Sony Admits Private PSN Info Has Been Stolen - All Of It

[erbkaiser]

CC is canceled, hope I won't get into problems with Amazon/Paypal/etc. in the mean time while I need to wait for a new one. Sony won't be getting my info again, guess I'll need to use the prepaid cards from now on.
I wish Sony supported Paypal, ClickandBuy, Ideal, or some other reliable payment provider as an option rather than forcing us to choose between handing over info to them or buying physical little cards in advance.

Hope that if they catch the guilty party that he is not going to white-collar resort prison. No, no, no. He's going to federal POUND ME IN THE ASS prison.

 

[FamoFunk]

A dear frind of mine, who is a PS3 user, is saying this is Sony's fault for takinf away Linux... and they deserved it?

Can someone please help me with that the fuck he's on about?

I'm sorry to be the one to tell you, but your friend is a whackjob. What happens if Linux finally becomes obsolete and unsupported? Why should Sony keep providing an outdated OS when they can add a much better one to new systems?

Nothing states that they HAVE GOT TO PROVIDE LINUX OMG WTF.. It's THEIR service. It may be YOUR console, but THEY provide your access to it. Microsoft and Nintendo can do the very same to their own consoles! There's going to be content that just isn't needed on the system anymore. Especially if it's basically just modders/hackers using it.. I know when I buy a console, I'm not looking for an operating system. I want a console that plays games and can possibly watch Bluray/DVD movies. That's what they have been for many, many years..

Hehehh, I kept telling him he was, I have a PS3, but knew nothing about Linux being on there, so I don't care. He said he never used, so I dunno why he's kicking up a fuss :/

Either way, I kinda want free shit as an apology, I don't care that the service was free. It's shoddy.

 

[Korolev]

Wow - it's a good thing I used the store cards instead of a credit card. Okay, that's it - I'm never linking my credit card to ANYTHING online every again if I can help it.

Also, in the future, EVERY single online store MUST have an option that allows the user to delete ANY financial information on it. I don't want a single store remembering my credit card info from now on.

As for who is responsible for this..... no one really knows. People are saying "It's Anonymous", as if Anonymous was some sort of centralized group. Certain individual groups CALLING themselves Anonymous could have done this, sure. But ANYONE can call themselves Anonymous. THAT'S THE POINT OF THE NAME.

My money is on professional criminals/hackers - people who make their living hacking into bank accounts or socially engineering ways to get passwords. They are really clever and they are really determined to steal money. It might have been a criminal gang linked to organized crime. In that case, we'll probably NEVER know who was really behind this. Should Sony have had better security? Well, hindsight's 20/20. If you have a determined enough group of hackers, virtually NO system is secure.

And Geohot probably had nothing to do with this. His code allowed for homebrew and piracy - not hacking a multi-million dollar secure network and stealing the data from it. Maybe, just maybe, his code allowed for nefarious criminals to upload a program to exploit the PSN, but even so that's hardly his own fault - Sony should have had the brains to prevent something like that. Once again, follow the money - who stands to gain from this? Criminal groups who harvest and sell credit card info. Who has the resources to pull this off? Again, professional criminal gangs to harvest and sell credit card info. Who has a history of hacking major networks and has the expertise to do so? Again, major criminal networks to make their living off doing something like this.

SHORT VERSION: Unidentified criminals have hacked the PSN to try to get Credit Card Info and Financial info. PSN is down. Sony should have probably, maybe, done a bit more to prevent this. Lesson: never store your real financial data on the PSN again, or any other game network. Any other details are PURE SPECULATION.

 

[Conza]

Wouldn't it be hilarious if it was George Hotz who stole the info?

Wouldn't it be even funnier if George Hotz ended up being found in a ditch with a couple of bullets in his head?

YES! Haha, I seriously laughed when I read that 'Die George Hotz! Die!'... Ahh, I hate you George, and I don't really know you either.

 

[Korolev]

Oh and PSN + subscribers definitely deserve compensation, since they paid for their membership and they can't use it. As for regular PSN users - as much as we would like compensation, Sony aren't going to give it. They're not legally entitled to. I would like a free game just as much as anyone, but the odds on that are slim. Since it was.... ya know, FREE, we didn't actually lose any money or suffer any real damage from the PSN blackout, so they are not legally bound to give us anything.

Still it would be nice if they did.

 

[maddog015]

So, when do the lawsuits begin?

 

[LightspeedJack]

Shit we used a credit card to buy stuff off the PSN.

 

[kebab4you]

Oh and PSN + subscribers definitely deserve compensation, since they paid for their membership and they can't use it. As for regular PSN users - as much as we would like compensation, Sony aren't going to give it. They're not legally entitled to. I would like a free game just as much as anyone, but the odds on that are slim. Since it was.... ya know, FREE, we didn't actually lose any money or suffer any real damage from the PSN blackout, so they are not legally bound to give us anything.

Still it would be nice if they did.

I looked threw the eula for PSN but couldn't find the part but a user said something about that in the eula that sony agrees to protect your information that you had shared with them. And as thus couldn't you sue them because they don't hold there part of the agreement? (again said by user and it might not be in the eula).

 

[superbatranger]

This is one of the few times I'm glad I don't have a PS3. Dodged that bullet.

