Sony Admits Private PSN Info Has Been Stolen - All Of It

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Xiado said:
Anyone who gets money stolen should take Sony to court.
Or....just change all there passwords like they should be doing periodically anyways, and alert there banks that your credit card info may have been leaked so that they can keep an eye out for oddities in your statements. This actually still isn't a big deal at all.
 

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Good going, Sony.

Your system is about as stable and secure as... something instable and insecure.
An emotionally fragile teenage female with self-image issues stemming from having a smoking-hot mother and a high childhood dependancy on television for visual stimulus?

OT: Bastards. Seriously, they wait a week to tell us?!
 

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zxBARRICADExz said:
Michael Flick said:
zxBARRICADExz said:
dont get me wrong... i love my ps3's games.. but the security of the 360 and XBL is quite alot more hardcore than the PSN..
How is the XBL system more "hardcore" exactly?
from a security standpoint. it's far superior.

XBL has NEVER been taken down from a security breach.. EVER.. due to the amount of funding and personnel involved with keeping the security tight.

didnt meen to run you the wrong way fanboy.
Y.. Bu.. Th.. You no longer have any credibility. Microsoft is NOT completely bullet-proof from disasters like this. Don't even START that shit.

Oh, and I think you'll find it's "Didn't mean to run you the wrong way, fanboy." GRAMMAR AND PUNCTUATION ON MY INTERNET OH NOES GET AN ADULT! :O

Actually, being logical for a second here.. How is he a fanboy? He merely pointed out the incredible flaw in your statement. Way to be a hypocrite, buddy~

As I've stated, I own a 360 AND a PSP (not a PS3). I have no admiration or fanboyism towards either company. I think the whole fanboy thing is incredibly fucking stupid and annoying. People just need to shut up and stick to THEIR OWN THING. Don't like Sony? Fine, don't ***** about them, don't play their content! Don't like Microsoft or you call them Micro$hit? Fine! Don't play they content, don't ***** about them. Stick to your own stuff that you DO play.

With all this going on, the folks at Nintendo are probably jumping for joy! Microsoft AND Sony need to get their heads out of their asses, because Ninty gon fuck yo' shit up.
 

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Oh this is bad, Sony, really bad.

It wouldn't be nearly as bed if I wasn't so sure you were sitting on this information for atleast half a week before telling everyone. Thank God I havn't made any purchases online.
 

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Awexsome said:
Nurb said:
Awexsome said:
Nurb said:
Ha, way
Awexsome said:
Dorkmaster Flek said:
Awexsome said:
Good ol' hackers. Fighting for your consumer rights against the evil corporation that takes away your rights...

Oh wait they have been douchebags the whole time in this case. Nevermind. Fuck you Geohotz for probably causing all this by releasing that code. If not then you certainly encouraged it.
You mind explaining how a hack to run homebrew code on your PS3 enabled the entire security of the PSN to be compromised? Sony's horrendous security is at fault here, not hackers playing homebrew code.
The PSN was obviously prepared for stuff like this to happen before hence no massive issues like this yet.

It wasn't prepared to deal with hackers potentially having the end all be all code that jailbreaks the PS3.
PS3 owners deserve to treat their system like their PC without getting dragged into court
No, they don't get to. Deal with it.

Because a few bad apples spoils the bunch. A sad truth but look what happened here. Blame the people who would exploit it if Sony opened the doors to everyone, not Sony for trying to protect everyone's security.
Yes. they do. It's a computer, people have a right to look into how their computers work at the code level and talk about it. If they want so much control over people's property, then they can charge less for it or lease it for 10 bucks a month.

Just because people make viruses for PCs doesn't mean software engineers should be thrown in prison for figuring out and sharing how the window OS works, and you don't see car companies dragging car enthusiasts into court for cracking their car computer to tweak performance.

