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MalevolentJim

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Is it just me or was this thread just made to bash Hip Hop and Metal?
Get the hell over yourselves guys.It's all music.No matter how bad/disgusting/putrid/awful you find a song/band/type of music,some one on the planet is going to like it,and class it as music.
 

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mrpenguinismyhomeboy said:
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Julianking93 said:
People seem to confuse that chinese torture device known as Lady Gaga as real music.
I am one of those.

One thing that annoys me is what people consider country music these days. Just cause your lead singer has a western accent doesn't make you a country band. Your not a country band unless you have a banjo! And Taylor Swift is not country either.
Hey now, country music is about real people and real emotions feelings.
But it's not country if it doesn't have a banjo!
Na now that's not true. But country music should have one of the following if not a combination: Steel Guitar, Fiddle, and maybe Banjo.
 

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Gardenclaw said:
That the songs from Glee are original. Unfortunately i do know people who seem to know so little about music they didn't realise Jump from glee was a Van Halen cover... Oh it makes my blood boil. Glee? Absolute fucking dispair more like.
This is a common misconception? I mean "Don't Stop Believing" is a pretty ubiquitous song and has been for a while. And they did "Gold Digger", that song isn't old enough for people to think the Glee version was original.

This show is a true guilty pleasure for me. I would never tell anyone I actually know that I watch it.
 

ThrobbingEgo

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I like it when people with little to no experience within a genre decide to judge that genre based on one or two songs they may not have immediately liked.

Just because you don't "get" something that doesn't make it bad. I don't like a lot of dance music, but I wouln't say it's all worthless. (I fucking love Daft Punk's Discovery album.)
 

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A massive misconception about music that seems to be all the rage these days it that is not humanly possible to be able to appreciate all forms of music(or even just more than one).

Yet another is that elimination of another genre would improve the surviving music scene.
For example, if Country Music vanished from the airwaves and the internet tomorrow that Classical Orchestra music would dominate CMT, ignoring the inevitability that people would just invent a new genre to take its place following its demise, one that speaks to its audience in a similar manner yet without any of its traditions as baggage while Orchestra remains the province of movie and videogame soundtracks.
 

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One of my mates used to try to tell me that Fallout Boy aren't emo. I had a good chuckle at that one.
 

Lexodus

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SextusMaximus said:
**There is a thread like this that I found, but it's solely based on GAMING, not music - other than that Search bar approved**

So I was browsing through the Metal section on iTunes, hoping to find a band that can quench my musical thirst... and came to find that advertised among the top "Metal" albums, was Nickelback's "Silver side up", and perhaps I'm being picky, but Nickelback are at the MOST pop/rock...

Or am I associating them too much with Rockstar?

Anyway... What Musical Misconceptions have you found and what did you do about them? respond with a nasty message? share your story!
Actually, Nickelback do dabble in metal occasionally. As much hard rock as metal, to be honest, but it's still there.
 

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Julianking93 said:
People seem to confuse that chinese torture device known as Lady Gaga as real music.
Yeah, that's down right scary o_O

I have also taken notice of that my Windows PC labels Scar Symmetry, a Melodeath band, as a Pop metal band. o_O
 

Lexodus

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DustyDrB said:
Gardenclaw said:
That the songs from Glee are original. Unfortunately i do know people who seem to know so little about music they didn't realise Jump from glee was a Van Halen cover... Oh it makes my blood boil. Glee? Absolute fucking dispair more like.
This is a common misconception? I mean "Don't Stop Believing" is a pretty ubiquitous song and has been for a while. And they did "Gold Digger", that song isn't old enough for people to think the Glee version was original.

This show is a true guilty pleasure for me. I would never tell anyone I actually know that I watch it.
Gleetards, out yourself!

It's a great show, but there is no excuse for people thinking that the songs are original (until they write the episode where they *do* use original songs).
 

lumpenprole

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People thinking that throwing a distortion on the guitar and singing about how girls don't like you is punk rock.

What did I do about it? I started a band.
 

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CuddlyCombine said:
Mozared said:
In before the whining elitisism...
Not to flame, but you realized you fulfilled that role before you could type out the disclaimer, right? "People who have opinions on this aren't qualified. I have a definitive opinion on that fact."
I know. The thing is that the main difference between me and the people I am ranting about is that I'm ranting to stop all the ranting. Rather than trying to show how awesome I am and how much I know about my awesome music of [insertgenre]. Do I think I have more credibility than those people? Yes, but that's another case all together.

That said, in response to an earlier quote of my post; No, I don't think anything is 'wrong' with Dream Theatre. I just used the bands name because it seems to be the epitome of the "metal elitist" stereotype I'm ranting about.

Also, thanks to AgentNein for clearing up the whole punk-point. That one was slightly enlightening for me as well.
 
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Poomanchu745 said:
mrpenguinismyhomeboy said:
Hopeless Bastard said:
mrpenguinismyhomeboy said:
Julianking93 said:
People seem to confuse that chinese torture device known as Lady Gaga as real music.
I am one of those.

