Sega Unveils Episodic Sonic the Hedgehog 4

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coxafloppin said:
Denmarkian said:
BUT IT'S NOT 2D, IT'S STILL IN FUCKING 3D

It didn't work for Sonic Rush, it's not going to work here.

Give me back my goddamn sprites, Sonic Team!
The graphics are 3D, the game play is 2D.

Like Super Smash Bros.
But that's what was all fucking cocked-up about Sonic Rush, the 3D engine somehow demanded a physics engine to work with, and that completely ruined the fun of running at hyper-speed toward the right-hand side of the screen.

I would assume the same error will be put into Sonic 4, what with seeing Sonic's movement in the trailer and the spin of the end-level emblem shows that Sonic Team no longer understands that the fun about Sonic the Hedgehog is moving FAST.

Sonic does not do well in 3D no matter what the movement restrictions are. Didn't work in Sonic 3D Blast, didn't work in Sonic Adventure, didn't work in Sonic & The Secret Rings, didn't work in Sonic Rush, didn't work in Sonic: Chronicles of the Dark Brotherhood, didn't work in Sonic Unleashed, and undoubtedly will not work in Sonic 4.
 

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Each level from Sonic the Hedgehog 4 Episode I is separately selectable from the main menu, making it easy for players to replay their favorite sections as they wish. Long time fans will not be disappointed as they rejoin the action and face all new intense boss battles against everyone?s favourite villain ? the ever devious and evil ? Dr. Eggman!
That's from the SEGA Blog. His name is still Eggman. Sorry folks.
 

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Darkstar370 said:
When will you guys finally realize that Eggman was ALWAYS his original name.
Well, yeah, but Eggman really sounds more like an Nickname that would somone give him. Dr. Robotnik sounds atleast more sinister.

Denmarkian said:
Sonic Team no longer understands that the fun about Sonic the Hedgehog is moving FAST.
What the fuck are you talking about? Please take a look at this and tell me if you notice something.

 

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Darkstar370 said:
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One thing remains certain: As long as they call him Dr. Robotnik and can this "Eggman" crap, we'll be good.
I cannot agree with this strongly enough.
I 2nd this


When will you guys finally realize that Eggman was ALWAYS his original name.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Ivo_Robotnik
when will you finally use google and look this stuff up. Eggmann is an alias.

you lose
thats from the second game by the way
 

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Yay! There going back to an old 2D platformer!

I must my friend, hes going to jump with glee.
They never really left, there are two great 2D Sonic games on the DS...

Anyways, like I said in the user's topic. Dimps (Developer of Sonic Advance games and Sonic Rush games on DS) is where Sonic's future is really at. Sonic Team is what is killing him slowly.
 

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ZeroDotZero said:
Each level from Sonic the Hedgehog 4 Episode I is separately selectable from the main menu, making it easy for players to replay their favorite sections as they wish. Long time fans will not be disappointed as they rejoin the action and face all new intense boss battles against everyone?s favourite villain ? the ever devious and evil ? Dr. Eggman!
That's from the SEGA Blog. His name is still Eggman. Sorry folks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Ivo_Robotnik
eggman isn't his name. Its an alias
 

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Dr. Wily III said:
Darkstar370 said:
When will you guys finally realize that Eggman was ALWAYS his original name.
Well, yeah, but Eggman really sounds more like an Nickname that would somone give him. Dr. Robotnik sounds atleast more sinister.
Since Sonic Adventure his full name is Doctor Ivo "Eggman" Robotnik. SEGA did it to please both groups, but they forgot that the Sonic fanbase will never be pleased with anything.
 

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JWAN said:
Darkstar370 said:
JWAN said:
UltimatheChosen said:
John Funk said:
One thing remains certain: As long as they call him Dr. Robotnik and can this "Eggman" crap, we'll be good.
I cannot agree with this strongly enough.
I 2nd this


When will you guys finally realize that Eggman was ALWAYS his original name.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Ivo_Robotnik
when will you finally use google and look this stuff up. Eggmann is an alias.

you lose
thats from the second game by the way

HAHAHA, OH WOW.

YOU realy don't know that Eggman was his ORIGINAL name in JAPAN since the FIRST game?
http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Doctor_Eggman#Naming_Variations
 

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Darkstar370 said:
JWAN said:
Darkstar370 said:
JWAN said:
UltimatheChosen said:
John Funk said:
One thing remains certain: As long as they call him Dr. Robotnik and can this "Eggman" crap, we'll be good.
I cannot agree with this strongly enough.
I 2nd this


When will you guys finally realize that Eggman was ALWAYS his original name.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Ivo_Robotnik
when will you finally use google and look this stuff up. Eggmann is an alias.

you lose
thats from the second game by the way

HAHAHA, OH WOW.