So yea, Sony isn't special and they're no different than any other hardware manufacturer. Deal with that. Damn kids are being brainwashed into defending some corporate bully who can't even encrypt their customer data. Not even banks let hackers get away with the entire database and they're hacked all the time.
You ever think things are better now? That they don't give people permission to do whatever they want?

It only pisses off a very small amount as most people get what they want from the functionality provided. You ever think that maybe the old ways were worse? Sure the people who love customization take a hit but its a small price to pay for the added security.

I'm not going to convince someone that has lived their entire life thinking that freedom is a given when given a new piece of technology but the times have changed.
I'm not giving up dick because some company can't do what every other damn company does and MAKE A PATCH when they discover someone found an exploit. You're a perfect example as how kids are manipulated by these lazy corporate bastards into thinking people need to give up more freedom as technology advances and finding an exploit in the company's hardware is something that needs to be punished.

Fuck that and fuck them. They can't punish people because they screw up and don't move fast enough to fix it like every other company out there. Most companies don't prosecute jailbreakers, they just update the firmware.
 

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Sir we've been hacked!
What could they have gotten?.... account numbers, ids what?
They could have gotten all of it!
What all of the Account information?
No, ALL of it!
*beat*
Get me my brown pants...

This is not going to end well for Sony. Let's hope that that they didn't actually steal anything.
Corrected
 

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Nurb said:
omega_peaches said:
Thanks GeoHotz. Thanks to you being a fucking cocksucking douchebag, tons of people's personal info has been lost.
Nurb said:
Awexsome said:
Nurb said:
Ha, way
Awexsome said:
Dorkmaster Flek said:
Awexsome said:
Good ol' hackers. Fighting for your consumer rights against the evil corporation that takes away your rights...

Oh wait they have been douchebags the whole time in this case. Nevermind. Fuck you Geohotz for probably causing all this by releasing that code. If not then you certainly encouraged it.
You mind explaining how a hack to run homebrew code on your PS3 enabled the entire security of the PSN to be compromised? Sony's horrendous security is at fault here, not hackers playing homebrew code.
The PSN was obviously prepared for stuff like this to happen before hence no massive issues like this yet.

It wasn't prepared to deal with hackers potentially having the end all be all code that jailbreaks the PS3.
PS3 owners deserve to treat their system like their PC without getting dragged into court
No, they don't get to. Deal with it.

Because a few bad apples spoils the bunch. A sad truth but look what happened here. Blame the people who would exploit it if Sony opened the doors to everyone, not Sony for trying to protect everyone's security.
Yes. they do. It's a computer, people have a right to look into how their computers work at the code level and talk about it. If they want so much control over people's property, then they can charge less for it or lease it for 10 bucks a month.

Just because people make viruses for PCs doesn't mean software engineers should be thrown in prison for figuring out and sharing how the window OS works, and you don't see car companies dragging car enthusiasts into court for cracking their car computer to tweak performance.

So yea, Sony isn't special and they're no different than any other hardware manufacturer. Deal with that. Damn kids are being brainwashed into defending some corporate bully who can't even encrypt their customer data. Not even banks let hackers get away with the entire database and they're hacked all the time.
But on a PC, it's probably my fault that I got a virus, but on the PS3 however, this isn't even remotely my fault.
I'm not saying anything about getting viruses, I'm saying people dont go to jail for telling others how windows works at code level and how to exploit it to make viruses and wreak havoc. Only people who actually make the virus and use it are the ones who should be punished. Knowledge isn't a crime.
Oh, I misread your post lol.
Still, I think that the people who did this are a bunch of cocks.
 

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Okay, I have to throw in my two cents here, to everyone saying 'down with hackers' 'this is geohotz's fault' 'who supports hackers now??'

