Sony Offers "Sincerest Apologies" for PSN Attack

Xanthious

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Kitsuna10060 said:
i kinda have to jump in on ya here, sorry, but at this point if you haven't done anything to prevent your stolen data from used fraudulently, you deserve to get ripped off whole sale, its not hard to cancel a card, and get a new one issued if you feel its been compromised. 10, 15 minutes, TOPS, and your golden. (give or take on the time mind you) and at this point, you have no valid excuses as to why some one couldn't have done so.

short answer, if your not going to protect your self, you deserve no sympathy from me
This is of course assuming you know that it's been compromised. Sure, there is plenty of coverage on gaming sites like The Escapist, Kotaku, etc but the mainstream coverage isn't as large. I'm sure that there are plenty of people (parents, people that no longer have a PS3 but once did, and so on) that aren't even aware their personal information has been compromised.

Then you have the costs associated with cancelling your debit/credit card and having a new one issued. It might only be 10 dollars or so but is Sony going to fork over that money? I doubt it. Just like I highly doubt that they will pick up the tab for people who want to use a credit monitoring service because of Sony's negligence.

Furthermore, there is the possibility of straight out identity theft where the thieves have credit cards, cell phones, etc issued in your name thus damaging your credit rating. That is something that could take place months or maybe even a year or so from now once this all blows over. All the disingenuous apologies and bowing in the world won't matter one bit when faced with that.
 

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Chief Executive Board should commit seppuku, like a true Samurai when they are dishonored.
 

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Shadie777 said:
Cliff_m85 said:
RedEyesBlackGamer said:
Apology accepted. Now get the PSN back online.
I don't understand this.

Hey dude, I was talking to this shady figure and gave him your name, address, log-in, passwords, credit card, and pin number. Sorry.
-Oh man, don't sweat. No big deal at all. Now let's play some games.



Nope. Not that easy. Sorry isn't enough.
You obviously don't understand how they said sorry. They bowed apologetically in front of the public. do you realize what that even means in Japan?
Besides, what else can they do? They offered compensation and they are basically begging for forgiveness. Saying that you don't forgive them is making you appear like, in my opinion, a dick. You don't even have to trust their security anymore, you can forgive them then move on to a company you think can provide better security when you game online.
Oh wow, a bowing in public. And?

They can't really do anything. Really I've been upset at Playstation for awhile now, but this killed it for me. The whole murdering of backwards capability was the first straw, knowing that they didn't really protect our information is the last. I'll stick with my Xbox now and sell my PS3.

And if it was a sincere apology (I doubt it, $$$$$$$) then I might understand it, but having me wait to find out how much of MY information was stolen was a dick move. Pure and simple.

notalls pulsars
 

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Xanthious said:
Kitsuna10060 said:
i kinda have to jump in on ya here, sorry, but at this point if you haven't done anything to prevent your stolen data from used fraudulently, you deserve to get ripped off whole sale, its not hard to cancel a card, and get a new one issued if you feel its been compromised. 10, 15 minutes, TOPS, and your golden. (give or take on the time mind you) and at this point, you have no valid excuses as to why some one couldn't have done so.

short answer, if your not going to protect your self, you deserve no sympathy from me
This is of course assuming you know that it's been compromised. Sure, there is plenty of coverage on gaming sites like The Escapist, Kotaku, etc but the mainstream coverage isn't as large. I'm sure that there are plenty of people (parents, people that no longer have a PS3 but once did, and so on) that aren't even aware their personal information has been compromised.

Then you have the costs associated with cancelling your debit/credit card and having a new one issued. It might only be 10 dollars or so but is Sony going to fork over that money? I doubt it. Just like I highly doubt that they will pick up the tab for people who want to use a credit monitoring service because of Sony's negligence.

Furthermore, there is the possibility of straight out identity theft where the thieves have credit cards, cell phones, etc issued in your name thus damaging your credit rating. That is something that could take place months or maybe even a year or so from now once this all blows over. All the disingenuous apologies and bowing in the world won't matter one bit when faced with that.
Do you read the articles to which you post? If so, why are you doubting that Sony will pick up the tab for credit monitoring when they are publicly promising to do just that? That's what the article states is among the measures that Sony is taking in response: "Sony-provided assistance for credit monitoring . . . ."
 

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RedEyesBlackGamer said:
Cliff_m85 said:
RedEyesBlackGamer said:
Apology accepted. Now get the PSN back online.
I don't understand this.

Hey dude, I was talking to this shady figure and gave him your name, address, log-in, passwords, credit card, and pin number. Sorry.
-Oh man, don't sweat. No big deal at all. Now let's play some games.



Nope. Not that easy. Sorry isn't enough.
When will people...they didn't give anybody anything!
Here....allow me to lock your priceless diamond in our heavy-strength tissue-paper lockbox.
 

