Sony implements new policy censoring Japanese games for possible fanservice content

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Dreiko said:
Rean is also a year 1 student (so he's 15-16 too) so it's not that out there actually. If anything, the practically underage incest in Trails in the Sky is quite a bit iffier than anything in cold steel haha.


If anything it's the opposite, with Steam now being the flagbearer which allows uncensored games that were even censored in Japan to be brought over(and surprisingly the Switch keeping up like one would have expected the ps4 would). We can't post images any more it seems so link will have to do;

*meanwhile on steam*: https://i.imgtc.com/2VsIMTi.png
I don't want to get into a long argument because I've seen how they go and it never ends well. I will say it's not the worst thing and they at least have the decency to not have the camera ogle them. Still, just because Rean is around the same age as Fie does not mean that characters of the same age have to be wearing clothes that show off a lot of skin. As for the incest part, no defense of that but all things considered that aspect didn't bother me in sky. Though if we want to be fair and transparent, there is an incest theme with Elise and Rean in Cold Steel, and they were adopted siblings at a much younger age compared to Estelle and Josh. I don't mind the whole Elise/Rean thing in the long run, but it's only annoying since there is the whole Harem thing going on and that is a trope that needs to die in a fire, especially for a series that has a serious story going on.
 

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Super Cyborg said:
Dreiko said:
Rean is also a year 1 student (so he's 15-16 too) so it's not that out there actually. If anything, the practically underage incest in Trails in the Sky is quite a bit iffier than anything in cold steel haha.


If anything it's the opposite, with Steam now being the flagbearer which allows uncensored games that were even censored in Japan to be brought over(and surprisingly the Switch keeping up like one would have expected the ps4 would). We can't post images any more it seems so link will have to do;

*meanwhile on steam*: https://i.imgtc.com/2VsIMTi.png
I don't want to get into a long argument because I've seen how they go and it never ends well. I will say it's not the worst thing and they at least have the decency to not have the camera ogle them. Still, just because Rean is around the same age as Fie does not mean that characters of the same age have to be wearing clothes that show off a lot of skin. As for the incest part, no defense of that but all things considered that aspect didn't bother me in sky. Though if we want to be fair and transparent, there is an incest theme with Elise and Rean in Cold Steel, and they were adopted siblings at a much younger age compared to Estelle and Josh. I don't mind the whole Elise/Rean thing in the long run, but it's only annoying since there is the whole Harem thing going on and that is a trope that needs to die in a fire, especially for a series that has a serious story going on.
I'd just say that it's a whole lot better than the Agate/Tita teased romance haha.


I believe the main difference is that in trails in the sky they very much consummate the relationship and not just tease it for jokes and titillation and while Estelle didn't know Joshua for as long they did still grow up together as siblings and she calls him her brother even while pursuing him. Though I definitely agree with it not being something that bothered me like you say. It's just one of those things where if one is trying to hover over games with a microscope and find something to clutch their pearls over they'd be likely to notice.

Maybe the difference is that since Estelle is the protagonist and she's the one pursuing the semi-incestuous relationship we see it as somewhat more innocent and less predatory by instinct than when there's a male hero, though that's a definite logical fallacy haha.

But yeah this is getting pretty off-topic now. We need more anger at Sony (or Soyny as I am amused to discover people call it now haha)
 

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sounds fair enough, to me. Kinda like every other time this exact thing comes up. Artists are allowed to create what they want, and if they want to sell that art through a third party, the third party has the right to stipulate what it will and won't carry.

If Sony were arranging to have developers fined or imprisoned for impugning the rights of fictional characters,then I could see myself agreeing with the enraged, but as it is? If you're a publisher, you have the right to accept or reject whatever project you please, for whatever reason you please.

if you're a japanese game dev and you want your child groping minigame to remain intact, then just find a different publisher. Ditto if you're a consumer who desires the same. Morality aside, if there's a strong enough demand for something, there'll be someone willing to supply it.

