in the military and shit like this should carry prison time.
Im pretty sure if there was a mass shooting on a military base, and the security teams in full kit waiting over an hour while the officers' children bleed to death, there would be a lot more harsh punishment than simple dereliction of duty.
 

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Uvalde police chief Pete Arredondo got fired

Ok, I approve of the decision, but I'm a bit confused. Why does a school district board have the authority to fire police?
 

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The US is weird and Texas was made by people who didn't think it was weird enough
 
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In Miami, it's the other way around, the police department has it's own school. Not a police school, a school for kids.
 

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