You got that right. Internet down here is really expensive, and is like filtering glue down a thin wire.Aris Khandr said:
Skyrim physical copies have no data on the discs
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Have to say, not a big fan of downloading. I want to know if I'll have to download the game if I get it on a console (If anybody knows, give me a shout).
Why do they bother making physical copies at all if they're just basically Links and redeem codes in a case?
Have to say, not a big fan of downloading. I want to know if I'll have to download the game if I get it on a console (If anybody knows, give me a shout).
Why do they bother making physical copies at all if they're just basically Links and redeem codes in a case?
No download on the console(other than the eventual patches and DLC of course). Also the OP was wrong: The disk does have the install files on it, it simply installs through Steam but from the disk.Christopher N said:
I was about to rage until I saw this
thanks for that.lacktheknack said:Oh, snap! OP should see this...Caniroth said:This is not true, I've got the Skyrim DVD as well, and it has data on it, it just won't let you install it untill 11-11-11 (it checks with Steam though, but you won't have to download it, well, maybe you'll have to download a patch).
I'll wait to comment upon it when my collector's edition arrives tomorrow. But even if it is like that... Well 5gb is not that much to download. Even with crappy internet you can do it overnight I guess.
Yep, your modding community will get things ready faster because they won't have to wait for down- Waaait a minute.neonsword13-ops said:Console gaming for da win!
I hope the Xbox 360 version doesn't pull this kind of shit, because I couldn't finish Arkham City due to the fact the bugger kept telling me to go on Xbox Live, which I don't have.
Are you retarded ?
Do you honestly believe they would bother setting up production and logistics for a blank disk ?
Do you have any idea of how much work is involved in getting those boxes into your local retailers shelfs ?
If it was DL only, you'ld get an empty case and a DL code, simple as that.
If you get a disk, you WILL have code on it. Sure, we can all expect Day0 patches beeing downloaded during installation, but you'll have to have most of the game on disc.
Do you honestly believe they would bother setting up production and logistics for a blank disk ?
Do you have any idea of how much work is involved in getting those boxes into your local retailers shelfs ?
If it was DL only, you'ld get an empty case and a DL code, simple as that.
If you get a disk, you WILL have code on it. Sure, we can all expect Day0 patches beeing downloaded during installation, but you'll have to have most of the game on disc.
Yeah, this.lacktheknack said:Oh, snap! OP should see this...Caniroth said:This is not true, I've got the Skyrim DVD as well, and it has data on it, it just won't let you install it untill 11-11-11 (it checks with Steam though, but you won't have to download it, well, maybe you'll have to download a patch
It's worth noting that sometimes discs with Steam on it fuck up and decide it'd rather not install the game. All the data is there, it just activates then uses the download as a source instead of the disc. Usually all you have to do is delete the game, then run the installer again and it should get itself into gear.
The Steam disc installer and Steam downloader also look identical, right down to the mb/s measure, so your friend could have been mistaken that way.
And despite refuting everything we've heard so far and completely diffusing the problem here, that statement is going largely ignored. Like, five more pages of ignored. God damnit.Caniroth said:This is not true, I've got the Skyrim DVD as well, and it has data on it, it just won't let you install it untill 11-11-11 (it checks with Steam though, but you won't have to download it, well, maybe you'll have to download a patch
It will apparently be a paper material that feels similar to burlap. It was tweeted on that guys (his name escapes me at this time) twitter account. The guy from Bethesda... damn, and I can't find his name. It's not just going to be plain paper, no worries about that.Insanity72 said:
Hey guys, just giving my 2 cents.
I pre-ordered skyrim for PC and got it yesterday (The Netherlands gets their copies faster appearantly <3, still can't do anything because steam unlocks it at 11-11-11, just fapping on the disc xD)
As far as I know you don't have to download the whole game, the data on the disc directs you to steam, yes, but I think it will be the same as with the Dawn of War 2 games that you need to have steam and then it gets the data from the disc. So internetz is needed alas.
I would like to see the game accesible without internet, just like Oblivion. Hoping they will give a refund or whatever other option(Will likely never ever happen, but hey, one can hope)
Hoping this might calm a few people
I pre-ordered skyrim for PC and got it yesterday (The Netherlands gets their copies faster appearantly <3, still can't do anything because steam unlocks it at 11-11-11, just fapping on the disc xD)
As far as I know you don't have to download the whole game, the data on the disc directs you to steam, yes, but I think it will be the same as with the Dawn of War 2 games that you need to have steam and then it gets the data from the disc. So internetz is needed alas.
