Sexual Predators (mature topic)

[Grabbin Keelz]

I'd probably have to talk to the guy for a bit before making the decision that he's decent enough to work at my store. I mean this is kindof an important decision to make.

 

[Leg End]

Yes. Hired then and there. His past has no meaning as to whether or not he can fix what needs fixin. He served his time. Though, I'll look into the details later.

If a customer comes in and doesn't like it, then they can kindly get the hell out of my fucking store, because they are probably not going to be a very nice customer.

Everyone deserves a second chance. And, if it is a case of "Statutory Rape", then I have no ill, because that charge is bullshit.

Though, if I find out he had sex with say... a 7 year old girl, well... it had better been consensual, not full on rape.

If rape, I'm not going to like him much at first. But, if the alleged victim forgives him, no hard feelings in my book.

[sub]Many shall disagree with me. inb4 "what do you mean consensual?"[/sub]

Did I read this right? Are you saying an adult sleeping with a 7-year-old is okay if it's consensual?

Well, it's personal opinion but if said person did it with said child consensually and the child did not feel scarred or abused/used later in life and it was consensual at the time, the law might frown upon it but I have no issue with them.

[sub]This might not be the best place to talk about this.[/sub]

I'm enraged and horrified at what you just said. It's a child! These laws are there protect them. There are NO justifible loopholes.

I'm... not sure... if sarcasm.

Are you using sarcasm? I can't tell.

Poe's Law is now in effect.

 

[BMWaugh]

Whatever your personal opinion on the matter of whether his past should affect your decision, there are more things to take in to account, such as your customers' opinions. I imagine your customers will also be aware of what he was convicted for, and as the owner of the business, you have to think about your customers.

More importantly, where they'll be spending their money instead when they find out there's a convicted paedophile working in your store.

 

[Leg End]

Yes. Hired then and there. His past has no meaning as to whether or not he can fix what needs fixin. He served his time. Though, I'll look into the details later.

If a customer comes in and doesn't like it, then they can kindly get the hell out of my fucking store, because they are probably not going to be a very nice customer.

Everyone deserves a second chance. And, if it is a case of "Statutory Rape", then I have no ill, because that charge is bullshit.

Though, if I find out he had sex with say... a 7 year old girl, well... it had better been consensual, not full on rape.

If rape, I'm not going to like him much at first. But, if the alleged victim forgives him, no hard feelings in my book.

[sub]Many shall disagree with me. inb4 "what do you mean consensual?"[/sub]

Did I read this right? Are you saying an adult sleeping with a 7-year-old is okay if it's consensual?

Well, it's personal opinion but if said person did it with said child consensually and the child did not feel scarred or abused/used later in life and it was consensual at the time, the law might frown upon it but I have no issue with them.

[sub]This might not be the best place to talk about this.[/sub]

I'm enraged and horrified at what you just said. It's a child! These laws are there protect them. There are NO justifible loopholes.

I'm... not sure... if sarcasm.

Are you using sarcasm? I can't tell.

Poe's Law is now in effect.

No sarcasm. The fact you can justify sleeping with a child in any way is so morally disgusting I'm at a loss of words.

I'm ending this conversation here. I cannot continue to speak to somebody who disagrees with such a core belief of mine. Every child should have the same innocent chilhood which I had.

Please tell me you are in some way typing this that it sounds like you are not serious ... I really cannot tell if you are serious or not.

Either way, ehh, no more discussion.

[sub]Damn you, Poe's Law, damn you![/sub]

 

[NardBasket]

A conviction doesn't mean he did it.
And even if he did do it, he's served his time. As long as he doesn't do it again, I see no reason not to give a qualified person a job.

I'd doubt I'd be particularily warm towards him, though. His actions would disgust me, and I would not be interested in being his friend.
Which isn't to say I'd be rude or hostile. Just cold.

Agreed. Though he'll always live with the stigma associated with what he did, he did indeed serve his time.

 

[markisb]

id hire him although id keep an eye on him.

 

[Death God]

If I had kids or kids came to my store, no. Too risky and I think he'd understand. If it was a liquor store or somewhere involving adults only, then yes. By all means. I'd still keep a watchful eye on him however.

 

[Sieggy]

Granted it would not negatively effect the sales of my business, then yes.

 

[Sindaine]

They wouldn't call them 'predators' if they didn't.

That's the biggest fallacy in the world.

