Skyrim Patch Makes Dragons Fly Backwards

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Burst6

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blizzaradragon said:
Gotta love Bethesda. First they release a game with a hefty amount of bugs and glitches, then when that isn't enough they have to go and make MORE!

Seriously, why are people saying this is Game of the Year again? Doesn't a game have to be, you know, complete for it to qualify? Or at the very least be playable for an extended period of time?

This just shows how much of a better choice it was to get Skyward Sword over this game...
Because the game's flaws come mostly from its massive size.

I don't think there's a game as big as skyrim, but with as much detail put into it. There's just so much to do and so many things in the game, you have to expect bugs.

Every game has a small amount of bugs, and most games don't come close to the size of skyrim, so it makes sense that skyrim would have more bugs.

Besides, for me the game runs perfectly. There haven't been any game-breaking bugs, heck i can't even remember if Ive seen any bugs at all off the top of my head.
 

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The only thing for me is the PC patch is supposed to fix a few issues that bugged me. But on the other hand the game has been working more or less flawlessly for me with little to no bugs, so maybe I should wait until I hear the PC community feedback on it.

Honestly probably the worst bug I've had is quest items taking a long time to be no longer needed (and therefore tradeable) or a piece of a quest (like talk to merchant or pick up journal) showing incomplete because I did it out of order, but the quests have still worked anyway when I proceed past that point.
I strongly suggest to keep Steam offline until there is a patch for the patch, to patch up and fix whatever new weirdness that patch introduced. Maybe it's a PS3 exclusive, but I know my bugs and glitches by now, and I really don't feel like having any of my dragons do any weird stuff beyond not wanting to fight.
 

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Am i one of the few who hasnt had any problems really (Xbox-360) other than 2 freezes, which were before the first patch, and thats it?
 

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Irridium said:
Wish I would have known all this before I updated. Now I have a fucked Skyrim.

How do they keep getting away by releasing straight up broken crap like this? Yeah, big game, hard to find everything, blah blah blah. But I'm not asking for EVERYTHING to be perfect. I'm asking for the game to be functional and not completely broken.

I really don't think I'm being unreasonable here.
I don't think they intended for it to be broken :p For a lot of people I'm sure the patch worked fine. They do seem to have a history of skimping on testing though, fixing it for some and breaking it for others isn't good enough.
 

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Well now I'm glad I only rented it instead of bought it. Maybe by the time I can afford it, they've have this all fixed and I can go and kick some more forward-flying dragon ass.
 

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Burst6 said:
Besides, for me the game runs perfectly. There haven't been any game-breaking bugs, heck i can't even remember if Ive seen any bugs at all off the top of my head.
From one-and-a-half playthroughs on PC, I can share my bugs:

- cannot complete quests because quest giver seems to have forgotten about them
- cannot complete quests because target actor ("NPC") is either dead, missing or recently munched on by a dragon, and the engine didn't register the loss. Quest broken.
- cannot continue main story line, because I somehow managed to miss the cue to enter that door/portal/hole/whatever right then, right there. Only ways to "fix" are cheating on progress in console, resetting quest in console or beaming myself to the other side of never-opening gateway through no-clip mode.
- inventory full of crap that belongs to quests that were obviously never implemented properly (I carry around a lot of instruments no one wants)
- horse dying often and quickly, by showing the behaviour of a mountain lion, minus fangs and claws, without being able to tell it to stop and go away, far far away.

etc.

On PS3, I could so far witness the lag of doom. It makes the PS3 look very, very old. At least it doesn't make the PS3 look broken, as Fallout 3 did.
 

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Steam > Do not automatically update this game.

Done and done. Thanks for the heads up!
 

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I've been hearing that Steam will update Skyrim whether you want it to or not, so now I'm worried. :( I'd been playing a completely bug-free Skyrim!
 

