Sony Admits Private PSN Info Has Been Stolen - All Of It

[BOBdotEXE]

hmmm... birth day and address?
.. any chance this is some elaborate surprise birthday party for all PSN users?

 

[ikoian]

Good thing I never grabbed anything via debit card. Even then, Id only use PSN cards.
What's with everyone blaming Sony? These are obviously serious cyber criminals intent on stealing user information and could have just as easily hacked Amazon or Steam.

 

[harvz]

um, how long after they realized that it was being taken down from a 3rd party was the info stolen? it seems obvious to me that the most appropriate security feature would be to remove the servers that are storing information that could cause problems (mainly card details) from all networks as soon as you realize that its another party. i mean, their agreement protects them from everything apparently so why not protect themselves from millions of potential lawsuits due to the info being taken and them failing to protect it.

on side note, i like being safe with great pc and 360.

 

[Owyn_Merrilin]

Possible hacker chat-logs. [http://lo-ping.org/2011/04/26/psn-hackers-chat-logs/]

If what it says in that link is true, CC-info was transmitted and stored in plain text (although over SSL). To say that differently, it was never even encrypted!


Sony. Fucked. Up.

I wonder where they got this chat log; it looks legitimate in that it reads like an actual chat log, and the technical talk, which is admittedly over my head for large sections, doesn't seem to be blatantly made up. Also, despite what the author of the blog post said, I definitely got a white hat hacker vibe off of the chat log; if it's real, and the people in the chat are the people who pulled off the hack, they'll probably take better care of the info than Sony did.

 

[Foxbat Flyer]

I never got notification... I checked all my email accounts, and not one email about this... Damn sony, first time they have let me down

 

[Nikolaz72]

Also guys- relax. Its just all of your personal information that might be at risk, nothing important.

 

[Nexus4]

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I never once said it was not entirely Sony's fault, you are right the system should have been much more secure than it was. It is just naive to think that a company/bank or whatever could create a completely hack-proof system, especially considering the hacking tools out there and the creativity of the people behind them. To use an analogy, what your saying is like: the police being blamed for someone's murder, because they were killed where there were no security cameras. The area should have been better protected, but no one has the resources to cover every square inch of ground to ensure something like this never happens. Yet everyone still blames the law enforcement rather than the actual murderer for the death. What you are saying is that hackers have no part in this, you are being hypocritical by blaming other who are defending Sony by pinning the blame entirely on Sony and none on the hackers who cracked the system in the first place.

 

[Trippy Turtle]

well.... does anyone have anymore ideas on who it was? i have only heard anonymous and thejester mentioned. well anyway thank god i have xbox

 

[King of the Sandbox]

At least it's not the RROD, amirite guise?

lol

But in all seriousness, sucks to be a PS3 player right now.

 

[BrunDeign]

I feel terrible for all the PS3 owners out there. Hopefully your personal information isn't abused.

Also I have never, in the 4 years that I've been here, seen a topic get this much traffic.

*claps*

If only it was something more uplifting.

 

[Brad Shepard]

Xbox 360 master race reporting in.

Just kidding, sorry for all ps3 users for Sony being well, dumnasses.

 

[Lectori Salutem]

Glad I'm horribly behind on hardware and still enjoying my PS2.

 

[headshotcatcher]

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Yes, it was Sony who put PSN down and stole all your credit card information. They basically gave the info away, right?

No they didn't, it got HACKED, I.E gotten through illegitimate means.. Sony can't do anything about it, and that's why PSN is down and they're designing a new network now.

Is it 'Sony stole your credit card information'? No. It's 'Hackers stole your credit card information'.

Besides, if you do believe it's Sony's fault, you're the one who gave them the credit card information in the first place.. (yes I know that's a fallacy but think about it )

I completely know its the hackers fault but its Sonys gaming online service, you believe it would be secure.

Also I was complaining that they had taken a week to tell people that there information may have been stolen, why did they take this F'ing long? They should have apoligised, explained and admitted their faults and their plans from the start, not hide them like a small boy whos trying to lie to his parents.

If it's only a small possibility that info was stolen, it's not worth it to say that it might have been, because that will only cause chaos and/or uproar. Besides, as I said to the previous guy: it has existed for 5 years and it has taken that long for any serious hacking to happen.
Not to mention, they did try their best to keep security high (but that wasn't met with happiness from consumers either, exhibit A: the firmware uproar)

Besides, is it even possible for a worldwide company to be have 100% security? Especially in the digital world...