Let me clarify something for you all, Geohotz, who modified a system in order to increase it's potential did NOT enable this in anyway. Hackers in general, are not malicious, they create, they program, they aren't 'bad' at all, they help actually. Now CRACKERS on the other hand, destroy. These cyber criminals weren't hackers at all, they didn't create anything or modify anything for the betterment of it. They destroyed their way into the PSN, and retrieved sensitive information. Stop acting like you know what you're talking about when you talk about hackers, Geohotz was a hacker, or a modder to whoever wants to call him that, not a cracker. Don't act like crackers are expected to be 'better' than this either, it's called crime, and just because it's over the internet doesn't make it any less malicious.
 

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Bakuryukun said:
Also People seem to be majorly butthurt about the fact that they can't hack the console they say that you should be able to do whatever you want with your own property, the only thing is that applies only to things that are purely about the system, the second that the network itself (which IS owned by Sony) is involved or could be involved. Sony has the right to do what it pleases. You can mod a car, but you can't mod it so far that it may affect it's safety on the road. Besides, Why would you even want to mod a PS3 like a PC? PC's are already way better for modding than PS3 will EVER be.
What would you mod a PC for? It can already do tons of shit! And hey, by the way, dude, the "mod" sought after was really just a way to bring back features Sony removed from the console for no good reason.

P.S. I hope you weren't suggesting that PS3 mods affect the PSN network. That would be wrong. Not just a little wrong, but a lot.
 

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Wow, shit.

I'm trying to think who would have a motive to do this...GeoHotz is one guy, and pissing off the entire playerbase over a petty squabble with Sony seems ridiculous. The same applies for Anonymous, their digs were with Sony, not the playerbase, unless they're trying to bankrupt Sony or something, or at least dint their sales.

Hmm...
My thoughts exactly, Anonymous and Geohotz were enjoying (mostly) favorable views from people so why on earth would they piss off this many people and give their opponents this much ammo? It just doesn't add up, I still believe something else is going on here.
 

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Frostbite3789 said:
Because as a super expert, and not just a person speculating on an online forum, half thinking aloud. Putting my thoughts out there for others to mull over. No no, you're right, as a person I'm not allowed to speculate. ON THE INTERNET! That'd be wrong.

But hey, I like being treated like I should know everything. If that's what you want to think of me, cool.
Wait, so "almost guarantee" is now synonymous with "to speculate"? Ok, well, then your speculation isn't good enough.
In that case, your speculation, or rather before guarantee from before (you used the definite term of it not being good enough, with no qualification), isn't good enough. You know just as much as I do, that's my thought on the matter. You can disagree all day long, but as of now, neither of us knows.

I have the timing of events on my side however. It's extremely convenient isn't it that this would happen on the tail end of all that, eh?
 

Nurb

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MattAn24 said:
Nurb said:
Yes. they do. It's a computer, people have a right to look into how their computers work at the code level and talk about it. If they want so much control over people's property, then they can charge less for it or lease it for 10 bucks a month.

Just because people make viruses for PCs doesn't mean software engineers should be thrown in prison for figuring out and sharing how the window OS works, and you don't see car companies dragging car enthusiasts into court for cracking their car computer to tweak performance.

So yea, Sony isn't special and they're no different than any other hardware manufacturer. Deal with that. Damn kids are being brainwashed into defending some corporate bully who can't even encrypt their customer data. Not even banks let hackers get away with the entire database and they're hacked all the time.
No, actually. Just because the PS3 is called "Sony Computer Entertainment System", doesn't make it a "computer". Apple makes computers. Microsoft makes computers. The Xbox 360 is a VIDEO GAME CONSOLE. Not a computer. The PS3 is a VIDEO GAME CONSOLE. Not a computer. The Nintendo Wii is a VIDEO GAME CONSOLE. Not a computer.

Previous console generations were exactly that. Consoles. They played video games. That's what they do. You fuck with that, you're a fucking twat.
Yes it is. Even calculators are computers... the first mechanical calculating machines were called computers BECAUSE THEY COMPUTE NUMBERS.