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Headdrivehardscrew said:
Burst6 said:
Besides, for me the game runs perfectly. There haven't been any game-breaking bugs, heck i can't even remember if Ive seen any bugs at all off the top of my head.
From one-and-a-half playthroughs on PC, I can share my bugs:

- cannot complete quests because quest giver seems to have forgotten about them
- cannot complete quests because target actor ("NPC") is either dead, missing or recently munched on by a dragon, and the engine didn't register the loss. Quest broken.
- cannot continue main story line, because I somehow managed to miss the cue to enter that door/portal/hole/whatever right then, right there. Only ways to "fix" are cheating on progress in console, resetting quest in console or beaming myself to the other side of never-opening gateway through no-clip mode.
- inventory full of crap that belongs to quests that were obviously never implemented properly (I carry around a lot of instruments no one wants)
- horse dying often and quickly, by showing the behaviour of a mountain lion, minus fangs and claws, without being able to tell it to stop and go away, far far away.

etc.

On PS3, I could so far witness the lag of doom. It makes the PS3 look very, very old. At least it doesn't make the PS3 look broken, as Fallout 3 did.
Wow.. maybe it's just the consoles then.

The PC version works perfectly for me. I have it on high graphics and i even downloaded extra textures to make it look better. Mine still runs really well. No bugs or anything.

Also for the last two problems,

-what instruments are you talking about? Did you decide to pick up every lute you see hoping that someone would take it? Or did you take every single cup in the world in hopes that there's a quest where a needy person needs help opening a cup store?

-I never use horses anyway, except for Shadowmere. He's awesome (and invincible). The deathwish horses aren't a bug, but more of an annoying feature.
 

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Skyrim GOTY Edition seems like a really great investment to me right now. I'm picking up Skyward Sword soon to help tide me over until Mass Effect 3.
 

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I have almost 180hrs into Skyrim and so far all I have run into is a few random bits of lag that didn't last longer than a few seconds and one dragon with a weird texture issue. I patched it last night (playing on the 360) and so far I haven't seen much of a difference really. I am a little disappointed they didn't fix the texture scaling, but I will survive.
 

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Burst6 said:
Headdrivehardscrew said:
Burst6 said:
Besides, for me the game runs perfectly. There haven't been any game-breaking bugs, heck i can't even remember if Ive seen any bugs at all off the top of my head.
From one-and-a-half playthroughs on PC, I can share my bugs:

- cannot complete quests because quest giver seems to have forgotten about them
- cannot complete quests because target actor ("NPC") is either dead, missing or recently munched on by a dragon, and the engine didn't register the loss. Quest broken.
- cannot continue main story line, because I somehow managed to miss the cue to enter that door/portal/hole/whatever right then, right there. Only ways to "fix" are cheating on progress in console, resetting quest in console or beaming myself to the other side of never-opening gateway through no-clip mode.
- inventory full of crap that belongs to quests that were obviously never implemented properly (I carry around a lot of instruments no one wants)
- horse dying often and quickly, by showing the behaviour of a mountain lion, minus fangs and claws, without being able to tell it to stop and go away, far far away.

etc.

On PS3, I could so far witness the lag of doom. It makes the PS3 look very, very old. At least it doesn't make the PS3 look broken, as Fallout 3 did.
Wow.. maybe it's just the consoles then.

The PC version works perfectly for me. I have it on high graphics and i even downloaded extra textures to make it look better. Mine still runs really well. No bugs or anything.

Also for the last two problems,

-what instruments are you talking about? Did you decide to pick up every lute you see hoping that someone would take it? Or did you take every single cup in the world in hopes that there's a quest where a needy person needs help opening a cup store?

-I never use horses anyway, except for Shadowmere. He's awesome (and invincible). The deathwish horses aren't a bug, but more of an annoying feature.
Hey there. Yeah, maxing out the graphics is a treat, and it works well in shutting up console users who are unable to grasp the basics of computing power, gigabytes of RAM and fast hard drives. But that doesn't have anything to do with the scripting/AI/responsiveness issues. Those bugs of mine are mostly, if not exclusively due to the game/actor AI not working as intended.

The instruments are (radiant?) quest items which cannot be dropped, but the quest givers are nowhere to be found and have not shown up on the map long before endgame.