I would like to see the game accesible without internet, just like Oblivion. Hoping they will give a refund or whatever other option(Will likely never ever happen, but hey, one can hope)
Hoping this might calm a few people
I bet you haven't been PC gaming for very long. Having a physical copy is just so much better then a Steam or GOG download. I bought the Orange Box off of Ebay last month just to have the physical copy. Also my internet is really slow. And capped. And it's stolen WiFi.Somonah said:
Possibly Rawne meant "broadband"? A lot of people in less well provisioned areas are stuck on dialup because it's just too expensive for themselves or the cable company to run a BB line out to them, and satellite broadband is still kinda pricey. You can still get a reasonable game over dial-up if all the textures etc are cached, you just can't use voice chat or download any extra stuff in a meaningful fashion. If you're on 56k, six gigabytes would take about ELEVEN DAYS to download, IF you do nothing else, AND the line doesn't drop after a few hours... which is a heck of a wait even if your connection call is free. If it's charged at, say, a super low 0.5p per minute, that's £77...Somonah said:
I think I already covered those two points... but let's reiterate.
* If the download is running slow, as in significantly below 2mbit/sec (which is not an uncommon thing to happen - as I said, Portal really dragged, and that was just from the stragglers who never previously played it grabbing it for free rather than the launch of a hotly anticipated AAA title) then it won't complete in the "off peak" period. Either you'll have to interrupt it with no good guarantee it won't just start over (AND wait most of an extra day before getting to play your paid-for game), or accept that hit to your bandwidth. And some people don't have this partitioning - I specifically went for this plan even though it wasn't the most affordable or that high a peaktime cap because I have a catch-up-TV streamer set to download in the offpeak time, and don't make superheavy data use of the internet other than that.
And, if it actually downloads from Steam without telling you, or you put the disc in and set it going automatically or whatever, trusting it to come off the disc, that's a sudden and unexpected lump of peak time usage (or unavoidable consumption of your 24/7 cap). Also, I would have to stay up to start it - or, having bought the game earlier in the day, on disc so I could start straight away... I'd feel cheated at then having to wait those long agonising hours until it can be safely started.
* My own internet speed isn't the issue, I haven't had to use anything less than 10mbit in quite a while - or at least, my mother's net (which I sometimes "borrow" from if I'm near my cap) will step down from 10 to 5 to 2.5 when you make heavy use of it in a short period, but you'd still be able to snag 6gb in ~3 hours even so. My own connection doesn't have heavy traffic shaping, just the "flexible" cap (ie you pay harsh overage fees but there's no upper limit). In clear conditions it will run at a fairly steady 13-ish Mbit, which is better than 1x DVD or 8x CDROM, and get you the game in about 90 minutes.
What instead I'm anticipating is huge SERVER load, which may bring speeds way down. I'm sure Steam has quite a good connection and some pretty beefy servers, but there's still a limit to what you can supply, and big "events" like this would create congestion even WITH some of the players installing from disc instead. If it was to fall to, say, 1.5 Mbit (single-speed CDROM), then the aforementioned longer-than-eight-hour download would result. That's peaktime usage I shouldn't have to be virtually/actually paying for, time spent waiting for a download when I could be playing, and an utter waste of a pressed DVD, the box it comes in, and the drive it was inserted into.
Well glad to find out data is on disc from later posts in thread. I was about to cancel my pre-order because last game I downloaded entirely offline was League of Legends and that took me nine hours. Partially because down loader kept freezing for first five.
There's no proof or guarantee of that. It might be near impossible to hack. The sites (at least, the easy to find ones) may be hit with takedown notices and greyhat DDoSes.bahumat42 said:
If you have it there, on a disc, then you can play it as long as you like. I recently resurrected my old Atari... and most of the floppies, despite being of early 90s vintage, still worked well enough for me to get the games and other apps up and running, and I had an enjoyable evening wandering down memory lane.
Ditto a lot of old PC games on floppy and CDROM.
Some of the ones that don't work, I'm fairly confident in finding a copy of online... but others, particularly those which stopped working years ago before I even put the machine to bed, I have NEVER found online copies of, and when they do sometimes crop up, they're fakes or otherwise corrupted and don't work.
You can repair a scratched CD / DVD, and keep retrying reads on a worn floppy in the hope that the head will catch the last fragments of the dying sector and you can clone it onto a new one. Bit hard to do that with files on a remote hard disk that are just images of a disc someone else ripped ages ago and may have made a complete hash of.