OH NO THE MOST OP 'TACTIC' IN THE GAME IS GONE, NOW I HAVE TO USE A SNIPER FOR SNIPING
THIS IS THE WORST GAME EVER
THIS IS THE WORST GAME EVER
Sniping is officially WORTHLESS in Black Ops
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Why does everyone act like a gun expert? I guess if someone comes up on you while you have a sniper rifle you should just give up. The bullets aren't lethal until they travel 100 yards.
Quickscoping wasn't an instant "pick up a sniper and win every game" tactic.
Don't act like you went 30-2 the first time you tried it (if you ever even tried it).
If you didn't try it, why are you arguing it takes no skill? How would you know?
I never did it much, and never really had a problem with others using it against me.
Most of the time it's just some idiot trying to be cool, and they can't pull it off.
Quickscoping wasn't even that much of an issue.
Quickscoping wasn't an instant "pick up a sniper and win every game" tactic.
Don't act like you went 30-2 the first time you tried it (if you ever even tried it).
If you didn't try it, why are you arguing it takes no skill? How would you know?
I never did it much, and never really had a problem with others using it against me.
Most of the time it's just some idiot trying to be cool, and they can't pull it off.
Quickscoping wasn't even that much of an issue.
I think it's funny you use the phrase "snipe like a man" to describe laying in a bush trying not to be discovered. If it were any other weapon, that would be the complete opposite of "playing like a man".hobo_welf said:
Correct, I quoted the wrong person in that multi-quote post. My bad.hobo_welf said:
My point is still valid though. Apparently "sniping like a man" involves playing like a vagina. Ironic.
I don't think you understand how much aim assist helps console shooters. An example I've heard a lot is "trying to headshot your teammates in Halo". It's a HELL of a lot harder than getting a headshot on an enemy, because there's no sticky aim at all. Console shooters simply wouldn't function well without aim assist, especially online where lag must also be taken into account.THEJORRRG said:
CoD4's sniping problem was with hit detection and a faulty ACOG scope.Lukeydoodly said:
Black Ops' sniping problem is Treyarch over-nerfing something that wasn't an issue to begin with, then adding to the problem by making maps that suck for sniping anyways.
There's a big difference.
I actually didn't play CoD4 until after that patch, so I wouldn't know. However, it is a different situation. Infinity Ward released sniping with bugs, Treyarch released sniping with intentional changes that make it utterly useless.Lukeydoodly said:
I haven't played black ops yet, but this seems stupid.
It's one thing it making it hard to aim, it's another to make the bullet do no damage.
If it really was that much of an issue (quickscoping, that is), then they should have made firing during scoping in, or right afterwards cause accuracy to go down a ton.
But making it so the bullet doesn't even cause damage,even at point blank range? horrible.
Besides the fact that in real life, a sniper is just easy to aim with at close range as any other gun.
It's one thing it making it hard to aim, it's another to make the bullet do no damage.
If it really was that much of an issue (quickscoping, that is), then they should have made firing during scoping in, or right afterwards cause accuracy to go down a ton.
But making it so the bullet doesn't even cause damage,even at point blank range? horrible.
Besides the fact that in real life, a sniper is just easy to aim with at close range as any other gun.
[HEADING=3] BLACK OPS IS NOT A NEW GAME , IT'S JUST ANOTHER FPS, AND A VIRAL ONE AT THAT, WHAT IS THERE TO TALK ABOUT? [/HEADING]
seriously you people will argue over fruit and vegetables in the supermarket, it's JUST a fps
and I played it it's nothing to care about, unless you were dumb enough to pay 60$ and expected something else
seriously you people will argue over fruit and vegetables in the supermarket, it's JUST a fps
and I played it it's nothing to care about, unless you were dumb enough to pay 60$ and expected something else
hmmmm
A tenuous dilemma.
The cult of the kill seems to be breathing down our necks pretty hard here. I think, perhaps, the crux of that matter is that snipers want to have the pulse pumping, moment by moment action that other weapon users have. The need to rack up kills to level into the system makes it NECESSARY that one curtail their builds for that purpose.