There are numerous reasons why people would call them predators.
The obvious one being that people think that they stalk the streets looking for children, and so call them by the name they assume they fit.

Another reason is that they are predators, but there is more than one way to pray on a child. A far more common one being to find a child you have constant access to and groom them. Very much a predatory action, but doesn't in anyway involve stalking the streets.

I've been a victim of one of these monsters myself and I will do anything and everything in my power to prevent other children going through that.

Okay, so why are you giving the him money he needs to fly to Asia and rape child prostitutes over there?

Either way, he is being predatory and a danger to children. And get real; the sick fuck won't be able to afford a flight to Asia on minimum wage.

Actually, the "sick fuck" in question could afford it in about 3 months if he properly manages his money right.

I don't know why the hell I felt the need to point that out.

Sure, if he has someone else to make his house payments, doesn't have a car, doesn't use the internet or go to moviesor buy clothes/electronics/anything else and is maybe on food stamps. At which point one would hope that being a sick shitstain on the ass of society, would be the last thing on his mind. Also being a pedo, he's not likely to make any rational decisions.

Yeah, I don't like to imagine what that says about you.

 

[Leg End]

They wouldn't call them 'predators' if they didn't.

That's the biggest fallacy in the world.

There are numerous reasons why people would call them predators.
The obvious one being that people think that they stalk the streets looking for children, and so call them by the name they assume they fit.

Another reason is that they are predators, but there is more than one way to pray on a child. A far more common one being to find a child you have constant access to and groom them. Very much a predatory action, but doesn't in anyway involve stalking the streets.

I've been a victim of one of these monsters myself and I will do anything and everything in my power to prevent other children going through that.

Okay, so why are you giving the him money he needs to fly to Asia and rape child prostitutes over there?

Either way, he is being predatory and a danger to children. And get real; the sick fuck won't be able to afford a flight to Asia on minimum wage.

Actually, the "sick fuck" in question could afford it in about 3 months if he properly manages his money right.

I don't know why the hell I felt the need to point that out.

Sure, if he has someone else to make his house payments, doesn't have a car, doesn't use the internet or go to moviesor buy clothes/electronics/anything else and is maybe on food stamps. At which point one would hope that being a sick shitstain on the ass of society, would be the last thing on his mind. Also being a pedo, he's not likely to make any rational decisions.

Yeah, I don't like to imagine what that says about you.

All of those are entirely possible. Ergo, s/he has money.

Also, most likely he is not a Pedophile, but either a situational offender or a AoC victim if we are talking typical cases. The vast majority of Pedophiles do not molest. Plus, who is to say they are incapable of rational thinking?

I like to imagine though, I think it says I have an issue with blurting things out.

 

[InfiniteSingularity]

This thread is relevant to my interests.

Quoted for awesomeness

Yes. Hired then and there. His past has no meaning as to whether or not he can fix what needs fixin. He served his time. Though, I'll look into the details later.

If a customer comes in and doesn't like it, then they can kindly get the hell out of my fucking store, because they are probably not going to be a very nice customer.

Everyone deserves a second chance. And, if it is a case of "Statutory Rape", then I have no ill, because that charge is bullshit.

Though, if I find out he had sex with say... a 7 year old girl, well... it had better been consensual, not full on rape.

If rape, I'm not going to like him much at first. But, if the alleged victim forgives him, no hard feelings in my book.

[sub]Many shall disagree with me. inb4 "what do you mean consensual?"[/sub]

Did I read this right? Are you saying an adult sleeping with a 7-year-old is okay if it's consensual?

Well, it's personal opinion but if said person did it with said child consensually and the child did not feel scarred or abused/used later in life and it was consensual at the time, the law might frown upon it but I have no issue with them.

i.e, no harm no foul. But I do not condone molestation. The people that manipulate children or outright abuse them like that have no support from me.

[sub]This might not be the best place to talk about this.[/sub]

I would agree with this, not entirely, but it makes sense. I still think having sex with a child is wrong, even if it's consensual, but if it's already happened, and there was no harm done, what are you going to do about it, seriously?

Also: Consensual = Con-sensual

 

[Whitenail]

I'd hire him, so long as he behaved himself and didn't scare off customers. It is an electronics store after all, not a day-care centre.

 

[Leg End]

This thread is relevant to my interests.

Quoted for awesomeness

Yes. Hired then and there. His past has no meaning as to whether or not he can fix what needs fixin. He served his time. Though, I'll look into the details later.

