Sony Offers "Sincerest Apologies" for PSN Attack

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Patrick Young said:
I just want to get portal on my pc
Absolutely, that's what I've wanted since the day I got it (also the day the PSN went down, whoops). I just want to play co-op.
 

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Echo136 said:
You do realize how much money they stand to lose from giving away a free month of PS+ to potentially 77 million PSN users right?
Not nearly enough. In the end it equals out to about 15 dollars a person, maybe more if you factor in the free games and whatever the hell Qriocity is. However, these are all digital services which probably have an actual cost to Sony of much less than 15 dollars per person. And this is all assuming people even want to use Sony's online services again. People that choose not to risk their lax security a second time are left with no compensation for the theft of their personal information due to Sony's negligence.

This needs to be brought to a court of law where they can be made accountable for their part in all of this. What they have offered to date (a few shiny baubles and a staged apology) isn't even a beginning to what they need to come off of to make this right with the people that trusted them with their personal information and credit card information. Furthermore, I don't care if the lawyers are the only ones that get rich off the lawsuit as long as Sony is made to pay for their negligence and poor handling of this matter.
 

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Kalezian said:
in b4 "Anonymous did it!" without reading the article.




Now, what will you do if/when credit cards that were "stolen" start being used?
You should have canceled your card by now or at the very least set up a fraud alert.
 

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JUST GET THE PSN BACK ONLINE PLEASE! And thank you Sony, admitting that you screwed up royally was big of you.
 

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I never blamed Sony, so this apology is just icing on the cake to me. I'll happily take my free stuff and allow this to pass. Just don't let it happen again, please. Then, I will be very upset.
Now, if the authorities can just catch the perpetrators this will wrap up nicely.

Also, where is the photo of them bowing in the article? Someone posted it in their comment. Why can't the article? It's a very powerful image.

The Incredible Bulk said:
I am of the highest opinion that gamers need to take the collective stick out of their collective asses...Sony may have not had the proper encryption, but in no way was this their fault. Blame the hackers; not the victim(s). It's asinine and basically is like blaming a murder victim because he had your car keys in his pocket at the time, having borrowed them from you for a brief time. Take the stick out and look at what Sony is doing...they apologized and their culture there, that means a HELL of a lot more than it does here. They're getting PSN back up, they're giving us all free stuff, and they're trying to improve security. They're doing the best; that's all we can ask. And to those who says XBL is invulnerable, think again. This could happen to XBL, Facebook(!), Amazon, Google, etc. Anonymous and other hackers are not "vigilantes" or "freedim fighters" They're people ruining other people's lives: they're criminals and should be treated as such. We don't bow or cave in to crooks, we lock them up. Maybe a day for each person they screwed with would be appropriate (75 million days each...just enough time in prison)...
Don't forget that with how many people link their accounts to other accounts, like Twitter and Facebook, it is very easy to hack a person's information. Just getting the information to hack one will likely open up all the others.

Hell, just recently, I had to call my ISP, to have an issue fixed. At a certain point, they had to ask me my security question. And I was stumped. I quickly came up with three possible answers and didn't want to screw it up. Without missing a beat, the person told me the first letter of the answer. I instantly knew the answer, but something bothered me. He was so willing to reveal this to me. Fortunately, you'd have to be local to know the answer, but how many others can say that?

I think it is a very real possibility that MicroSoft or any other company, like Nintendo or Visa, could be hacked, too. I hope that they don't for everyone's sake. Still, I think this should be a lesson to all involved. Nothing is 100% secure.
 

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RT-Medic-with-shotgun said:
And that's reason to accept the apology. In the Japanese culture that right there is the ultimate apology.
Yeah it takes a big company to get each and every one of their 77 million online users' information compromised and then throw three executives out to give a staged apology. I'm sure when people start having their identities stolen and their credit cards used fraudulently that little bow there is going to make it all better.

If Sony was actually sorry they wouldn't have waited a week and a half to apologize. They wouldn't have waited a week to tell the customers their information was potentially compromised. That little press conference they had to "apologize" was nothing more than a cheap publicity stunt.
 

