No, it was a First-person Metroid. All the hallmarks of the series were there. The exploration and the discovery of new weapons and powers to use to discover new areas and get further in the game were still the key focuses to the gameplay. It may have been in first-person, but it was still a Metroidvania in every other respect.Innegativeion said:????? The primes took place in a first person perspective, and the main mechanic was shooting.
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I just watched it. He doesn't say he hates shooters, they just don't interest him, and he doesn't like a lot of the changes in Gaming culture that have come as a result of the genre's dominance.an874 said:Actually, he has in fact said exactly that. I can direct you to an episode of his Screwattack show "The Game Overthinker" called "Worst Person." I think it was episode 40-something, but I might be wrong. Go watch it, see his full view on the FPS genre, and tell then decide how you feel about his opinion, but he does end it quite inusltingly to people who like fps games (although it was done with comic exaggeration, so it didn't really bother me).Worgen said:You do realize he never said that, right?JPH330 said:Still won't work for all the Nintendo fans who say first person shooters are inherently bad.Worgen said:Did you even read the story? It sounds like he is more interested in the exploration aspect of what fps games used to be instead of the set pieces they mostly are now.JPH330 said:This is hilarious. I wonder what all the Nintendo fanboys who say "Yeah, Nintendo is awesome, they're not making a bunch of DUMB FIRST PERSON SHOOTERS LIKE EVERYONE ELSE" are thinking right now.
Hey Moviebob! See this here?
Hint: MovieBob.
I have two... well, there is also Borderlands...SupahGamuh said:I insist.
People complaining about Nintendo "making the same games over and over again", just look at your shelf of games, heck, just look at the game that's on your disc tray right now and tell me wich one has guns and the classic 3 colors of grey, brown and black?, heck, how many of those games start with a "Call" and ends with "Duty"?. And tell me how many changes has those games had over the span of 4 to 5 years?.
Yeah, that's what I thought.
Sounds like Halo.Tanis said:IMAGINE a FPS where it's using actual COLOR and not about killing the 'ethnic baddie of the week'.
Uhh... That adds up to about... four. Out of forty five. Only counting PS3 and Steam.SupahGamuh said:People complaining about Nintendo "making the same games over and over again", just look at your shelf of games, heck, just look at the game that's on your disc tray right now and tell me wich one has guns and the classic 3 colors of grey, brown and black?, heck, how many of those games start with a "Call" and ends with "Duty"?. And tell me how many changes has those games had over the span of 4 to 5 years?.
Yeah, that's what I thought.
or Serious SamDirty Hipsters said:Sounds like Halo.Tanis said:IMAGINE a FPS where it's using actual COLOR and not about killing the 'ethnic baddie of the week'.
I think he meant the whole exploration focus, rather than regular linear level-by-level styleInnegativeion said:????? The primes took place in a first person perspective, and the main mechanic was shooting.
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Legend of Zelda not violent? Despite the amount of sword-slashing going on?Scarim Coral said:True I guess since I have played and loved the Prime series but wouldn't the alien fuild you just shot would consider to be blood will alien blood?Innegativeion said:Well the Metroid Prime series are considered first party titles, and probably some of the best fps'es I've ever played. Right up there with Half-Life. Apparently, Miyamoto also had a hand in those, though not to the extent of mario and zelda of course.Scarim Coral said:Yes I do know Mario does got violence for stomping his enemies and Legend of Zelda did got FPS element with the bow and arrow (Star Fox was more like a shoot them up).
However consider what most FPS are like these days (Halo, Call of Duty, Gear Of War, Left 4 Dead, Serious Sam, Borderland, Fallout 3, Bullet Storm and etc and etc) I cannot grasp the idea of them doing a FPS like those unless it was quite kiddy in a way.
You don't need blood to kill peeps.
The Metroid game actually got pretty graphic, what with all the firing off alien body parts to expose organs gushing with blue or green fluid, the excruciatingly detailed descriptions in scans of how corpses you find died, blowing up a giant womb, fighting possessed corpses, and various other, usually phazon-based, body horrors.
I guess I can't picture Miyamoto, the creator of Mario to consider making a proper FPS game per say as he always seen games to be fun and playful and not violence like most FPS game. I mean I think it would be similar to Timesplitter as that game was fun and playful while you still kill things in that game.
