Sexual Predators (mature topic)

[DanielDeFig]

I would hire him based on his excellent resume. People can change, and his criminal past has nothing to do with his new job. People should have the right to get a job based purely on their professional merits, not including unrelated past events.

On the other hand, if he has a personality that i simply can't stand (possibly related to criminal past), then i wouldn't hire him. But that would be because i'd know we wouldn't be able to work well together if we constantly kept clashing (not good for business or either of our healths).

 

[Lord_Nemesis]

Depends on the person hiring. Professionalism or personal morales. Personally, I would hire him. It's a shity world and most of us become shity to survive. Dog-eatdog as they say. I am one of those people. I don't believe in providing aid to Africa or helping them grow, sending a certain super power's armed forces to take out a certain warlord in a certain African country and to what affect. Friendlies dead, locals dead and finally warlord taken out, few months later another one pops up. Pointless and watsed blood spilled.

Anyway, back to the question: Yes, I would hire him. I'm not hiring him to look after children or be a saint. I am hiring him to work as a tech dude, which he can do, very well. I look after me and my own. Couldn't give a fuck about anyone else, he comes after my kids, he dies, other than that, it's the other kids parents problem.

 

[Tiscolfo]

never ever ever, Hell i dont care if the guy is qualified and just convicted I have a problem with rapists, very lowly and crap in the head, I would believe in the death penalty for it if wasnt for people shouting rape when It didnt actually happen. but with children Im pretty sure he did it unless there was another guy with his sperm sample

 

[The Stonker]

Why not? There are loads of people that are framed for sexual assault.
So why not?

 

[gibboss28]

You are now given a choice, you may not ask any questions to Joe regarding his past. You must choose if you hire him on the spot, or if you don't hire him at all. Do you hire him?

If I'm unable to ask questions, and added to the fact I don't know all the details, added to the fact the the guys been arrested for sexually assaulting a child and everyone's been notified about this...

Then my answer is no.

Its all well and good giving the benefit of the doubt if your looking at this from the point of view of a person.

But from a business point of view? There is no way this could do anything but harm your business and in turn your livelihood.

And then there's also this:

And have my premises fire-bombed? No thanks.

 

[Kroxile]

Everyone deserves a second chance. I'd hire him as long as he does his job satisfactorily.

People's personal lives have no place in the workplace and if what they do in their own time gets them in trouble it isn't my problem.

 

[Israirie]

Seeing as the job has nothing to do with children and everyone makes mistakes in their lives, I'd hire him. Whatever untold damage that he has caused the child will not be repaired through vengeance and spite. He is far more likely to return to this kind of behavior if he is ousted by the community and feels he will never be thought of as anything other than a child molester.

And frankly, it's not our job to continue to punish criminals after they have fairly served their sentences.

 

[FamoFunk]

No way. People like "Joe" make me sick.

I cannot help but look at it throught the eyes of a Mother.

Even if I wasn't a Mum, I'd still say no, it would certainaly effect business, too.

 

[Bernzz]

His past as a sexual predator, even if it were true, doesn't matter to me. He sounds like an amazing employee, so he's fucking hired.

 

[Dooly95]

My opinion is my own. Regardless of what I think of Joe, I and my store accordingly, will be under public scrutiny once this Joe guy steps into my store. If from next week Joe starts coming and going from 9 to 5, then whispers will spread throughout the neighbourhood.

Yes, the guy might have been falsely accused (which, I believe, you can appeal for anyway), the guy might not have anything to do with it, there might be other factors, but the bottom line is, I'm an owner of a business that deals with the local community daily. Most people don't look at a person like Joe and think he deserves another chance, most think he didn't stay in prison long enough. The fact of the matter is, hiring Joe will get me and my business attention, most of which I don't want. So, no.

 

[Kungfu_Teddybear]

I would, I believe everyone deserves a second chance and one black mark in his history isn't enough to judge him. I would hire him but for a time I would continue to keep an eye on him to see how he acts.

 

[RobCoxxy]

I'd ask him if it would get in the way of work, but other than that, I'd hire him.

I don't know any of the circumstances. When the time came, I'd probably ask him about it if he was comfortable with talking.

"No, Joe, I told you to fix the computer, then bring it to the front. Not boot it up and IM 13 year old girls."

 

[Sexy Street]

Someone would eventually hire him, and if he is this good I might as well get one of the best I have seen in a while. If his past behavior becomes a problem again, then I shall fire him. It's as simple as that.

 

[Sexy Street]

I'd say no just for the nature of the crime. He was sentenced, he's guilty. That and the fact his working at my store might damage business.

Not everyone who was sentenced to a crime is actually guilty. There are an amazing amount of people who have been convicted of Sexual Assault to Murder that haven't actually done it. Even if he was a sexual offender, he could be charged with something such as having sex with a 17 year old two months away from being 18. Now, yes, having this man in your store may hurt business, but I'm sure truly loyal customers are not going to stop going to your store because of that.
EDIT: Shit, double post.