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The bowing is a big deal, sure, and an apology is always welcome in the wake of a loss of service. However, I can't say I'll be jumping up to pat them on the back immediately; they were attacked so of course it's not some major offense on their part, but such a successful attack denotes lackluster security. When you're dealing with millions of paying customers' private information that, upon being jeapardised, could cause them no small amount of cost and grief, an apology will not erase the issue - be it welcome or not.
 

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I just don't understand what people are expecting Sony to do as an apology for this. Bankrupt the company with ten free games? Because it seems having PSN and a few good things is a lot better than ten free games and no more Sony/PSN.

It's clear that Sony viciously attacked Xanathious in his house one night, but for the rest, why are you so angry? Address? Phone books give that away, Phone number? same. Mother's maiden name? right.... Credit card? No proof of those being taken, and I've never heard of a credit card company that didn't reverse fraudulent chargers before.

It seems everyone is mad at the "idea" of all the information being stolen, but no one has really been hurt by this. Change your password, take your free stuff and move on.
 

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RT-Medic-with-shotgun said:
Sutter Cane said:
Dexter111 said:
This article is in serious need of that picture: http://www.businessinsider.com/sony-exec-bows-deeply-in-apology-for-security-breach-2011-5



Wow... shit just got real.
And that's reason to accept the apology. In the Japanese culture that right there is the ultimate apology. If you think they look bad here imagine how they look in japan.
Yeah i know. I do know a little bit about japanese culture, but yeah they do seem to be genuine here.
 

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I still don't forgive them for waiting so long to tell people their info might of been compromised though. As I said before, I will only buying exclusives on the PS3 from now on. I'll just stick to the xbox otherwise. I consider the PS3 a far better system, but still.

And yes, I do understand that they bowed and thats a big thing in Japanese culture, and yes, I realize I should blame the hacker. Trust me, I do. But sony is also at fault, so no more purchases from PSN, and no more purchases of multiplatform games.
 

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Insufficient. There was a time Hirai would have fallen on a sword for this! We demand seppuku!

(Okay, don't really.)
 

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Xanthious said:
Echo136 said:
You do realize how much money they stand to lose from giving away a free month of PS+ to potentially 77 million PSN users right?
Not nearly enough. In the end it equals out to about 15 dollars a person, maybe more if you factor in the free games and whatever the hell Qriocity is. However, these are all digital services which probably have an actual cost to Sony of much less than 15 dollars per person. And this is all assuming people even want to use Sony's online services again. People that choose not to risk their lax security a second time are left with no compensation for the theft of their personal information due to Sony's negligence.

This needs to be brought to a court of law where they can be made accountable for their part in all of this. What they have offered to date (a few shiny baubles and a staged apology) isn't even a beginning to what they need to come off of to make this right with the people that trusted them with their personal information and credit card information. Furthermore, I don't care if the lawyers are the only ones that get rich off the lawsuit as long as Sony is made to pay for their negligence and poor handling of this matter.
Has anyone bought a boat with your info yet? My info feels pretty safe. I didnt even have any credit card info on my account, and if you google my name you could probably find most of the rest of the info that was taken on Myspace or Facebook anyways, along with probably most of the people on PSN. This bullshit sense of entitlement that gamers are feeling is ridiculous.
 

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Xanthious said:
RT-Medic-with-shotgun said:
And that's reason to accept the apology. In the Japanese culture that right there is the ultimate apology.
Yeah it takes a big company to get each and every one of their 77 million online users' information compromised and then throw three executives out to give a staged apology. I'm sure when people start having their identities stolen and their credit cards used fraudulently that little bow there is going to make it all better.

If Sony was actually sorry they wouldn't have waited a week and a half to apologize. They wouldn't have waited a week to tell the customers their information was potentially compromised. That little press conference they had to "apologize" was nothing more than a cheap publicity stunt.
Do you realize that 77 million users -- while a good number to use in an attention-grabbing headline on top of a sensationalist story filled with invented "facts" -- isn't an accurate count of the number of individual and differentiated users? It is the number of total accounts, not total users, and includes the accounts of users who have established multiple accounts (in some instances, three and four accounts). The more accurate number reported by the more responsible and professional press is 30 - 40 million individual users.
 