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i always trusted sony
and i feel a little bad to take the presents although i have not been damaged in the slightest(not counting the rage of reading stupid comments in various forums)

so can we call sony still guilty if it was a "highly sophisticated attack by a skilled intruder" that "took steps to cover his tracks" ?
if that is really true i think some people owe an apology to sony
 

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well reading the comments section of this has demonstrated that no matter what you do, some people will never be happy no matter what you do, i find it rather sad that people can't even be bothered to accept an apology in the meantime while this whole issue is being sorted out

JDKJ said:
Do you read the articles to which you post? If so, why are you doubting that Sony will pick up the tab for credit monitoring when they are publicly promising to do just that? That's what the article states is among the measures that Sony is taken in response: "Sony-provided assistance for credit monitoring . . . ."
i doubt he does, he's too busy making it quite apparent that he will not even be the slightest bit content until sony ceases to exist
 

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Cliff_m85 said:
Shadie777 said:
Cliff_m85 said:
RedEyesBlackGamer said:
Apology accepted. Now get the PSN back online.
I don't understand this.

Hey dude, I was talking to this shady figure and gave him your name, address, log-in, passwords, credit card, and pin number. Sorry.
-Oh man, don't sweat. No big deal at all. Now let's play some games.



Nope. Not that easy. Sorry isn't enough.
You obviously don't understand how they said sorry. They bowed apologetically in front of the public. do you realize what that even means in Japan?
Besides, what else can they do? They offered compensation and they are basically begging for forgiveness. Saying that you don't forgive them is making you appear like, in my opinion, a dick. You don't even have to trust their security anymore, you can forgive them then move on to a company you think can provide better security when you game online.
Oh wow, a bowing in public. And?

They can't really do anything. Really I've been upset at Playstation for awhile now, but this killed it for me. The whole murdering of backwards capability was the first straw, knowing that they didn't really protect our information is the last. I'll stick with my Xbox now and sell my PS3.

And if it was a sincere apology (I doubt it, $$$$$$$) then I might understand it, but having me wait to find out how much of MY information was stolen was a dick move. Pure and simple.

notalls pulsars
Let me repeat what I said in my earlier comment. In fact I will put it in bold to show its importance.
Do you even realize what the bowing means in Japan?
Edit:
Taken from this website: http://www.tofugu.com/2010/07/12/bowing-in-japan-japanese-etiquette/
Highest Respect Bow, Saikeirei, 45 degrees: Say you screw up, big time... perhaps you made some cars that accelerate to 80 mph and crash into things and you need to apologize, or perhaps you're bowing the the emperor. This is the bow you should use, because it shows the most amount of respect (or regret) possible (at least, until you get on your knees). You won't need to use this one very often, if you're lucky
 

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RedEyesBlackGamer said:
I just don't understand the amount of hate they are getting. I guess it is easier for people to vent at the only party with a face in this disaster.
You don't understand why a company, whose security was clearly inadequate to protect its customer details [personal data was stored unencrypted for example] is receiving negative feedback over this incident?
 

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Shadie777 said:
Cliff_m85 said:
Shadie777 said:
Cliff_m85 said:
RedEyesBlackGamer said:
Apology accepted. Now get the PSN back online.
I don't understand this.

Hey dude, I was talking to this shady figure and gave him your name, address, log-in, passwords, credit card, and pin number. Sorry.
-Oh man, don't sweat. No big deal at all. Now let's play some games.



Nope. Not that easy. Sorry isn't enough.
You obviously don't understand how they said sorry. They bowed apologetically in front of the public. do you realize what that even means in Japan?
Besides, what else can they do? They offered compensation and they are basically begging for forgiveness. Saying that you don't forgive them is making you appear like, in my opinion, a dick. You don't even have to trust their security anymore, you can forgive them then move on to a company you think can provide better security when you game online.
Oh wow, a bowing in public. And?

They can't really do anything. Really I've been upset at Playstation for awhile now, but this killed it for me. The whole murdering of backwards capability was the first straw, knowing that they didn't really protect our information is the last. I'll stick with my Xbox now and sell my PS3.

And if it was a sincere apology (I doubt it, $$$$$$$) then I might understand it, but having me wait to find out how much of MY information was stolen was a dick move. Pure and simple.

notalls pulsars
Let me repeat what I said in my earlier comment. In fact I will put it in bold to show its importance.
Do you even realize what the bowing means in Japan?
If you don't then I suggest you look it up.
Yes, and I believe they're truly and honestly sorry.........that it's going to cost them billions or trillions of dollars.

I also understand that everyone in Japan who bows can't be doing it for other motives, because that's illegal and the brainscanner robots would find out about it in an instant.
 

