Sony Explains Why Controller-Free Gaming Won't Work
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I think I enjoy the narrative experience that games provide much more than the controller I use to play it.
While gameplay is definitely a big part of a game, I think that a game that can combine great and seemingly non-repetitive gameplay, great narrative story, great control scheme for whatever task you're doing, and add in great visuals and great sound, will be the best game ever made.
Until they invent the holodeck, of course.
While gameplay is definitely a big part of a game, I think that a game that can combine great and seemingly non-repetitive gameplay, great narrative story, great control scheme for whatever task you're doing, and add in great visuals and great sound, will be the best game ever made.
Until they invent the holodeck, of course.
Obvious, petty mudslinging aside, it goes without saying that a control-system like Kinect or the Eyetoy are going to be limited to shallow gameplay. They simply lack the fundamentals to input complex directions that a controller with buttons provides. Even Move suffers because it still compromises on the number of buttons or analog sticks for input in exchange for the motion control.
The potential control applications with motion-based systems hit a wall when movement alone cannot allow for an easy enough transfer of detailed information based on the limitations of being confined to the camera or motion controller restrictions. One cannot accurately have a simple control scheme to double jump, roundhouse kick an enemy across the room, and land sword-tip down on a second opponent using a camera tracking device. The Wii-mote and thesexSony Wand have buttons to allow some more leeway for the user's limitations, it still is going to feel weird trying to mix both motion-control and button-pressing in some scenarios.
While I am no fan of either Microsoft's or Sony's motion peripherals, I give credit to Sony for at least maintaining a growing base of games not strictly reliant on Move. As an owner of both systems, I feel as though Microsoft is neglecting any other facet of gaming besides Kinect and its launch titles while riding on the scant remainder of "AAA" titles it has to offer. I do not pay for Live, making Halo Reach a rental, and I found Fable III to be worse than its former title[footnote]I enjoyed Fable II for what it is and had a decent enough time with it.[/footnote], so I am left with the impression that Microsoft is laser-targeting most of its resources on its gamble on Kinect.
The potential control applications with motion-based systems hit a wall when movement alone cannot allow for an easy enough transfer of detailed information based on the limitations of being confined to the camera or motion controller restrictions. One cannot accurately have a simple control scheme to double jump, roundhouse kick an enemy across the room, and land sword-tip down on a second opponent using a camera tracking device. The Wii-mote and the
While I am no fan of either Microsoft's or Sony's motion peripherals, I give credit to Sony for at least maintaining a growing base of games not strictly reliant on Move. As an owner of both systems, I feel as though Microsoft is neglecting any other facet of gaming besides Kinect and its launch titles while riding on the scant remainder of "AAA" titles it has to offer. I do not pay for Live, making Halo Reach a rental, and I found Fable III to be worse than its former title[footnote]I enjoyed Fable II for what it is and had a decent enough time with it.[/footnote], so I am left with the impression that Microsoft is laser-targeting most of its resources on its gamble on Kinect.
didn't sony try and pull the same crap when they trashed talked the Nintendo 3ds and said some BS about 3D glasses being the best way to have 3d? seems they are being childish really. although in THIS case i kind of have to agree to a point
Sony's the worst about it, it makes me almost ashamed that admit that I buy their products.Vanguard_Ex said:
OT: The eyetoy could have been wonderful, but it was ahead of its time as far as I'm concerned. I enjoyed it for what it was and found it to be quite innovative.
Comparatively to the Wii and Move's motion controls, Kinect seems very different. Being able to use your entire body for a controller could be great, if done correctly. I don't know TOO much about Kinect so I don't know if they've done controller-free gaming right, or if they've at least set it on the right track.
No one left the playground. They're all immature. Businessman, politicians, rock stars. They're all little dipshits.The_root_of_all_evil said:
And, yeah, you're a little dipshit too. So am I. We all are. At least we don't have the opportunity to act like dipshits where everyone can point and laugh at us.
At this phase of controller-less or motion controlled gaming I'm still not satisfied. It's all way too gimmicky. I play my Mario Kart using a classic controller. And the only other Wii game I play, New Super Mario Bros., uses the Remote like an even more classic controller. As for the Eye Toy, I completely agree with the video... unsatisfying by itself. And with Move... meh. More comfortable than Wii but still not worth unrelaxing myself from the couch for. Not saying that one day I might not "get into" the hype, but as for now none of the choices give enough actual gaming to make this gamer happy.
Move, Kinect, just two more drunken party favorites. Still can't beat out the band games though. Especially if a video camera is involved!
Move, Kinect, just two more drunken party favorites. Still can't beat out the band games though. Especially if a video camera is involved!
Okay that's it. Aaron Greenberg, you sit in this corner over here, and Richard Marks, you get the opposite corner. You are both going to sit there for 10 minutes, and when I let you both get up to go play again, I expect you to be nice to each other or I'm going to go fetch the paddle.
We won't be getting really got controller free interfaces until we can get a direct neural interface.
Sorry Sony, until you can develop something that lets me swing that life sized master sword replica I have hanging on my wall to lop the heads off of my virtual enemies Microsoft has you beat. (that is once developers can get away from BS Wii sports clones)
lol, nice. But as far as limited games for kinect...I believe it is to tap into casual gaming, not to revolutionize hardcore markets. They will make party/dance/boxing/blah blah blah games, and will no doubt do a good job at it, because it lends itself well to NOT have a controller in your hands.Abcxyq said:
Either way, I have a small hope that Move bombs big time, just because now there is all of a sudden a wii-mote with a ping pong ball has "potential", while for the last few years the motion control in the wii recieved quite a lot of ire.
But I guess time will tell which motion control does better, my guess is on kinect?
I'm really ignorant on the subject so correct me if i'm wrong but isn't the reason people dislike console rts is because the keyboard and mouse do it better with all the buttons. Once again i know almost nothing on rts, never played one on a pc. I can see how you could select things with kinect, actually if you combine it with voice control it might work on some level, but if it wouldn't be measuring depth(maybe to zoom in i guess?), and without it tracking fingers i can't see it being much different than using an eyetoy. It just seems pretty messy.dogstile said:Awesome Sony, because they're selling a hell of a lot more kinects than your silly eyetoy you're going to get jealous
On a serious note, I really want them to let us use kinect for RTS games. That would make consoles a really viable target for those.
Meh...
I'm not impressed just as I was not impressed with the Wii.
Which is to say, doesn't look good right now but has potential.
I'm not impressed just as I was not impressed with the Wii.
Which is to say, doesn't look good right now but has potential.