No this is America WE HAVE GUNS. This is sad I mean this is the best you can get? So she pays her taxes, has no major/minor investigations, shit scare the old people say video games!Azuaron said:Wait wait wait... this is Maine. Aren't statements like, "That means I stab things... a lot," basically street (forest?) cred?
Well, shooting and possibly even stabbing moose and other forest creatures is common, but killing people is usually frowned upon here just like anywhere else.Azuaron said:Wait wait wait... this is Maine. Aren't statements like, "That means I stab things... a lot," basically street (forest?) cred?
We're going to do this? Really? Okay then, here's the simple version:Gearhead mk2 said:The second is that press release from the Republican Party of Texas saying they want to take america back to the 50's in terms of gay and non-white rights, that science is just a theory and creationsim is the truth, that it shouldbe illegal for coporations to face any kind of ecological or economical regulations, etc etc. The first is that such a stupid and backwards party is one of the big two in the USA, where anywhere else it would be barely even counted as a party.
Sorry man, wasn't trying to get into a big debate. And for the record, I'm not even American. I'm British. In fact, I live in Brighton, which is bassically the LGBT capital of Europe. Anyway, while I disagree with basically everything the right wing stands for, I got nothing against a right-wing party running for a position. Competion is good. What I got against the American Republican party is that they're so freaking dumb! If an intelligent right-wing party was as poplar as them, I'd still dislike them because of my views, but I'd at least admire them. Take a look at the English Conservative party: they're bassically doing financial class war. They're like, evil geniuses, and while I hate them for being such assholes, I gotta admit they're pretty cunning. I'm just trying to wrap my head around why so many smart people support a party as stupid as the American Republicans, when their are probably a fair few intelligent right-wing parties out there.Falterfire said:snip
The reason why there are intelligent people who support the Republican party is usually because of a belief in the economic plans and ideals of the Republican party, not really the social aspect. Plus the other issue with two parties is that once a party takes a position, the other party automatically becomes the place for supporters of the opposite position. So even if we'd like to shift focus to economics, the retards who are still 'lulgayzsuck' will attach to the Republican party because the Democratic party supported gay rights first.Gearhead mk2 said:Sorry man, wasn't trying to get into a big debate. And for the record, I'm not even American. I'm British. In fact, I live in Brighton, which is bassically the LGBT capital of Europe. Anyway, while I disagree with basically everything the right wing stands for, I got nothing against a right-wing party running for a position. Competion is good. What I got against the American Republican party is that they're so freaking dumb! If an intelligent right-wing party was as poplar as them, I'd still dislike them because of my views, but I'd at least admire them. Take a look at the English Conservative party: they're bassically doing financial class war. They're like, evil geniuses, and while I hate them for being such assholes, I gotta admit they're pretty cunning. I'm just trying to wrap my head around why so many smart people support a party as stupid as the American Republicans, when their are probably a fair few intelligent right-wing parties out there.
Indeed.DonTsetsi said:In some countries it's illegal to slander your opponents. There, you must actually advertise yourself, not accuse others.
Well, there is. Just stop voting in idiots. Keep Obama in for another term or two, he's at least trying to sort stuff out. As far as I can tell, the only reason he hasn't fixed everything allready is because of all the bloody companies and right-wing military types getting in his way.Falterfire said:The reason why there are intelligent people who support the Republican party is usually because of a belief in the economic plans and ideals of the Republican party, not really the social aspect. Plus the other issue with two parties is that once a party takes a position, the other party automatically becomes the place for supporters of the opposite position. So even if we'd like to shift focus to economics, the retards who are still 'lulgayzsuck' will attach to the Republican party because the Democratic party supported gay rights first.
Honestly, I'd like to see gay marriage legalized. That's the only way the issue can resolve anyways. But I'd like much more for us to get something resembling a coherent economic plan going, and if that means having to also draw support from people who oppose gay marriage, then that's what I'm going to have to do. (Feel free to criticize my priorities here. As I am not gay, gay rights obviously rank lower on my personal priority list than they could)
That's really the center of the problem with a two party system obviously: I'm stuck in a position where I have to pick a party even though both of them say a number of things I really really don't agree with. The political system is definitely broken, but that doesn't mean all the people are stupid. It just means we're at a point where there's no easy fix to the increasingly terrible quagmire that is American politics.
Except he's doing some stuff right, but definitely not all of it. There's a large number of economists (Who I personally agree with, you may not) who believe that the strategies being pursued by Obama will not fix our issues and will in fact make them worse. Obviously his economists believe the opposite. (There's a bitter rift in economics between classical economists and Keynsian economists)Gearhead mk2 said:Well, there is. Just stop voting in idiots. Keep Obama in for another term or two, he's at least trying to sort stuff out. As far as I can tell, the only reason he hasn't fixed everything allready is because of all the bloody companies and right-wing military types getting in his way.
Agreed.Falterfire said:In order to avoid pushing this any further off topic I will conclude with the following: Both parties have large enough flaws to ensure that there are a large percentage of intelligent people willing to support and help fund each side.
I just wanted to tell you, you're awesome.DVS BSTrD said:No taxes, self employed/sustained and half the races are trying to kill you no matter what?
I think we all know exactly who's fantasy world that is!