 

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Pyrokinesis said:
Twilight_guy said:
Sir we've been hacked!
What could they have gotten?.... account numbers, ids what?
They could have gotten all of it!
What all of the Account information?
No, ALL of it!
*beat*
Get me my brown pants...

This is not going to end well for Sony. Let's hope that that they didn't actually steal anything.
Corrected
What are you insinuating about my joke? Are you question my sense of humor or ability to construct jokes! If you are, I'll kill you, I'll murder you in your sleep, you'll never see it coming... arrghhgr!

There's no reason to correct the superficial joke dude.
 

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At this point the only person we can definitely blame is the hack writer who posted the title to this article. This is irresponsible, sensationalist journalism, and the man should be called out for what he did: LIE about a news story to get more attention. "Admits private info is stolen" my ass.

To borrow from Orwell:
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
 

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MattAn24 said:
Owyn_Merrilin said:
com·put·er
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Also called processor. an electronic device designed to accept data, perform prescribed mathematical and logical operations at high speed, and display the results of these operations. Compare analog computer, digital computer.

Yeah, it's a computer. So is your calculator and your digital watch.
Now, if you're done being a gigantic twat...

PCs can be legitimately/legally modified to a certain degree, enough to not be a form of cheating in PC games, etc.

With consoles, they're made how the manufacturer DESIGNED them. PCs can be custom-built. Consoles are NOT custom-built. They are made how they're meant to be used. Fucking with it is a breach of not only warranty but quality of the original product.
If it breaches the warranty, so be it, but it actually improves the quality. Why on earth would you buy a powerful computer that can only run code made by specific people, especially if there is a way to get it to run whatever code you want? I'm sorry to tell you this, but homebrew is awesome.
 

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Nurb said:
Awexsome said:
Nurb said:
Awexsome said:
Nurb said:
Ha, way
Awexsome said:
Dorkmaster Flek said:
Awexsome said:
Good ol' hackers. Fighting for your consumer rights against the evil corporation that takes away your rights...

Oh wait they have been douchebags the whole time in this case. Nevermind. Fuck you Geohotz for probably causing all this by releasing that code. If not then you certainly encouraged it.
You mind explaining how a hack to run homebrew code on your PS3 enabled the entire security of the PSN to be compromised? Sony's horrendous security is at fault here, not hackers playing homebrew code.
The PSN was obviously prepared for stuff like this to happen before hence no massive issues like this yet.

It wasn't prepared to deal with hackers potentially having the end all be all code that jailbreaks the PS3.
PS3 owners deserve to treat their system like their PC without getting dragged into court
No, they don't get to. Deal with it.

Because a few bad apples spoils the bunch. A sad truth but look what happened here. Blame the people who would exploit it if Sony opened the doors to everyone, not Sony for trying to protect everyone's security.
Yes. they do. It's a computer, people have a right to look into how their computers work at the code level and talk about it. If they want so much control over people's property, then they can charge less for it or lease it for 10 bucks a month.

Just because people make viruses for PCs doesn't mean software engineers should be thrown in prison for figuring out and sharing how the window OS works, and you don't see car companies dragging car enthusiasts into court for cracking their car computer to tweak performance.

So yea, Sony isn't special and they're no different than any other hardware manufacturer. Deal with that. Damn kids are being brainwashed into defending some corporate bully who can't even encrypt their customer data. Not even banks let hackers get away with the entire database and they're hacked all the time.
You ever think things are better now? That they don't give people permission to do whatever they want?

It only pisses off a very small amount as most people get what they want from the functionality provided. You ever think that maybe the old ways were worse? Sure the people who love customization take a hit but its a small price to pay for the added security.

I'm not going to convince someone that has lived their entire life thinking that freedom is a given when given a new piece of technology but the times have changed.
I'm not giving up dick because some company can't do what every other damn company does and MAKE A PATCH when they discover someone found an exploit. You're a perfect example as how kids are manipulated by these lazy corporate bastards into thinking people need to give up more freedom as technology advances and finding an exploit in the company's hardware is something that needs to be punished.