YOU realy don't know that Eggman was his ORIGINAL name in JAPAN?
I dont give a shit about Japan, Robotnik was his name in the U.S. Eggman isnt his real name anyway read the article. Eggman is an alias meaning not his real name
 

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JWAN said:
I dont give a shit about Japan, Robotnik was his name in the U.S. Eggman isnt his real name anyway read the article. Eggman is an alias meaning not his real name
It's only a nickname since Sonic Adventure. Before that it was his real name.

Read this and learn.
http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Doctor_Eggman#Naming_Variations
 

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Darkstar370 said:
JWAN said:
I dont give a shit about Japan, Robotnik was his name in the U.S. Eggman isnt his real name anyway read the article. Eggman is an alias meaning not his real name
It's only a nickname since Sonic Adventure. Before that it was his real name.

Read this and learn.
http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Doctor_Eggman#Naming_Variations
Doctor Eggman[1] (ドクター・エッグマン, Dokutā Egguman?), also known by his real name, Doctor Ivo Robotnik[2] (ドクター・ロボトニック, Dokutā Robotonikku?), is the main antagonist of the Sonic the Hedgehog series, a comically obese scientist with an IQ of 300, and the de facto archenemy of Sonic the Hedgehog.

Ok this is what I learned. It says his real name, in bold is robotnick
what more do you need
 

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So....Basically Sega teams response too "the current sonic games are crap" is "lets copy the only good sonic games."

....Thats forward thinking there sonic team!

I dont usually use XBLA, And I dont think ill be playing this episode. I just have a feeling deep down that sonic team will mess it all up.
 

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JWAN said:
Darkstar370 said:
JWAN said:
I dont give a shit about Japan, Robotnik was his name in the U.S. Eggman isnt his real name anyway read the article. Eggman is an alias meaning not his real name
It's only a nickname since Sonic Adventure. Before that it was his real name.

Read this and learn.
http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Doctor_Eggman#Naming_Variations
Doctor Eggman[1] (ドクター・エッグマン, Dokutā Egguman?), also known by his real name, Doctor Ivo Robotnik[2] (ドクター・ロボトニック, Dokutā Robotonikku?), is the main antagonist of the Sonic the Hedgehog series, a comically obese scientist with an IQ of 300, and the de facto archenemy of Sonic the Hedgehog.

Ok this is what I learned. It says his real name, in bold is robotnick
what more do you need
"Although the character was known as Dr. Eggman in Japan since the original Sonic the Hedgehog..."
 

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Why call it Sonic 4 and and disgrace the good old games with that, when it looks like the fucking hold down forward forever till bored games we get since Advance 2?

I will never ever have hope for a new good Sonic..
Why not actually head over to SEGA's blog and read some information on the game before you judge it from a tiny clip designed just to give us a visual teaser of the first zone? How do <10 seconds of not even gameplay footage possibly demonstrate that you just "hold down forward forever till bored"? SEGA have already stated that gameplay will be a return to the more exploratory style of the originals, and that speed will be momentum based and 'a reward for playing well'. This is in fact the opposite of just holding down forward.

The only complaint I've heard that seems in any way valid is that Sonic's leg animation just looks like he's jogging because his legs don't spin. Personally I'm not bothered about that, and it's still a daft thing to assume from a small clip of the animation. After all, Sonic's legs don't spin in the animation they show from Sonic 1, and we all know they did in the game.

I've also heard people complain that Sonic's eyes are green. Newsflash, they were green in Sonic 3 (on his sprite, not the title screen). People really do just want to find something to complain about. I've heard "deal with it, it's crap" about things before, but this time it's more a case of "deal with it, it might actually be good".

Oh, and for the record, people slagging off Sonic Team is irrelevant. The team developing this are not Sonic Team, they are a group of people who love the original games as much as we do trying to make the game that both they and we want, so how about we all cut them a little slack until we see something a bit more conclusive. They've listened to the fans so far, so perhaps it's time to give them the benefit of the doubt for a change.
 

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Darkstar370 said:
JWAN said:
Darkstar370 said:
JWAN said:
I dont give a shit about Japan, Robotnik was his name in the U.S. Eggman isnt his real name anyway read the article. Eggman is an alias meaning not his real name
It's only a nickname since Sonic Adventure. Before that it was his real name.

