Absolutely, that's what I've wanted since the day I got it (also the day the PSN went down, whoops). I just want to play co-op.Patrick Young said:I just want to get portal on my pc
Absolutely, that's what I've wanted since the day I got it (also the day the PSN went down, whoops). I just want to play co-op.Patrick Young said:I just want to get portal on my pc
Not nearly enough. In the end it equals out to about 15 dollars a person, maybe more if you factor in the free games and whatever the hell Qriocity is. However, these are all digital services which probably have an actual cost to Sony of much less than 15 dollars per person. And this is all assuming people even want to use Sony's online services again. People that choose not to risk their lax security a second time are left with no compensation for the theft of their personal information due to Sony's negligence.Echo136 said:You do realize how much money they stand to lose from giving away a free month of PS+ to potentially 77 million PSN users right?
You should have canceled your card by now or at the very least set up a fraud alert.Kalezian said:in b4 "Anonymous did it!" without reading the article.
Now, what will you do if/when credit cards that were "stolen" start being used?
Don't forget that with how many people link their accounts to other accounts, like Twitter and Facebook, it is very easy to hack a person's information. Just getting the information to hack one will likely open up all the others.The Incredible Bulk said:I am of the highest opinion that gamers need to take the collective stick out of their collective asses...Sony may have not had the proper encryption, but in no way was this their fault. Blame the hackers; not the victim(s). It's asinine and basically is like blaming a murder victim because he had your car keys in his pocket at the time, having borrowed them from you for a brief time. Take the stick out and look at what Sony is doing...they apologized and their culture there, that means a HELL of a lot more than it does here. They're getting PSN back up, they're giving us all free stuff, and they're trying to improve security. They're doing the best; that's all we can ask. And to those who says XBL is invulnerable, think again. This could happen to XBL, Facebook(!), Amazon, Google, etc. Anonymous and other hackers are not "vigilantes" or "freedim fighters" They're people ruining other people's lives: they're criminals and should be treated as such. We don't bow or cave in to crooks, we lock them up. Maybe a day for each person they screwed with would be appropriate (75 million days each...just enough time in prison)...
Yeah it takes a big company to get each and every one of their 77 million online users' information compromised and then throw three executives out to give a staged apology. I'm sure when people start having their identities stolen and their credit cards used fraudulently that little bow there is going to make it all better.RT-Medic-with-shotgun said:And that's reason to accept the apology. In the Japanese culture that right there is the ultimate apology.
Yeah i know. I do know a little bit about japanese culture, but yeah they do seem to be genuine here.RT-Medic-with-shotgun said:And that's reason to accept the apology. In the Japanese culture that right there is the ultimate apology. If you think they look bad here imagine how they look in japan.Sutter Cane said:Wow... shit just got real.Dexter111 said:This article is in serious need of that picture: http://www.businessinsider.com/sony-exec-bows-deeply-in-apology-for-security-breach-2011-5
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Has anyone bought a boat with your info yet? My info feels pretty safe. I didnt even have any credit card info on my account, and if you google my name you could probably find most of the rest of the info that was taken on Myspace or Facebook anyways, along with probably most of the people on PSN. This bullshit sense of entitlement that gamers are feeling is ridiculous.Xanthious said:Not nearly enough. In the end it equals out to about 15 dollars a person, maybe more if you factor in the free games and whatever the hell Qriocity is. However, these are all digital services which probably have an actual cost to Sony of much less than 15 dollars per person. And this is all assuming people even want to use Sony's online services again. People that choose not to risk their lax security a second time are left with no compensation for the theft of their personal information due to Sony's negligence.Echo136 said:You do realize how much money they stand to lose from giving away a free month of PS+ to potentially 77 million PSN users right?
This needs to be brought to a court of law where they can be made accountable for their part in all of this. What they have offered to date (a few shiny baubles and a staged apology) isn't even a beginning to what they need to come off of to make this right with the people that trusted them with their personal information and credit card information. Furthermore, I don't care if the lawyers are the only ones that get rich off the lawsuit as long as Sony is made to pay for their negligence and poor handling of this matter.