Sony making this a global policy is certainly a new spin on this tired, tired internet argument, though. I have no opinion on it one way or the other, but it's rare to see such a sweeping reform enacted.
Look at the western devs right now. Are there any games this year that panders to the same audience who buys these fanservice heavy games? Of corse not, because unless Compile Heart they are actual decent human beings who arent writing with whats between their legs.

Meanwhile a good part of Japan is stuck firmly in a neverending era of 80s nostalgia fueled by an audience who considers growing up to social justice and progressive pandering
 

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I just...I can't imagine dying on this hill.

(Is image posting broken?)
https://imgur.com/a/WHqMqD1
i cant even figure out what's different about the first one
You can barely see her panties in the right hand side. Need to level up that perv-vision XD.
 

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Dreiko said:
*meanwhile on steam*: https://i.imgtc.com/2VsIMTi.png
Abd then ask why are certain devs swithing to the Epic storefront aside from better roalties? Because they will promise quality control and not be a storefront for shovelware and trashy VNs. Quality matters to a self respecting dev and Epic knows that.



altnameJag said:
I just...I can't imagine dying on this hill.

(Is image posting broken?)
https://imgur.com/a/WHqMqD1
What did you expect from the kind of audience that has OAG as their source of gaming content? A good tip to live by is they are the same people who go to Sankaku Complex for news on anime and Sankaku before OAG supplied them with their daily dose of paranoia about how feminists and decent human beings are here to destroy their way of life.
 

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And once again, Takaki mewls about his woeful situation about Senran Kagura and Sony.

https://gematsu.com/2019/02/senran-kagura-7even-original-idea-being-reconsidered-due-to-sexual-content-regulations

And witness the utterly irrelevant people supporting him

https://twitter.com/grummz/status/1092563202427113472

https://twitter.com/UnboundRequiem/status/1092551884370513921
 

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That one's an actual big deal since they're not just altering one part of a game but redesigning it from the top down due to the censorious climate. Hopefully they'll manage to make the move to a steam-focused model eventually and be rid of their issues.


It is curious, however, that they specify that it's not just Sony but all platforms that are being affected, since the Switch is going to be releasing Moero Chronicle H soon, even in the west, and that series is quite a bit more direct than SK ever was.

Who knows, maybe 7even was going to be the steamiest SK game to date.
 

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I can see this hurting Sony in the long run as the neiche that would be going for those games are going to be pissed and go strait to pirating.

The main exceptions would be the age range of the charecters being used for cheese cake.

17 year old Riku n Final Fantasy X-2 is one thing. Some of the girls in the images from this page of the thread alone is would get you accused of being a pedo the United States sinse depending on which one you are in the age of consnet is between 16 and 18 years of age, while some countries are lower.

If the characters are largely older, I don't see a problem by and large having it unsensored. If they are lolies or a fourteen yearold with boobs the size of truck tires there is a problem.
 

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gyrobot said:
And once again, Takaki mewls about his woeful situation about Senran Kagura and Sony.

https://gematsu.com/2019/02/senran-kagura-7even-original-idea-being-reconsidered-due-to-sexual-content-regulations

And witness the utterly irrelevant people supporting him

https://twitter.com/grummz/status/1092563202427113472

https://twitter.com/UnboundRequiem/status/1092551884370513921
He's really out of touch with the PC market, isn't he? There's plenty of pedo bait. The hard part might be standing out.
 

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Oh good lord. What could their idea possibly have been that they need to do a top down redesign instead of, say, ninja college?
Freaking drama llama.
 

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Oh good lord. What could their idea possibly have been that they need to do a top down redesign instead of, say, ninja college?
Freaking drama llama.
They already did the wet tshirt contest game and the pinball game. Maybe mud-wrestling?
 