One thing that annoys me is what people consider country music these days. Just cause your lead singer has a western accent doesn't make you a country band. Your not a country band unless you have a banjo! And Taylor Swift is not country either.
Hey now, country music is about real people and real emotions feelings.
But it's not country if it doesn't have a banjo!
Na now that's not true. But country music should have one of the following if not a combination: Steel Guitar, Fiddle, and maybe Banjo.
It should have a fiddle. That is also a must.
 

ThrobbingEgo

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Vet2501 said:
One of my mates used to try to tell me that Fallout Boy aren't emo. I had a good chuckle at that one.
Emo's, what, post-punk with confessional lyrics and a few goth aesthetics? Oh noes.
 

Gildan Bladeborn

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PayJ567 said:
Why do you think I mentioned bands like Iron Maiden... Clearly I am not "concluding that Black Metal, Death Metal, and all the shitty metal/death/whatever-core" I was stating that said genre's are terrible. I accept that there may be good metal bands out ther today but I don't care to find them as I grew out of metal and into different genre's.
The message I took away from your original post was "Metal was cool back in the early heydey and now all of it is crap", where "all of it" means enough that finding decent bands is the exception, rather than the rule (like how rap is now and will be for the forseeable future barring a radical shift in the culture). The subtext to that subtext is the suggestion that most of those 'exceptions' would just be bands that have been around since 'metal was actually good' and therefore 'don't count'.

Which is flat out wrong - music like Maiden's never stopped being made [small](the music press snidely refers to Europe's Power Metal revival as if Europe had ever actually stopped making Power Metal)[/small] and remains popular throughout those parts of the world that are not America or Great Britain. The angry noise? You have to look significantly harder for that, because in what is already an underground genre, that's the underground.

It's highly ironic that Metal's least commercial sub-genres somehow became the 'face' of the genre as a whole, and now lead to the far more prevalent good bands getting dismissed as outliers in a sea of noisy crap, when really it's the precise opposite - the parts we both think are terrible just get all the attention because they're so much easier to mock.

I can certainly forgive non-metal fans here on the Escapist from falsely concluding the 'extreme metal' sub-genres constitute the bulk of metal though, since 90% of what people here talk about is that stuff - but that's mostly because people over the age of 20 are a decided minority in these parts.
 

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That there are many who think themselves musically informed, but when you ask them who Rush is, they say "Never even heard of them"

I mean c'mon! IT'S RUSH!
 

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D Bones said:
electro rock and electronica are different. electro rock = mgmt, beach house, the killers. electronica = daft punk, lcd soundsystem, mstrkrft
I've never heard anyone "electro-rock" before. Is that synonymous for synth-rock?
 

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Lexodus said:
DustyDrB said:
Gardenclaw said:
That the songs from Glee are original. Unfortunately i do know people who seem to know so little about music they didn't realise Jump from glee was a Van Halen cover... Oh it makes my blood boil. Glee? Absolute fucking dispair more like.
This is a common misconception? I mean "Don't Stop Believing" is a pretty ubiquitous song and has been for a while. And they did "Gold Digger", that song isn't old enough for people to think the Glee version was original.

This show is a true guilty pleasure for me. I would never tell anyone I actually know that I watch it.
Gleetards, out yourself!

It's a great show, but there is no excuse for people thinking that the songs are original (until they write the episode where they *do* use original songs).
Maybe it's not a that common misconception then, but was the first one that came to mind as it's been mentioned recently as i've been discussing/arguing/battling with mates about it. Credit to you for admitting you like the show, I probably like things which you would find annoying and shite too but at least you have the courage to defend it... Right i'm going back to hide in my cave with my Kyuss albums :D.
 

ThrobbingEgo

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Gardenclaw said:
That the songs from Glee are original. Unfortunately i do know people who seem to know so little about music they didn't realise Jump from glee was a Van Halen cover... Oh it makes my blood boil. Glee? Absolute fucking dispair more like.
I can do you one better. My roommate last year thought Rock Lobster was from Family Guy.

The show that's, like, 99% referential humor.
 

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MaxMees said:
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Also, Rap =/= music. Rap = Crap
Now THERE is a common misconception. What are you basing this on?
I'm basing it on all the rap that I've heard on the radio.

"Sex sex sex. Curse words. Sex sex sex. Violence. Sex sex sex. Racial Slurs. Sex sex sex. Insults to women. Sex sex sex. Continual treatment of women as obejects."

I'm not a big fan of that, thanks. Don't get me wrong, that exists in Rock n' Roll, Metal, Punk, whatever else peopel listen too as well. I'm just saying that that's all I get out of a rap song.

Side note: Hip-Hop and Rap are not the same thing.
That's gangster rap, I don't like to believe it exists.
Alright, if that's Gangster rap, then what is 'good' rap? Can you show me some examples? (I looked at the others. That's hip-hop.)