Do you realize that 77 million users -- while a good number to use in an attention-grabbing headline on top of a sensationalist story filled with invented "facts" -- isn't an accurate count of the number of individual and differentiated users? It is the number of total accounts, not total users, and includes the accounts of users who have established multiple accounts (in some instances, three and four accounts). The more accurate number reported by the more responsible and professional press is 30 - 40 million individual users.Xanthious said:Yeah it takes a big company to get each and every one of their 77 million online users' information compromised and then throw three executives out to give a staged apology. I'm sure when people start having their identities stolen and their credit cards used fraudulently that little bow there is going to make it all better.RT-Medic-with-shotgun said:And that's reason to accept the apology. In the Japanese culture that right there is the ultimate apology.
If Sony was actually sorry they wouldn't have waited a week and a half to apologize. They wouldn't have waited a week to tell the customers their information was potentially compromised. That little press conference they had to "apologize" was nothing more than a cheap publicity stunt.
Which is why Sony's assertion that only 10 million accounts with credit card information therein were compromised is entirely believable. Fools wanna act as if each and every account contained credit card information. Most of them, just like yours, didn't.Echo136 said:Has anyone bought a boat with your info yet? My info feels pretty safe. I didnt even have any credit card info on my account, and if you google my name you could probably find most of the rest of the info that was taken on Myspace or Facebook anyways, along with probably most of the people on PSN. This bullshit sense of entitlement that gamers are feeling is ridiculous.Xanthious said:Not nearly enough. In the end it equals out to about 15 dollars a person, maybe more if you factor in the free games and whatever the hell Qriocity is. However, these are all digital services which probably have an actual cost to Sony of much less than 15 dollars per person. And this is all assuming people even want to use Sony's online services again. People that choose not to risk their lax security a second time are left with no compensation for the theft of their personal information due to Sony's negligence.Echo136 said:You do realize how much money they stand to lose from giving away a free month of PS+ to potentially 77 million PSN users right?
This needs to be brought to a court of law where they can be made accountable for their part in all of this. What they have offered to date (a few shiny baubles and a staged apology) isn't even a beginning to what they need to come off of to make this right with the people that trusted them with their personal information and credit card information. Furthermore, I don't care if the lawyers are the only ones that get rich off the lawsuit as long as Sony is made to pay for their negligence and poor handling of this matter.
The Escapist has been against Sony recently, can't be too unbiased.Dexter111 said:This article is in serious need of that picture: http://www.businessinsider.com/sony-exec-bows-deeply-in-apology-for-security-breach-2011-5
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Bias is one thing. Even the most respectable journals evidence some degree of bias (e.g., the New York Times leans to the left and the Washington Post leans to the right of the New York Times). But what can't be merely dismissed as journalistic bias is to recklessly report unsubstantiated allegations as if they were facts. That's not "bias." That's just bullshit.RedEyesBlackGamer said:The Escapist has been against Sony recently, can't be too unbiased.Dexter111 said:This article is in serious need of that picture: http://www.businessinsider.com/sony-exec-bows-deeply-in-apology-for-security-breach-2011-5
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I'm no longer upset so I wish they would have him do this. It would be nice to see them self-deprecating.Ultratwinkie said:
So Sony decided to say sorry? Why do I see Kevin Butler doing this?
Yeah, they're so against Sony. That's why Tom said this;RedEyesBlackGamer said:The Escapist has been against Sony recently, can't be too unbiased.![]()
Definitely biased completley against Sony.Tom Goldman said:Unless someone is buying an RV in my name right now, I can accept his apology.
Which is why I facepalmed when that "Credit Cards for Sale" story went up. There was no evidence to support it.JDKJ said:Bias is one thing. Even the most respectable journals evidence some degree of bias (e.g., the New York Times leans to the left and the Washington Post leans to the right of the New York Times). But what can't be merely dismissed as journalistic bias is to recklessly report unsubstantiated allegations as if they were facts. That's not "bias." That's just bullshit.RedEyesBlackGamer said:The Escapist has been against Sony recently, can't be too unbiased.Dexter111 said:This article is in serious need of that picture: http://www.businessinsider.com/sony-exec-bows-deeply-in-apology-for-security-breach-2011-5![]()