 

[rockoffanddie]

Certain People on this site seem to assume that sony pretty much handed the hackers our (and i do mean OUR) personal information. They were HACKED, what do people seem to misunderstand about that? It is not their fault that some douchebag broke into the system and took the information.

Also how simple do people seem to believe investigating an intrusion into a system as large as the playstation network is? Sony were investigating the break-in during the initial period of the down-time, discovered the loss of data and reported it soon afterwards. What possible reason could sony have for sitting on the knowledge that personal information, possibly including credit card data, had been taken? Seriously?

I will concede that sony's lack of an ETA regarding when the network will be coming back on line is a bit annoying, but i would rather they take their time and do a good job than for them to rush the rebuild and arse it up.

 

[GeekFury]

I am soooo happy I got a 360 instead of a PS3 when I had the choice, don't get -this- with Microsoft.

 

[Azure-Supernova]

Last time I checked I took my billing information from when my cousin logged in, how conveniant that I have an appointment with my bank at 4 to change my digits anyway. But this kinda sucks for the people that do have their information stored on their PSN accounts.

 

[johnnnny guitar]

Well Thats Just FUCKING Great

Thanks alot sony thanks alot

 

[Azure-Supernova]

I am soooo happy I got a 360 instead of a PS3 when I had the choice, don't get -this- with Microsoft.

Really? [http://kotaku.com/#!245887/xbox-live-hacked-accounts-stolen]

Thanks alot sony thanks alot

Refer to below post. Not you personally, but everyone else who is loading the blame on to Sony themselves.

That's the problem, rather a lot of people don't understand how websites and networks actually work. It's not like you can triple-plus magic-super-secret encrypt data and it becomes invulnerable, networks can always be hacked, always. This kind of thing actually happens far more often than people think but most times it's not reported because the hackers blackmail the company for them not to do it, the reason being that the data you can extract isn't all that valuable to you, there's not actually an awful lot you can do with it. most times the company pays them off and the hackers don't actually have any personal interest in following through.

Besides, this is why new encryption techniques and protocols are developed, no method of security is always going to work. For example I bet a few of the people here are still using WEP encryption on their wireless. Well WEP has been declared 'unfit for purpose' because it's now useless for serious encryption.

[sincerity] And you sir are level headed. Well done. [/sincerity]

 

[witheringsanity]

Just because there is still street crime doesn't make it fair to deem the police incompetent.

yes it does. well, in my opinion anyway. if i get mugged cause some cop decided that pulling over a hot chick or stopping at a dunkin donuts was more important than his job, you'd better believe i'd be pissed. same deal here. sony wanted to get it's online up and running quick, and saved money by skimping on security. i mean i dont think any system can be truly "unhackable", but too have all our info and passwords in clear type? not even encrypted? that means they didn't give a shit, and were busy eatin donuts on our dime.

 

[The_Yeti]

It couldn't be Microsoft, Bill Gates would activate his epic virus which would immediately destroy the hackers equipment, mother, father, brothers/sisters, cousins, aunts, uncles, pets, his/hers relatives pets, graves of past relatives, and whatever cities they resided in. o.o

 

[Woodsey]

Just because there is still street crime doesn't make it fair to deem the police incompetent.

yes it does. well, in my opinion anyway. if i get mugged cause some cop decided that pulling over a hot chick or stopping at a dunkin donuts was more important than his job, you'd better believe i'd be pissed. same deal here. sony wanted to get it's online up and running quick, and saved money by skimping on security. i mean i dont think any system can be truly "unhackable", but too have all our info and passwords in clear type? not even encrypted? that means they didn't give a shit, and were busy eatin donuts on our dime.

Where have they said the passwords weren't encrypted? Anyway, I'm not sure what world the rest of you live in where you assume systems are hack-proof.

Also, my point: The existence of police does not guarantee the absence of crime.

Your point: Poor police are absolutely to blame when crime happens and they didn't do enough.

We're arguing different points.

 

[johnnnny guitar]

I am soooo happy I got a 360 instead of a PS3 when I had the choice, don't get -this- with Microsoft.

Really? [http://kotaku.com/#!245887/xbox-live-hacked-accounts-stolen]

Thanks alot sony thanks alot

Refer to below post. Not you personally, but everyone else who is loading the blame on to Sony themselves.

That's the problem, rather a lot of people don't understand how websites and networks actually work. It's not like you can triple-plus magic-super-secret encrypt data and it becomes invulnerable, networks can always be hacked, always. This kind of thing actually happens far more often than people think but most times it's not reported because the hackers blackmail the company for them not to do it, the reason being that the data you can extract isn't all that valuable to you, there's not actually an awful lot you can do with it. most times the company pays them off and the hackers don't actually have any personal interest in following through.

Besides, this is why new encryption techniques and protocols are developed, no method of security is always going to work. For example I bet a few of the people here are still using WEP encryption on their wireless. Well WEP has been declared 'unfit for purpose' because it's now useless for serious encryption.

[sincerity] And you sir are level headed. Well done. [/sincerity]

You now I did a long reply quote but I accidently deleted it so Im just gonna say screw you escapist not letting my Control and Z button work together