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Dreiko said:
altnameJag said:
Oh good lord. What could their idea possibly have been that they need to do a top down redesign instead of, say, ninja college?
Freaking drama llama.
They already did the wet tshirt contest game and the pinball game. Maybe mud-wrestling?
A staple of ninja college. This shouldn't be hard
 

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Something Amyss said:
gyrobot said:
And once again, Takaki mewls about his woeful situation about Senran Kagura and Sony.

https://gematsu.com/2019/02/senran-kagura-7even-original-idea-being-reconsidered-due-to-sexual-content-regulations

And witness the utterly irrelevant people supporting him

https://twitter.com/grummz/status/1092563202427113472

https://twitter.com/UnboundRequiem/status/1092551884370513921
He's really out of touch with the PC market, isn't he? There's plenty of pedo bait. The hard part might be standing out.
Computer or Politically Correct Market?
 

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saint of m said:
I can see this hurting Sony in the long run as the neiche that would be going for those games are going to be pissed and go strait to pirating.

The main exceptions would be the age range of the charecters being used for cheese cake.

17 year old Riku n Final Fantasy X-2 is one thing. Some of the girls in the images from this page of the thread alone is would get you accused of being a pedo the United States sinse depending on which one you are in the age of consnet is between 16 and 18 years of age, while some countries are lower.

If the characters are largely older, I don't see a problem by and large having it unsensored. If they are lolies or a fourteen yearold with boobs the size of truck tires there is a problem.
Seriously, what is with Sony's arrogance and shooting themselves in the foot? There not only ones to do this, but they seem to do this the most out of all the console makers.
 

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CoCage said:
saint of m said:
I can see this hurting Sony in the long run as the neiche that would be going for those games are going to be pissed and go strait to pirating.

The main exceptions would be the age range of the charecters being used for cheese cake.

17 year old Riku n Final Fantasy X-2 is one thing. Some of the girls in the images from this page of the thread alone is would get you accused of being a pedo the United States sinse depending on which one you are in the age of consnet is between 16 and 18 years of age, while some countries are lower.

If the characters are largely older, I don't see a problem by and large having it unsensored. If they are lolies or a fourteen yearold with boobs the size of truck tires there is a problem.
Seriously, what is with Sony's arrogance and shooting themselves in the foot? There not only ones to do this, but they seem to do this the most out of all the console makers.
A bunch of companies who made nothing but mediocre games by industry standards whos only redeeming point is keeping a small but dwindling number of fans with questionable taste and reputation buying their game to the rejection of everything else with content fit for 13 yr olds. Believely wholly there is a conspiracy to brainwash them as well.
 

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gyrobot said:
Something Amyss said:
gyrobot said:
And once again, Takaki mewls about his woeful situation about Senran Kagura and Sony.

https://gematsu.com/2019/02/senran-kagura-7even-original-idea-being-reconsidered-due-to-sexual-content-regulations

And witness the utterly irrelevant people supporting him

https://twitter.com/grummz/status/1092563202427113472

https://twitter.com/UnboundRequiem/status/1092551884370513921
He's really out of touch with the PC market, isn't he? There's plenty of pedo bait. The hard part might be standing out.
Computer or Politically Correct Market?
The one that actually exists.
 

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Something Amyss said:
gyrobot said:
Something Amyss said:
gyrobot said:
And once again, Takaki mewls about his woeful situation about Senran Kagura and Sony.

https://gematsu.com/2019/02/senran-kagura-7even-original-idea-being-reconsidered-due-to-sexual-content-regulations

And witness the utterly irrelevant people supporting him

https://twitter.com/grummz/status/1092563202427113472

https://twitter.com/UnboundRequiem/status/1092551884370513921
He's really out of touch with the PC market, isn't he? There's plenty of pedo bait. The hard part might be standing out.
Computer or Politically Correct Market?
The one that actually exists.
So politically correct ;)
 

Something Amyss

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Wow...are we really do desperate to defend pedophilia we'll pretend that computer gaming doesn't exist? Jesus.
 

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Ah yes, the pc pedophilia look at all the victims... oh wait this are bits.

Seriously are people comparing this to actual pedophilia? Wtf?????? Please dont compare this to you know, actual horrible crimes with actual victims