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Echo136 said:
Xanthious said:
Echo136 said:
You do realize how much money they stand to lose from giving away a free month of PS+ to potentially 77 million PSN users right?
Not nearly enough. In the end it equals out to about 15 dollars a person, maybe more if you factor in the free games and whatever the hell Qriocity is. However, these are all digital services which probably have an actual cost to Sony of much less than 15 dollars per person. And this is all assuming people even want to use Sony's online services again. People that choose not to risk their lax security a second time are left with no compensation for the theft of their personal information due to Sony's negligence.

This needs to be brought to a court of law where they can be made accountable for their part in all of this. What they have offered to date (a few shiny baubles and a staged apology) isn't even a beginning to what they need to come off of to make this right with the people that trusted them with their personal information and credit card information. Furthermore, I don't care if the lawyers are the only ones that get rich off the lawsuit as long as Sony is made to pay for their negligence and poor handling of this matter.
Has anyone bought a boat with your info yet? My info feels pretty safe. I didnt even have any credit card info on my account, and if you google my name you could probably find most of the rest of the info that was taken on Myspace or Facebook anyways, along with probably most of the people on PSN. This bullshit sense of entitlement that gamers are feeling is ridiculous.
Which is why Sony's assertion that only 10 million accounts with credit card information therein were compromised is entirely believable. Fools wanna act as if each and every account contained credit card information. Most of them, just like yours, didn't.
 

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Dexter111 said:
This article is in serious need of that picture: http://www.businessinsider.com/sony-exec-bows-deeply-in-apology-for-security-breach-2011-5



The Escapist has been against Sony recently, can't be too unbiased. :p
 

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RedEyesBlackGamer said:
Dexter111 said:
This article is in serious need of that picture: http://www.businessinsider.com/sony-exec-bows-deeply-in-apology-for-security-breach-2011-5



The Escapist has been against Sony recently, can't be too unbiased. :p
Bias is one thing. Even the most respectable journals evidence some degree of bias (e.g., the New York Times leans to the left and the Washington Post leans to the right of the New York Times). But what can't be merely dismissed as journalistic bias is to recklessly report unsubstantiated allegations as if they were facts. That's not "bias." That's just bullshit.
 

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Ultratwinkie said:

So Sony decided to say sorry? Why do I see Kevin Butler doing this?
I'm no longer upset so I wish they would have him do this. It would be nice to see them self-deprecating.

Getting a new CC is really not a big deal for me. Just unfortunate that it happened right before a bunch of auto pay bills like insurance :p.
 

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RedEyesBlackGamer said:
The Escapist has been against Sony recently, can't be too unbiased. :p
Yeah, they're so against Sony. That's why Tom said this;

Tom Goldman said:
Unless someone is buying an RV in my name right now, I can accept his apology.
Definitely biased completley against Sony.

OT: Don't give a damn if they apologized. That should be expected of anyone at this point. Sony's refusal to inform the pubic of the potential information leak until days later has done far more damage to their reputation in my eyes than any apology can fix.
 

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Wow a full apologetic bow, it definately seems like they are sorry for this mess.

But I can accept it Sony, its wasnt your fault that this crap occured really, just be a bit more on the spot with giving customers the news next time please.
 

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JDKJ said:
RedEyesBlackGamer said:
Dexter111 said:
This article is in serious need of that picture: http://www.businessinsider.com/sony-exec-bows-deeply-in-apology-for-security-breach-2011-5
The Escapist has been against Sony recently, can't be too unbiased. :p
Bias is one thing. Even the most respectable journals evidence some degree of bias (e.g., the New York Times leans to the left and the Washington Post leans to the right of the New York Times). But what can't be merely dismissed as journalistic bias is to recklessly report unsubstantiated allegations as if they were facts. That's not "bias." That's just bullshit.
Which is why I facepalmed when that "Credit Cards for Sale" story went up. There was no evidence to support it.