Read this and learn.
http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Doctor_Eggman#Naming_Variations
Doctor Eggman[1] (&#12489;&#12463;&#12479;&#12540;&#12539;&#12456;&#12483;&#12464;&#12510;&#12531;, Dokut&#257; Egguman?), also known by his real name, Doctor Ivo Robotnik[2] (&#12489;&#12463;&#12479;&#12540;&#12539;&#12525;&#12508;&#12488;&#12491;&#12483;&#12463;, Dokut&#257; Robotonikku?), is the main antagonist of the Sonic the Hedgehog series, a comically obese scientist with an IQ of 300, and the de facto archenemy of Sonic the Hedgehog.

Ok this is what I learned. It says his real name, in bold is robotnick
what more do you need
"Although the character was known as Dr. Eggman in Japan since the original Sonic the Hedgehog..."

Are you so dense?
Im arguing his real name. If the article you sent me says that his real name is robotnik then I agree with the article.

Dont do personal attacks.
 

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JWAN said:
Darkstar370 said:
JWAN said:
Darkstar370 said:
JWAN said:
I dont give a shit about Japan, Robotnik was his name in the U.S. Eggman isnt his real name anyway read the article. Eggman is an alias meaning not his real name
It's only a nickname since Sonic Adventure. Before that it was his real name.

Read this and learn.
http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Doctor_Eggman#Naming_Variations
Doctor Eggman[1] (&#12489;&#12463;&#12479;&#12540;&#12539;&#12456;&#12483;&#12464;&#12510;&#12531;, Dokut&#257; Egguman?), also known by his real name, Doctor Ivo Robotnik[2] (&#12489;&#12463;&#12479;&#12540;&#12539;&#12525;&#12508;&#12488;&#12491;&#12483;&#12463;, Dokut&#257; Robotonikku?), is the main antagonist of the Sonic the Hedgehog series, a comically obese scientist with an IQ of 300, and the de facto archenemy of Sonic the Hedgehog.

Ok this is what I learned. It says his real name, in bold is robotnick
what more do you need
"Although the character was known as Dr. Eggman in Japan since the original Sonic the Hedgehog..."

Are you so dense?
Im arguing his real name. If the article you sent me says that his real name is robotnik then I agree with the article.
The problem is that you still didn't read the part explaining the naming variations.
He was called Eggman since the first game. They only changed it in the US for retarded reasons. Then Sega finally woke up and started to call him Eggman in the US too. But to please the both camps they combined them.

http://info.sonicretro.org/Eggman#Miscellaneous
 

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Darkstar370 said:
JWAN said:
Darkstar370 said:
JWAN said:
Darkstar370 said:
JWAN said:
I dont give a shit about Japan, Robotnik was his name in the U.S. Eggman isnt his real name anyway read the article. Eggman is an alias meaning not his real name
It's only a nickname since Sonic Adventure. Before that it was his real name.

Read this and learn.
http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Doctor_Eggman#Naming_Variations
Doctor Eggman[1] (&#12489;&#12463;&#12479;&#12540;&#12539;&#12456;&#12483;&#12464;&#12510;&#12531;, Dokut&#257; Egguman?), also known by his real name, Doctor Ivo Robotnik[2] (&#12489;&#12463;&#12479;&#12540;&#12539;&#12525;&#12508;&#12488;&#12491;&#12483;&#12463;, Dokut&#257; Robotonikku?), is the main antagonist of the Sonic the Hedgehog series, a comically obese scientist with an IQ of 300, and the de facto archenemy of Sonic the Hedgehog.

Ok this is what I learned. It says his real name, in bold is robotnick
what more do you need
"Although the character was known as Dr. Eggman in Japan since the original Sonic the Hedgehog..."

Are you so dense?
Im arguing his real name. If the article you sent me says that his real name is robotnik then I agree with the article.
The problem is that you still didn't read the part explaining the naming variations.
He was called Eggman since the first game. They only changed it in the US for retarded reasons. Then Sega finally woke up and started to call him Eggman in the US too. But to please the both camps they mixed them.

http://info.sonicretro.org/Eggman#Miscellaneous
they started calling him eggman in the US only after we learned his name as robotnik

and as a US player he originated as Robotnik. And the wiki source and ypour source said his REAL NAME was Robotnik.
end of story
 

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JWAN said:
they started calling him eggman in the US only after we learned his name as robotnik

and as a US player he originated as Robotnik. And the wiki source and ypour source said his REAL NAME was Robotnik.
end of story
/facepalm
Will you please finally read the part talking about the naming variation?