Sony Admits Private PSN Info Has Been Stolen - All Of It

[LordOfTheDance]

Well if this would have happened a few months ago I would never have bought my PS3. I am incredibly grateful that I didn't use my standard username, passwords on PSN. Though I do not like the idea that someone out there has an answer to my security questions.

Sony better pray that whoever the hackers are don't use this information or they are going to be facing a massive class action suit.

Good luck everyone out there.

 

[jakefongloo]

Good ol' hackers. Fighting for your consumer rights against the evil corporation that takes away your rights...

Oh wait they have been douchebags the whole time in this case. Nevermind. Fuck you Geohotz for probably causing all this by releasing that code. If not then you certainly encouraged it.

lol... blaming geohotz

when will you wake up out of your fanboyism and try to hold sony accountable

lol... blaming Sony...

when will you wake up out of your blind hatred and try to hold his actions accountable?

lol... blaming flaming penguins

when will you people wake up out of your ignorant stupor and try to hold the space alien hitlers accountable.

MADLIB TIME!

 

[NaramSuen]

Hah... Sucks to be other people right now. I stay away from all that PSN/XBL business personally.

Side note: It's amazing to see how fast people turn on hackers.

*hacker breaks into Sony website*
Person: Yeah! Awesome! Stick it to those corporate whores!
*hacker brings down company network*
Person: Cool! Wreck as much shit as you can!
*hacker accesses public records*
Person: Umm... What are you doing man? I'm on your side!
*hacker steals credit card information*
Person: JESUS CHRIST SONY! WHY DIDN'T YOU STOP THIS?
*hacker buys a yacht*
Person: Can... I come for a ride?
Hacker: No.

In your quest to support the little guy against the major corporation, you put your faith in scum and have been predictably kicked in the dick.

It's kind of like an inverse Star Wars prequel situation, where Emperor Palpatine (Sony) was garnering power from the senate (users). Only in this version, the senate endorsed their power away from Palpatine and gave it to a **** named Jar Jar Binks (hacker) who predictably abused it and fucked everyone over without prejudice.

You should call me M. Night Shyamalan because:

YOU DESERVE THIS.

This is a little harsh. Innocent people have had their personal information stolen, are facing potential real world loss to their pocketbooks and you are blaming the victim! What do you do for fun when you aren't here, hang around police stations mocking the people who have been mugged or attacked?

 

[Harry Mason]

It's a good thing I don't use card numbers or my real name or address on XBox Live, PSN, or anywhere on the internet in general. My conspiracy theories have all just been confirmed, and I can smugly sip my White Russian tonight, safe in the knowledge that my paranoia has payed off.

My only real concern is that all my other PS3 brothers and sisters might be in trouble. I hope this doesn't have the effect of making all the XBox fanboys and girls jump up and scream "AHA! PROOF THAT THE PS3 SUCKS!"

Gits.

Sadly, it's happening everywhere. My xbox playing buddies have been teasing me about it for days now.

One thing those people need to keep in mind is that Sony is a primarily a company that makes TVs and stereo systems. The reason XBox will never get hacked it that it's parent company is fucking MICROSOFT. Hell, the computers Sony used to make the PSN were probably made by Microsoft.

Yes, it seems that Sony needed better security, but blaming them for this is like blaming a person for having their house robbed because they didn't bar the doors tightly enough. There is no way Sony wanted this, and the fault will ALWAYS lie with the hackers.

You put too much faith in microsoft, my friend. XD

I thought XBOX (the console, not XBL) gets hacked all the time. And microsoft hardware is hardly reliable.

That's true. Wait, does this mean that this is Sony's Red Ring of death? Hah!

 

[Eclectic Dreck]

Wow... I feel bad for Sony, they are gonna get lot's of shit for this.

They will deservedly get a lot of shit for this.

 

[II2none]

yet another reason why bots should be in more multiplayer games. glad i dont have a PSN, surprised this hasn't been looked into with the news stations.

 

[RA92]

Actually, XBox owners who pay for their XBL accounts are gloating way more than PC gamers.

 

[Entreri481]

Good going, Sony.

Your system is about as stable and secure as... something instable and insecure.

A three legged table?

 

[Discord]

I just have a curious question... I NEVER once put any Credit Card info on my PS3 account. All I use was those Prepaid Cards - Should I worry or there is NO way it can be traced to my REAL account?

As for the Info and stuff I always put fake info for that So no worries there.

 

[Eclectic Dreck]

No, actually. Just because the PS3 is called "Sony Computer Entertainment System", doesn't make it a "computer". Apple makes computers. Microsoft makes computers. The Xbox 360 is a VIDEO GAME CONSOLE. Not a computer. The PS3 is a VIDEO GAME CONSOLE. Not a computer. The Nintendo Wii is a VIDEO GAME CONSOLE. Not a computer.

The PS3, Xbox 360, and almost any other console you care to name is a universal computational device. That simply means that anything that can be computed can be computed by such a device given enough time and access to memory. That they are built to perform very specific kinds of computations is irrelevant in the regard because they are capable of performing every kind of computation.

 

[Jason Danger Keyes]

You all realize that Microsoft could be next, right?