 

[Maze1125]

Either way, he is being predatory and a danger to children.

Wow are you really missing my point so utterly completely?

Yes, he's being a danger to children either way, but only in one way could you hiring him have even the slightest effect. The other (far more likely) way, all you're doing is funding a child predator.

And get real; the sick fuck won't be able to afford a flight to Asia on minimum wage.

Lol, economy flights are pretty cheap and, if you have a goal in mind, it's pretty easy to have enough self control to save most of your money for the sake of the goal.

Sure, if he has someone else to make his house payments, doesn't have a car, doesn't use the internet or go to moviesor buy clothes/electronics/anything else and is maybe on food stamps. At which point one would hope that being a sick shitstain on the ass of society, would be the last thing on his mind.

You can hope all you want. You're still giving money to someone who might well use it to get into a position to rape a child.

Also being a pedo, he's not likely to make any rational decisions.

That's one hell of a weird assumption. His goals and ideals are obviously messed up, but why does that automatically mean he can't make rational decisions in his attempt to fulfil those goals?

 

[BlackWidower]

Certainly, why would I care? Of course the concern is: will he break his parole. That's not my problem, that's his.

Of course people will say: He's a paedophile, he doesn't deserve work. Well I say: shut the fuck up. Anyone deserves to contribute to society, and the man is well experienced. So as long as he doesn't re-offend, there is no big deal. Besides, as far as I know, he had sex with an 18 year old. It's stupid and illegal, but even if it was a 12 year old, that doesn't mean he's going to assault any kids that come into the store. End your presumptions, people. Also, he's not in sales, but in the back room doing repairs. So interaction with the public would be minimal.

In summary, here's my view on paedophilia: I'm fine if you're a paedophile. Just don't actually assault any kids. This is the same reason I'm for animated child porn. You know, the kind where a child was never actually abused at any point in it's production.

 

[Baradiel]

I'd hire him.

 

[Snake Plissken]

Not a chance in hell. Let's switch it up and say that he applied for a job as the local elementary school janitor...anybody still want to hire him? Just because he's well qualified doesn't mean it's a good idea.

On top of it just being generally creepy and weird, there is an entire liability issue of me actually allowing him to work at my place of business. If anything ever happened there surrounding him, I would probably be held partially responsible (even if not legally, still publicly).

 

[Roggen Bread]

Nope.

Word would get around that I hired a sex offender. That's like an endorsement and me saying that my business and I approve of sexual predators.

Joe isn't the issue. It's the public. And since the public is generally a giant mass of ignorant morons, I'd lose tons of business, and my business would likely be forced to close. Then I'd have no job, and probably lose my home.

Joe isn't worth all that.

have to agree, unfourtunatelly.

although I am bad at saying no. and logic actually dictates hiring him.

that is, if I am looking for additional personell.

Also: no visits at customers until I can be sure he wont f*ck around (in both ways )

 

[Leg End]

Yes. Hired then and there. His past has no meaning as to whether or not he can fix what needs fixin. He served his time. Though, I'll look into the details later.

If a customer comes in and doesn't like it, then they can kindly get the hell out of my fucking store, because they are probably not going to be a very nice customer.

Everyone deserves a second chance. And, if it is a case of "Statutory Rape", then I have no ill, because that charge is bullshit.

Though, if I find out he had sex with say... a 7 year old girl, well... it had better been consensual, not full on rape.

If rape, I'm not going to like him much at first. But, if the alleged victim forgives him, no hard feelings in my book.

[sub]Many shall disagree with me. inb4 "what do you mean consensual?"[/sub]

Seriously, have you ever met an actual 7 year old? There's no way they have anything like the maturity level to consent, and claiming so is a common justification child abusers use for their crimes (not saying that you would).

I have a 7 year old sister and I can tell you now that if anyone had sex with her, supposedly "consensual" or not, I'm not exaggerating when I say they'd be lucky to still be alive by the time I'd finished with them.

OT: Knowing that someone had done that, I just couldn't employ them. I'm all for second chances but I couldn't stand to work in the presence of a child abuser...

Actually, many seven year olds actually do have such maturity. Hell, I know a 5 year old with more maturity than one of my 35 year old friends. Yes, he indeed needs to stop making dick jokes.

I personally cannot blame you, as I would probably do similar under the same circumstances. Though, it would involve just decking him/her so hard it would shatter their jaw then CQCing them to the ground. Or ripping their testicles/ovaries out through their mouth. Whichever seems more viable at the time.

OT: But, we don't know if it is actual child abuse or "she's turning 18 in 5 minutes! Book him". Though, if it was a genuine case of molestation then... once again, I'm not going to like the guy but, if the victim forgives, I forget.

Though, considering who I am, I am somewhat naturally inclined by my 24/7 paternal instinct to hate them a bit more then everyone else for longer. And that will be the case. S/He just better not do it again, because then comes The Void the rip them to shreds.