If a customer comes in and doesn't like it, then they can kindly get the hell out of my fucking store, because they are probably not going to be a very nice customer.

Everyone deserves a second chance. And, if it is a case of "Statutory Rape", then I have no ill, because that charge is bullshit.

Though, if I find out he had sex with say... a 7 year old girl, well... it had better been consensual, not full on rape.

If rape, I'm not going to like him much at first. But, if the alleged victim forgives him, no hard feelings in my book.

[sub]Many shall disagree with me. inb4 "what do you mean consensual?"[/sub]

Did I read this right? Are you saying an adult sleeping with a 7-year-old is okay if it's consensual?

Well, it's personal opinion but if said person did it with said child consensually and the child did not feel scarred or abused/used later in life and it was consensual at the time, the law might frown upon it but I have no issue with them.

i.e, no harm no foul. But I do not condone molestation. The people that manipulate children or outright abuse them like that have no support from me.

[sub]This might not be the best place to talk about this.[/sub]

I would agree with this, not entirely, but it makes sense. I still think having sex with a child is wrong, even if it's consensual, but if it's already happened, and there was no harm done, what are you going to do about it, seriously?

Why did your post remind me of this?

But, yeah, pretty much. Although I disagree with the "even if" aspect, everything else is spot on.

 

[Royta]

Having an innate distrust of every single human being on this planet, I hire him. If he is that valuable of an employee, his past doesn't really matter to me.

However, at first sign of that past coming back and making itself shown in a negative way, he will be let go.

Pretty much this yeah. His resume is amazing and so are his referances.
Let the past be the past. If he falls back into said past though, he's fired because well...he's in jail.

 

[Gigano]

If he is the most qualified employee, and he post no risk for the customers or business image, I'd hire him.

He's paid his debt to society, and so the slate is wiped clean. Retribution should be followed by forgiveness, that is the nature of justice. Only commercial concerns and risk evaluation should govern whether he can be employed.

 

[bl4ckh4wk64]

Well, his immediate admittance of his crime shows he is in some way ashamed of it. This can be used to one's advantage. Trying to get a job shows that he is trying to re-integrate himself into society. This is also a step in the right direction. Knowing this, I would ask him if he could tell me more about his crime. If he can fess up to it and acknowledge that what he did was wrong, I would have no problem hiring him. If he shirks the matter, I would hire him but in a probation type period where I would give him menial jobs until I can get to know him better. Then I will be able to make the decision on whether I think he is trying to atone for his past. If he gets angry and tells me that the crime is none of his business, I would tell him that I'm not looking for new employees.

 

[Axzarious]

Well, considering how somebody can be labled this for some completely retarded reason, and its a blanket term... I state this because somebody can be arrested or charged for this on the basis that said female is 2 months till she is 18, and the guy is a month over 18. I belive the correct term is "Minor" and not child. Then again, laws in the states could be different in the wording.

I also find it ironic that society always preaches tolerance and understanding, yet never seems to uphold it, and then proceed to act like they are better than the 'others'.

 

[Firetaffer]

He has been RELEASED from prison. That tells you that what he has done is now behind him, and I would definitely hire him. Sure he might sexually assault someone again, but he'll go back to jail won't he.

 

[Blitzwarp]

No.

One: Even if 'Joe' does not do customer service , people would KNOW I hired him. That alone would lose me local business.

Two: I cannot hire someone I do not respect, and someone who has sexually assaulted a child is someone I do NOT respect.

Took the words right out of my, um, keyboard.

Since I'm not allowed to ask Joe any questions, and I can't verify his end of the story from the legal system's, I'm going to have to go with the data provided and my own morality. I can sympathise with the fact that the guy had "served his time" so to speak, but if the child was a five-year old who he stuffed into a van (instead of a 16/17 year old who may have been well aware of what he/she was doing) then that child and its family is still suffering, and I can't sling dirt in their face by empathising with the predator. He knew what he was doing.

 

[Carlston]

Sorry my friend, in Houston all sex offenders are registers and everyone knows who they are and can be found by a simple search on the internet.

So not to worried.

Here at least he'd still not be allowed to work anywhere children gather, game room ect, electronic store...hmm think could happen. All people should get another chance at life but it would be one of those stay in plain sight and don't ever be caught with a customer not in a public view type o thing.

Only thing I learned living in Seattle WA is when you refuse to give someone like this a job or second chance at life, damn well they will repeat the same crime, if you keep them hungry and homeless long enough.