 

[Owyn_Merrilin]

Good going, Sony.

Your system is about as stable and secure as... something instable and insecure.

A three legged table?

Nah, those are pretty stable; maybe a schizophrenic gamer who just had his hobby questioned by Fox News? (Yes, I went there.)

 

[callmegreen]

THANK GOD!!! I USE PSN POINT CARDS XD !!! but whatever my email password is diff and I just got a new phone number so whatever if they know my adress and zip code... fuckin pizza hut know's my adress and zipcode XD

 

[pokepuke]

I'm not a pretentious git. I sound like one, but I'm not.

Second, you are right about me being wrong about the hacking history.

Third, which hacker groups are you refereeing to, and which hacks?

Fourth, it is still worth noting that Hotz drew attention to the ps3 (and the network thereof). That has been my point from the start. Even if the ps3 had been hacked before, it wasn't publicized as much as the hotz issue. You were right, the hacking was there to start with. But I'd bet my buck that Hotz made things worse, and because of the lawsuit, the story got rubbed everywhere. I don't wan't to confuse causation with correlation, but I think there is a reason the PSN was compromised when it was. Perhaps you are right in saying that I can't assume that hotz is the only cause, but I will refine my argument no further than this: Hotz's actions play some role in this. I mean, do you seriously think this would have happened when and how it did if the the whole situation with Hotz had never happened?

Yes.

It's possible it didn't even happen all that recently. They might have just found out about it last week.

And why would GeoHotz be to blame? He helped PS3 hackers in their efforts to run Linux. This doesn't affect any network. Maybe the buzz about the issue somehow raise the ire of other hackers and they directed there efforts toward Sony, but why? It wouldn't have been a big story if Sony wasn't retarded enough to go around suing several people for tinkering with their own consoles. And why steal personal info and possibly credit card info as well? Only thieves do that for identity theft. None of this makes any sense within the paradigm you're offering.

All this talk about GeoHotz is quite funny. I mean, it's not like he held a conference [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/106511-Hacker-Group-Gives-Video-Tour-of-PS3-Security-System] about the status of how obscenely hacked the PS3 currently is or anything.

There is also a huge gap between any of those things and the PlayStation Network. Anonymous even said "woops, we'll back off from that" because they had no intention of affecting users, they just wanted to bug Sony over how they were being douchebags.

Still looking like completely separate incidents.

 

[The Lugz]

Wow... I feel bad for Sony, they are gonna get lot's of shit for this.

They will deservedly get a lot of shit for this.

Agreed, if it's true and they really let everyone's details loose on the network for people to steal there's going to be an endless stream of hate towards them
and deservedly so.
if it's even remotely possible to access people's 'secure' information via a console then that's just a terrible system.

if it turns out to be a false alarm they're going to get it for inconveniencing people and that kind-of isn't fair, because they're trying to prevent more damage

if it's some kind of ploy by sony to turn the community on software crackers, and the whole thing is a big ball of fluff, then they deserve all the sheets you can fling at them.

 

[Epic Fail 1977]

Wow. I'm no economics expert but I bet Sony's share price is falling like a brick.

On the up side at least they owned up to it and told everyone the full extent of the damage to their privacy. Some companies would have tried to deny that any private data had been compromised at all.

 

[mireko]

I just have a curious question... I NEVER once put any Credit Card info on my PS3 account. All I use was those Prepaid Cards - Should I worry or there is NO way it can be traced to my REAL account?

As for the Info and stuff I always put fake info for that So no worries there.

Prepaid cards as in PSN cards? That should be safe. Not sure what they would trace back to.

The most important thing is making sure you didn't have an active credit card on the account and that you didn't use the PSN password for anything else on the internet. If you did, change those passwords as soon as possible. This applies to security questions as well.

Also beware phishers.

Basically this.

 

[jakefongloo]

Funny, I'd put him as Chaotic Good -- doing the right thing, regardless of what the law says or what the consequences may be. Because yes, people own the hardware they buy, and they do have every right to do with it as they please.

No, that's just being an obnoxious, elitist jerk. He wasn't "doing the right thing" at all, because it's not even remotely a moral thing to do. He's not a hero, or a saint, or anything helpful to the industry that PROVIDES us with games. With your logic, I won't be surprised if the games industry dies off and designers lose interest in supporting their games because of people like GeoHotz and people who support his stupidity..

Hey, from my point of view, protecting consumer rights from greedy corporations is inarguably good. I'm sorry you've let anti-piracy rhetoric brainwash you to the point that you don't see it that way.

Anarchism (which is what pirating is or at least causes) has never ONCE in history worked. Oh sure it glamorous, but nothing ever gets produced only recycled.

I've seen you post alot about this whole anti establishment horse doodle, I would argue that you've been brainwashed by the underdog. Every one of the points you've made has been made about something else in time. It's a game of coherant madlibs (why is that on my mind lately?).

Capatalism works. Stealing does not. If a company really is stealing then it will die out too. God damn this point has been made millions of times. Rockerfeller stole his industry was trashed. Enron stole their industry is gone. I would list some corporations that do work honest to goodness and by being better, but you probably would call them evil and greedy just because they're bigger buisness.