The horses... well, I'd love to adopt a Rottweiler or a mammoth or something like that, and I would expect them to engage any and all enemies on sight no questions asked... the whole horse thing was such a major turnoff and headache I do not intend to get another horse in Skyrim - ever. Not only do ingame horses behave in the most suicidal fashion imaginable, but dragons also seem to ignore my pelting them with arrows, fus-ro-dahs and fireballs so they can go play with my horse until it is dead. That's crap AI which I would like to consider "broken", and therefore buggy. I've met quite a number of amazingly inquisitive and even aggressive horses in real life, but none of them would have stood in front of a bear ripping them to shreds, or wait for a dragon to roast/freeze/bite them dead. It's just silly.
 

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The lamest part for me is that I had my Steam set not to auto-update but yet it updated it the second I logged in anyway and I didn't have backups ready for interface.bsa and TSV.Exe.
 

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Burst6 said:
Wow.. maybe it's just the consoles then.
It's not.

- Crash to PC at least 1/session
- Quest items disappearing from inventory (thankfully, there's another coral claw inside the cave)
- Quest/Event NPCs DOA, sometimes cutting whole quest lines or outposts out of the game for good.
- Quests targeting wandering monsters (Aela's quest to kill a sabercat I killed two days before - had to res it with console)
- Dragons not giving souls

It goes on... and on...


-what instruments are you talking about? Did you decide to pick up every lute you see hoping that someone would take it? Or did you take every single cup in the world in hopes that there's a quest where a needy person needs help opening a cup store?

-I never use horses anyway, except for Shadowmere. He's awesome (and invincible). The deathwish horses aren't a bug, but more of an annoying feature.
Now you're just trolling, and your claims of not running into any bugs seem more believable since you clearly have missed big chunks of the game.

If an item is a quest item, the stupid game doesn't let you drop/store it. When the quests bug out and become impossible to complete, all those stupid bard instruments are yours forever.

And Just because you don't use horses doesn't make them not bugged.
 

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I'm still having issues with lag in the ps3 version, I haven't seen in dragons going backwards yet though.
 

Burst6

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targren said:
Burst6 said:
Wow.. maybe it's just the consoles then.
It's not.

- Crash to PC at least 1/session
- Quest items disappearing from inventory (thankfully, there's another coral claw inside the cave)
- Quest/Event NPCs DOA, sometimes cutting whole quest lines or outposts out of the game for good.
- Quests targeting wandering monsters (Aela's quest to kill a sabercat I killed two days before - had to res it with console)
- Dragons not giving souls

It goes on... and on...


-what instruments are you talking about? Did you decide to pick up every lute you see hoping that someone would take it? Or did you take every single cup in the world in hopes that there's a quest where a needy person needs help opening a cup store?

-I never use horses anyway, except for Shadowmere. He's awesome (and invincible). The deathwish horses aren't a bug, but more of an annoying feature.
Now you're just trolling, and your claims of not running into any bugs seem more believable since you clearly have missed big chunks of the game.

If an item is a quest item, the stupid game doesn't let you drop/store it. When the quests bug out and become impossible to complete, all those stupid bard instruments are yours forever.

And Just because you don't use horses doesn't make them not bugged.
Well Ive been playing this game since 2 days after release, and i haven't run into major bugs.

Also i did buy a horse a few times, but I'm always scared that they'll die and I'll lose a lot of gold. Like i said, i don't see them attacking enemies as a glitch.
 

Tamrin

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That's not a bug.

Dragons have merely discovered the moonwalk in mid flight. There is no shout to express the level of awesome.
 

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Let my proclamation ring out across the land; Ha! Ha!

Bethesda can make some nice and shiny games, but they can't make them without crippling side-effects and bugs. We (the Doom and naysayers) all said the game was gonna be buggy upon launch and that the patches would make things worse.

Yes I want a cookie and a medal, or a chest to pin it on.
 

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Am I The only person who hasn't run into a glitch in Skyrim (Other than the one graphical one caused by installing it to the hard drive which I promptly fixed by uninstalling and playing it from the disc) ever? Hell I just played for at least 5 hours with the new patch and I Had no problems. I even fought a Dragon and it wasn't flying backwards for me. I guess I'm just really lucky...