If the game literally has no room for snipers to sit back in friendly controlled territory to snipe, that is unfortunate, but I fear that is leaving out details. I also feel that the video chosen by the OP was diametrically opposed to this style of play, even maligning the methods used by snipers to defend themselves in these circumstances.
I am cautious in asserting my personal experiences, so please take these next items with due accord. I have enjoyed sniping in the past. I have despaired the process of moving from one sniping location to another, because that is when the sniper is supposed to be most vulnerable (I a address this further down). The rewards, however, for getting into enemy territory and sniping my opponents from a tactical position are profound. Therein... there are tools for those whom need to A travel as a sniper, and B defend a sniping position. Most war based FPS has included them for some time now. Explosives applied as a form of perimeter control buy you time and a warning if you are being approached or have been detected. Lastly, fighting off attackers is the height of excitement for this model. Not because you need to KILL the person, but because you should already have an escape route planned, and a reason for them not to follow. A volley of bullets from a pistol and a few well places grenades will leave a sniper in fine condition to slip away. A SKILLFUL volley of bullets and a well placed grenade will kill your attacker and give you time to choose a new position.
Then again, perhaps I play for the wrong reasons. As I mentioned initially, the cult of the kill dictates that you must achieve the highest number of kills, in the shortest period of time, dying as little as possible in the process as a subordinate concern to the previously stated primary objective. I have my builds I used for that. I also have builds I use for fun.
TL;DR
So I heartily recommend, but do not find myself so bold as to admonish, that we all remember to have fun while playing our games!
A tenuous dilemma.
The cult of the kill seems to be breathing down our necks pretty hard here. I think, perhaps, the crux of that matter is that snipers want to have the pulse pumping, moment by moment action that other weapon users have. The need to rack up kills to level into the system makes it NECESSARY that one curtail their builds for that purpose.
If the game literally has no room for snipers to sit back in friendly controlled territory to snipe, that is unfortunate, but I fear that is leaving out details. I also feel that the video chosen by the OP was diametrically opposed to this style of play, even maligning the methods used by snipers to defend themselves in these circumstances.
I am cautious in asserting my personal experiences, so please take these next items with due accord. I have enjoyed sniping in the past. I have despaired the process of moving from one sniping location to another, because that is when the sniper is supposed to be most vulnerable (I a address this further down). The rewards, however, for getting into enemy territory and sniping my opponents from a tactical position are profound. Therein... there are tools for those whom need to A travel as a sniper, and B defend a sniping position. Most war based FPS has included them for some time now. Explosives applied as a form of perimeter control buy you time and a warning if you are being approached or have been detected. Lastly, fighting off attackers is the height of excitement for this model. Not because you need to KILL the person, but because you should already have an escape route planned, and a reason for them not to follow. A volley of bullets from a pistol and a few well places grenades will leave a sniper in fine condition to slip away. A SKILLFUL volley of bullets and a well placed grenade will kill your attacker and give you time to choose a new position.
Then again, perhaps I play for the wrong reasons. As I mentioned initially, the cult of the kill dictates that you must achieve the highest number of kills, in the shortest period of time, dying as little as possible in the process as a subordinate concern to the previously stated primary objective. I have my builds I used for that. I also have builds I use for fun.
TL;DR
So I heartily recommend, but do not find myself so bold as to admonish, that we all remember to have fun while playing our games!
The wait time between the scope coming up and your shot actually being accurate is a lot closer to 2 seconds than it is half a second, I can tell you that.Bocaj2000 said:
I've actually discovered a way that allows you to quick scope nearly as effectively as CoD4, however the map layouts still prevent snipers from being very effective. There's simply too many short alleys and tight corners on EVERY map in Black Ops. They're specifically designed to prevent long corridors, which is a shame.
i can see thousands of cod fanatics going
WHAAAHHH NO MORE QUICKSCOPING I CANT EXPLOIT CHEAP TRICKS ANYMORE WHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.....
jesus fucking christ call the whambulance
WHAAAHHH NO MORE QUICKSCOPING I CANT EXPLOIT CHEAP TRICKS ANYMORE WHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.....
jesus fucking christ call the whambulance