The people who put out these laws don't try to oppress you despite what you've been told. They didn't think while putting in "right to own intellectual property" "hur hur this will get all those middle class and lower assholes". The fact of the matter is Sony worked it's ass off to get where it is today. And it's so FUCKING easy to pretend Sony is just a faceless void of money and greed. Sony has probably hundreds of thousand employees who enjoy their jobs. Guys and girls with families and little puppy dogs. Why do they have to be punished by this?

Now, because some fucker with a mesiah complex believes he has a right to money that took Sony decades to build up to, there's a good chance every single person who works in the gaming division is going to get fired. Because no one is going to trust Sony and I'm not going to buy the next console, not after this.

Sony slipped up, bummer, but you don't get second chances in big industries. Do you think it's going to be the president whos going to get hit by this? NO! It's going to be the bottom rungers. The mailmen guys and the customer service guys. Fred who says hi to Jim every day. They're both going to be gone. This is why hacking and piracy doesn't work. It hurts everyone but the target. FUCK I'M SICK OF TYPING THIS!

Bottom line- Underdogs and cuntnugget douchebags are 2 different things. Sorry for typing out that damn novel of words.

 

[Owyn_Merrilin]

Funny, I'd put him as Chaotic Good -- doing the right thing, regardless of what the law says or what the consequences may be. Because yes, people own the hardware they buy, and they do have every right to do with it as they please.

No, that's just being an obnoxious, elitist jerk. He wasn't "doing the right thing" at all, because it's not even remotely a moral thing to do. He's not a hero, or a saint, or anything helpful to the industry that PROVIDES us with games. With your logic, I won't be surprised if the games industry dies off and designers lose interest in supporting their games because of people like GeoHotz and people who support his stupidity..

Hey, from my point of view, protecting consumer rights from greedy corporations is inarguably good. I'm sorry you've let anti-piracy rhetoric brainwash you to the point that you don't see it that way.

Anarchism (which is what pirating is or at least causes) has never ONCE in history worked. Oh sure it glamorous, but nothing ever gets produced only recycled.

I've seen you post alot about this whole anti establishment horse doodle, I would argue that you've been brainwashed by the underdog. Every one of the points you've made has been made about something else in time. It's a game of coherant madlibs (why is that on my mind lately?).

Capatalism works. Stealing does not. If a company really is stealing then it will die out too. God damn this point has been made millions of times. Rockerfeller stole his industry was trashed. Enron stole their industry is gone. I would list some corporations that do work honest to goodness and by being better, but you probably would call them evil and greedy just because they're bigger buisness.

The people who put out these laws don't try to oppress you despite what you've been told. They didn't think while putting in "right to own intellectual property" "hur hur this will get all those middle class and lower assholes". The fact of the matter is Sony worked it's ass off to get where it is today. And it's so FUCKING easy to pretend Sony is just a faceless void of money and greed. Sony has probably hundreds of thousand employees who enjoy their jobs. Guys and girls with families and little puppy dogs. Why do they have to be punished by this?

Now, because some fucker with a mesiah complex believes he has a right to money that took Sony decades to build up to, there's a good chance every single person who works in the gaming division is going to get fired. Because no one is going to trust Sony and I'm not going to buy the next console, not after this.

Sony slipped up, bummer, but you don't get second chances in big industries. Do you think it's going to be the president whos going to get hit by this? NO! It's going to be the bottom rungers. The mailmen guys and the customer service guys. Fred who says hi to Jim every day. They're both going to be gone. This is why hacking and piracy doesn't work. It hurts everyone but the target. FUCK I'M SICK OF TYPING THIS!

Bottom line- Underdogs and cuntnugget douchebags are 2 different things. Sorry for typing out that damn novel of words.

I did not advocate piracy. What I'm saying is that companies are taking away basic consumer rights in the name of fighting piracy, and people are just accepting it because piracy is bad. What part of the word "rhetoric" do you people not understand? Because you aren't the first person to quote me on this.

Edit: I'm also not anti-establishment or pro-piracy. What I am is pro-consumer, a stance that is occasionally opposed to a pro-business stance. I'm not some 14 year old kid who just discovered economics.

Edit Edit: Also, Rockefeller's industry was going strong throughout his entire life; it's not huge now because technology has moved on. Enron's industry is, likewise, doing just fine, only Enron itself went down. But here's the rub: Corporations are greedy by definition. It's just bad capitalism not to be. It is the duty of consumers to watch out for instances when corporations overreach and start infringing on consumer rights, and it's a duty that many gamers have been negligent in. What part of recognizing that there is a constant struggle between consumers and producers is anarchistic? Marxist, maybe, but then Marx actually laid the foundations for entire schools of thought in economics, history, and psychology -- and they are accepted schools, even in the US. Marxist historians are actually quite common, and I should know, having been required to read a great deal of Marxist history for my degree.

Final edit: Excuse me again, I had Rockefeller confused with Carnegie. Rockefeller's industry is one of the world's biggest to this very day, and also one of the most greedy; gas prices have more to do with a combination of speculators betting on and OPEC manipulating the supply than they do with the policies of any American president.