To be fair, it was a naturally evolution of the early sidescrolling metroid games, which, among a few other games, pretty much invented nonlinear gameplay.teh_Canape said:I think he meant the whole exploration focus, rather than regular linear level-by-level style
which wasn't all that unique tbh, console Powerslave/Exhumed and even Hexen already had it =P
And not even a full minute into the video that you submit as evidence of MovieBob hating FPS games (about 50 seconds in, if we're keeping track): "I don't hate first person shooters". ggJPH330 said:Yes, he did. [http://www.screwattack.com/shows/partners/game-overthinker/game-overthinker-episode-42-worst-person%E2%80%9D]Worgen said:You do realize he never said that, right?JPH330 said:Still won't work for all the Nintendo fans who say first person shooters are inherently bad.Worgen said:Did you even read the story? It sounds like he is more interested in the exploration aspect of what fps games used to be instead of the set pieces they mostly are now.JPH330 said:This is hilarious. I wonder what all the Nintendo fanboys who say "Yeah, Nintendo is awesome, they're not making a bunch of DUMB FIRST PERSON SHOOTERS LIKE EVERYONE ELSE" are thinking right now.
Hey Moviebob! See this here?
Hint: MovieBob.
yeah I know all that, and that they went with exploration style to keep it... well MetroidInnegativeion said:To be fair, it was a naturally evolution of the early sidescrolling metroid games, which, among a few other games, pretty much invented nonlinear gameplay.teh_Canape said:I think he meant the whole exploration focus, rather than regular linear level-by-level style
which wasn't all that unique tbh, console Powerslave/Exhumed and even Hexen already had it =P
You know, it's called metroidvania for a reason .
I didn't say he hated them. Don't put words into my mouth.WhiteTigerShiro said:And not even a full minute into the video that you submit as evidence of MovieBob hating FPS games (about 50 seconds in, if we're keeping track): "I don't hate first person shooters". ggJPH330 said:Yes, he did. [http://www.screwattack.com/shows/partners/game-overthinker/game-overthinker-episode-42-worst-person%E2%80%9D]Worgen said:You do realize he never said that, right?JPH330 said:Still won't work for all the Nintendo fans who say first person shooters are inherently bad.Worgen said:Did you even read the story? It sounds like he is more interested in the exploration aspect of what fps games used to be instead of the set pieces they mostly are now.JPH330 said:This is hilarious. I wonder what all the Nintendo fanboys who say "Yeah, Nintendo is awesome, they're not making a bunch of DUMB FIRST PERSON SHOOTERS LIKE EVERYONE ELSE" are thinking right now.
Hey Moviebob! See this here?
Hint: MovieBob.
Yes!WanderingFool said:Calling it now...
Super Mario FPS...
Hmm, none and i own 22 ps3 games where 3 of them are first person shooters(Resistance 1+3 and Wolfenstein). Then there´s shadows of the damned and vanquish, which could also be considered shooters. The rest i different stuff (and no, it isn´t madden either^^).SupahGamuh said:People complaining about Nintendo "making the same games over and over again", just look at your shelf of games, heck, just look at the game that's on your disc tray right now and tell me wich one has guns and the classic 3 colors of grey, brown and black?, heck, how many of those games start with a "Call" and ends with "Duty"?. And tell me how many changes has those games had over the span of 4 to 5 years?.
Semantics. He still doesn't say what you think he says in that video. All he says (essentially) is that the FPS genre has grown stagnant; and it has. And this is coming from a person who's favorite games list includes titles like Serious Sam, Fallout 3, and Half Li- well, basically anything from Valve, really. ;P And let's not forget Deus Ex, Killing Floor, and a number of other FPS titles that would be hard to remove from a "Top 10 Favorites" list for me.JPH330 said:I didn't say he hated them. Don't put words into my mouth.WhiteTigerShiro said:And not even a full minute into the video that you submit as evidence of MovieBob hating FPS games (about 50 seconds in, if we're keeping track): "I don't hate first person shooters". ggJPH330 said:Yes, he did. [http://www.screwattack.com/shows/partners/game-overthinker/game-overthinker-episode-42-worst-person%E2%80%9D]Worgen said:You do realize he never said that, right?JPH330 said:Still won't work for all the Nintendo fans who say first person shooters are inherently bad.Worgen said:Did you even read the story? It sounds like he is more interested in the exploration aspect of what fps games used to be instead of the set pieces they mostly are now.JPH330 said:This is hilarious. I wonder what all the Nintendo fanboys who say "Yeah, Nintendo is awesome, they're not making a bunch of DUMB FIRST PERSON SHOOTERS LIKE EVERYONE ELSE" are thinking right now.
Hey Moviebob! See this here?
Hint: MovieBob.