Fuck that and fuck them. They can't punish people because they screw up and don't move fast enough to fix it like every other company out there. Apple doesn't prosecute jailbreakers, they just update the firmware.
Of course. Lazy corporate bastards.

Y'know they're not evil bad guys. As much as you lie to yourself they aren't actively trying to screw you over. They're trying to do what's best for everyone and the people who want stuff like you want are an extreme minority now.

I know you want to think that you're preaching one of the last hopes of a rapidly decaying videogame industry but you're not. You're just someone with another opinion.

If you were trying to run a business with unknown number of hackers always trying to be a step ahead of you and steal your products or ruin your services for their own personal gains what would you do? Keep fighting the same fight until the end of time? Because your solution isn't realistic or efficient.

If you're just going to be stubborn and only think of them as the "evil corporate bastards" then we're done here.
 

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Now...if they've been withholding information and knew this was stolen last week...that's a dick move and Sony's at fault for not informing us ASAP.
maybe they only got the information recently
 

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Awexsome said:
Good ol' hackers. Fighting for your consumer rights against the evil corporation that takes away your rights...

Oh wait they have been douchebags the whole time in this case. Nevermind. Fuck you Geohotz for probably causing all this by releasing that code. If not then you certainly encouraged it.
How do you gather that the PSN hacking has something to do with the actions of Geohotz? Installing Linux - essentially turning your PS3 into a regular computer - doesn't necessarily lead to PSN being hacked. Now it's true that some people speculate Anonymous did this in the name of Geohotz, but remember that Geohotz and Sony settled out of court. There'd be no reason for Anon to intervene. Sure there've been a few videos released on youtube supposedly from them, but how can we know those videos are really from them? They're Anonymous after all. It could just be some prankster playing a joke. And how was Geohotz supposed to know this was going to happen?

And not all hackers can be lumped under "good" or "bad". That's like assuming all construction workers are bad just because one of them kills a man with a rivet gun one day. Some hackers might enjoy fighting for consumer rights, but some of them probably just want to steal money. Hackers are just people who know how to break into things through the internet. They're individuals. Random citizens each with their own motivations. No different than you or I. They have a skill, and they all use that skill for their own reasons.

Sure this could have been done by Anonymous, but you've gotta admit, it would be uncharacteristic of them to go this far. It could just as easily have been done by an illegal immigrant out to steal your identity.
 

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Okay, I have to throw in my two cents here, to everyone saying 'down with hackers' 'this is geohotz's fault' 'who supports hackers now??'

Let me clarify something for you all, Geohotz, who modified a system in order to increase it's potential did NOT enable this in anyway. Hackers in general, are not malicious, they create, they program, they aren't 'bad' at all, they help actually. Now CRACKERS on the other hand, destroy. These cyber criminals weren't hackers at all, they didn't create anything or modify anything for the betterment of it. They destroyed their way into the PSN, and retrieved sensitive information. Stop acting like you know what you're talking about when you talk about hackers, Geohotz was a hacker, or a modder to whoever wants to call him that, not a cracker. Don't act like crackers are expected to be 'better' than this either, it's called crime, and just because it's over the internet doesn't make it any less malicious.
Sorry, because I messed up because I didn't know something, I am a pretentious idiot that doesn't know what he's talking about.
Do you really think that Geohotz's leaking of the code didn't affect this at all?
Also: Hackers Hack, is hacking my info not hacking?
 

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Well, my email that I used to sign up for the PSN just got used to send out a metric-crapton of spam. Fortunately I didn't use that same password for anything important. I'm actually surprised I even used it for the PSN. I guess I wasn't paying attention since I only used it on my PSP which I almost never connect to the internet.

At least I've never bought anything over the PSN, so my credit cards are safe. Still, that sucks.