Silicon Knights President: "Gameplay Isn't Everything"
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AHAHAHAHA!!!! THE GUY WHO MADE TOO HUMAN IS SAYS THAT GAMEPLAY ISN'T EVERYTHING!!! And he wonders why Too Human failed! I can't stop laughing!
indeed there's alot shit art there there's alot art films and just like normally movies alot of them are bad there just catering for a different audience. Deus EX is art!The Inconsistant Cookie said:
I can actually see that mentality. Its like Michael Bay, If you walk into a Bay film and expect a master piece, then you are a fool. Likewise if you got MGS4 for the gameplay, then you are a fool. Kojima wanted to "finish his story" which is what he did. But the gameplay was a little bit short.murphy7801 said:
maybe he's trying to pull a get out of jail free card for that monstrosity he made by saying you just don't get because your all thick.letsnoobtehpwns said:
People who make good games, like games. People who make goods cars, like cars. A company owned by a person or persons that have a passion for the products and/or services they provide is a good, honest company.
A company owned by a person or persons interested only in making money, without any regard to the integrity and quality of the products or services they provide is a bad company.
Good games are made by good designers, good programmers, good producers, storytellers, artists and everyone else. Bad games are when the previously mentioned participants are restricted by a team of dedicated accountants, with the sigle track mind of getting paid at the expence of quality goods.
Denis Dyack, are you a games designer or an pencil pusher?
A company owned by a person or persons interested only in making money, without any regard to the integrity and quality of the products or services they provide is a bad company.
Good games are made by good designers, good programmers, good producers, storytellers, artists and everyone else. Bad games are when the previously mentioned participants are restricted by a team of dedicated accountants, with the sigle track mind of getting paid at the expence of quality goods.
Denis Dyack, are you a games designer or an pencil pusher?
Its a film with bits game with in between basically making it a bad game or a non game (also the game play bits were not great).Fumbles said:
Gameplay isn't EVERYTHING, but it's really the most important thing. Gameplay that is lacking can be compensated for by a great story or immersion or incredible graphics and such, but its a much harder sell, and its easier to have great gameplay compensate for the other things I listed. That's why games like Halo, Gears of War, God of War, Quake, and to some extent casual/PopCap games do better than games like Psychonauts, No More Heroes, Beyond Good and Evil, and essentially the whole adventure game genre. If you want to focus more on presentation than gameplay, fair enough, but you'd better work hard to make all your other pieces compensate for it. I never played Too Human, but from what I can tell, SK did NOT do a good job of compensating for bad gameplay. It did a very good job with Eternal Darkness, which really exactly wow me in terms of gameplay but sucked me in about 5 minutes after I started playing it.
I'm Gamer I like architecture I don't go to games for nice architecture I go to buildings saying that mass effect had some cool architecture (also alot bland stuff as well).Zimbum said:
I think his argument makes sense if you're talking about trying to make an "art" game. Music, story and all the other elements gain more importance in comparison to gameplay to where they need to come together as a whole.
This doesn't make a game good though, take Tetris as an example. A game that just about everybody is familiar with; no story or other memorable bits, just gameplay.
I think gameplay is the most important part though. A game with great and interesting gameplay can compensate for lacking in other areas, but this probably won't work the other way around.
This doesn't make a game good though, take Tetris as an example. A game that just about everybody is familiar with; no story or other memorable bits, just gameplay.
I think gameplay is the most important part though. A game with great and interesting gameplay can compensate for lacking in other areas, but this probably won't work the other way around.