 

[McNinja]

I don't know what credit card is linked to my PSN account, or if there is even one linked to it at all. I've never gotten anything off of the PSN, so I don't think there is. And I forgot my password. If it is the one I'm thinking of, I use it for almost everything. This is just balls.

However, if I managed to attach my credit card to my account, the hackers, or anyone who gets the number, can't use it, because I have $21 in the account and the card auto-declines anything over that amount. Yay?

 

[headshotcatcher]

You know, I was going to use this [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyRHHlt3M] on you, but I can discern a single coherent statement out of your comment there.

I'm not blaming Sony for this, I'm blaming the hackers. Furthermore why the hell would you say this is our faults?
Now listen to me carefully... We gave our information to purchase things on PSN IN GOOD FAITH THAT THIS WOULDN'T HAPPEN!

This is NOT our faults, this is Sony's fault for not having a secure enough system.
Even if you "think about it " this is still not our faults. Sony should have had a secure enough system for this to not happen. Sure you can't have a completely foolproof system but you can sure as hell have a better one than what Sony had.
I'm sorry if I'm coming off as furious, but comments like this piss me right off.

If you shop at Amazon.com and you use your card to buy something and then Amazon is hacked it is not your fucking fault.


.... goosefrabaaaa.....

Okay, I'm calm now.

I was saying (or trying to say) that it's as much Sony's fault as it is your fault. You're both victims here, remember..
Besides, PSN has existed for 5 years and it has taken that long for any serious hacking to happen.
Not to mention, they did try their best to keep security high (but that wasn't met with happiness from consumers either, exhibit A: the firmware uproar)

Besides, is it even possible for a worldwide company to be have 100% security? Especially in the digital world...

 

[xx19kilosoldier]

The cost of doing business for Sony is the risk of becoming civilly liable ,if its networks get hacked, for its customers information etc.

If any of you think that Sony can just release a few statements and "fix" their security issues and NOT be civilly liable, you dont know what you are talking about.

If Sony's users information is used in bank fraud/identity theft, Sony will become liable to pay damages. Dont believe me, go goggle past similar cases.

So all of you who come in this thread and bash the end user and exonerate Sony have NO CLUE what you are talking about.

Sony shares equal blame in the eyes of the law in so far as damages caused to its customers over this breach.

 

[HigherTomorrow]

I think the credit cards linked with my PSN account have all expired or been de-linked, any way I can check which credit cards have been linked to PSN?

 

[Torque669]

Wow ... This is just horrendous. They waited a week to tell anyone this, the flippin' idiots ... I dont know how PS3 "fanboys" can even attempt to rectify this. I heard arguments saying that it was "Free" and as such "Shouldnt complain its down" but just because its free doesnt mean people should lose credit card information.

I cant even come up with any idea how Sony are going to make this up to their customers.

Woa calm down. Its hardly Sony's fault they got hacked. They did the right thing shutting down shop so quickly. Frankly as long as they can get this sorted then I'm fine loosing PSN for a while.
Yeah maybe sony should have told us sooner about this cos it is pretty big news, but either way its not like Sony was asleep at the wheel. They're doing everything they can to sort it out.

Also. Don't be bringing in your Anti Sony stuff just cos your a fan boy of -Console X-.

Im not actually, I use the Playstation, hence why Im annoyed that this happened. And yes, I understand that they're doing all they can to stop this and are even improving the network as whole to make it much better but why didnt they just come out with all this at the start, apoligise and get on with fixing it, why they would wait this long doesnt make sense to me.

Wow ... This is just horrendous. They waited a week to tell anyone this, the flippin' idiots ... I dont know how PS3 "fanboys" can even attempt to rectify this. I heard arguments saying that it was "Free" and as such "Shouldnt complain its down" but just because its free doesnt mean people should lose credit card information.

I cant even come up with any idea how Sony are going to make this up to their customers.

I am a PS3 fan, but don't forget that we didn't know about the detail theft until now. Trust me, no one is going to try and rectify this, Sony fucked up big time though I am also heavily pissed off at the Hackers for doing it in the first place.

And finally, someone who realises that its not just the hackers fault and not just Sonys. The hackers are bastards for doing all this, but they wouldnt have been able too if they didnt have an oppurtunity and "we" didnt know about the detail theft till now because they hadnt told us. Surely they must have known from the start.