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blind_dead_mcjones said:
well reading the comments section of this has demonstrated a couple things to me

a) how culturally ignorant some people are, and b) how some people are both unreasonable and ungrateful

JDKJ said:
Do you read the articles to which you post? If so, why are you doubting that Sony will pick up the tab for credit monitoring when they are publicly promising to do just that? That's what the article states is among the measures that Sony is taken in response: "Sony-provided assistance for credit monitoring . . . ."
i doubt he does, he's too busy making it quite apparent that he will not even be the slightest bit content until sony ceases to exist
When you use the carriage to pull the horse, ain't much need to concern yourself with the fact that it's a horse of an entirely different color.

Off-Topic: I challenge anyone to mix metaphors better than I do. Twenty bucks say you can't even come close.
 

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"Sincerest apologies" might be nice; some form of compensation would be even better.
 

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Reed Spacer said:
"Sincerest apologies" might be nice; some form of compensation would be even better.
i take it that being the better person by accepting the apology is too much to ask?

and even so, some form of compensation will be on offer so where in lies the problem?
 

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Cliff_m85 said:
Shadie777 said:
Cliff_m85 said:
Shadie777 said:
Cliff_m85 said:
RedEyesBlackGamer said:
Apology accepted. Now get the PSN back online.
I don't understand this.

Hey dude, I was talking to this shady figure and gave him your name, address, log-in, passwords, credit card, and pin number. Sorry.
-Oh man, don't sweat. No big deal at all. Now let's play some games.



Nope. Not that easy. Sorry isn't enough.
You obviously don't understand how they said sorry. They bowed apologetically in front of the public. do you realize what that even means in Japan?
Besides, what else can they do? They offered compensation and they are basically begging for forgiveness. Saying that you don't forgive them is making you appear like, in my opinion, a dick. You don't even have to trust their security anymore, you can forgive them then move on to a company you think can provide better security when you game online.
Oh wow, a bowing in public. And?

They can't really do anything. Really I've been upset at Playstation for awhile now, but this killed it for me. The whole murdering of backwards capability was the first straw, knowing that they didn't really protect our information is the last. I'll stick with my Xbox now and sell my PS3.

And if it was a sincere apology (I doubt it, $$$$$$$) then I might understand it, but having me wait to find out how much of MY information was stolen was a dick move. Pure and simple.

notalls pulsars
Let me repeat what I said in my earlier comment. In fact I will put it in bold to show its importance.
Do you even realize what the bowing means in Japan?
If you don't then I suggest you look it up.
Yes, and I believe they're truly and honestly sorry.........that it's going to cost them billions or trillions of dollars.

I also understand that everyone in Japan who bows can't be doing it for other motives, because that's illegal and the brainscanner robots would find out about it in an instant.
What are you basing this estimate of the cost to them as the result of a data breach being billions or trillions of dollars? And do us both a favor and don't cite that Greg Tito article that claims it could cost them $25 billion. That article belongs right next to the "Bigfoot Spotted in Wenatchee National Forest!!" article.
 

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JDKJ said:
Cliff_m85 said:
Shadie777 said:
Cliff_m85 said:
Shadie777 said:
Cliff_m85 said:
RedEyesBlackGamer said:
Apology accepted. Now get the PSN back online.
I don't understand this.

Hey dude, I was talking to this shady figure and gave him your name, address, log-in, passwords, credit card, and pin number. Sorry.
-Oh man, don't sweat. No big deal at all. Now let's play some games.



Nope. Not that easy. Sorry isn't enough.
You obviously don't understand how they said sorry. They bowed apologetically in front of the public. do you realize what that even means in Japan?
Besides, what else can they do? They offered compensation and they are basically begging for forgiveness. Saying that you don't forgive them is making you appear like, in my opinion, a dick. You don't even have to trust their security anymore, you can forgive them then move on to a company you think can provide better security when you game online.
Oh wow, a bowing in public. And?

They can't really do anything. Really I've been upset at Playstation for awhile now, but this killed it for me. The whole murdering of backwards capability was the first straw, knowing that they didn't really protect our information is the last. I'll stick with my Xbox now and sell my PS3.

And if it was a sincere apology (I doubt it, $$$$$$$) then I might understand it, but having me wait to find out how much of MY information was stolen was a dick move. Pure and simple.

notalls pulsars
Let me repeat what I said in my earlier comment. In fact I will put it in bold to show its importance.
Do you even realize what the bowing means in Japan?
If you don't then I suggest you look it up.
Yes, and I believe they're truly and honestly sorry.........that it's going to cost them billions or trillions of dollars.

I also understand that everyone in Japan who bows can't be doing it for other motives, because that's illegal and the brainscanner robots would find out about it in an instant.
What are you basing this estimate of the cost to them as the result of a data breach being billions or trillions of dollars? And do us both a favor and don't cite that Greg Tito article that claims it could cost them $25 billion. That article belongs right next to the "Bigfoot Spotted in Wenatchee National Forest!!" article.
I'm factoring in the lawsuits.
 

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CommanderKirov said:
Thanks sony. I'm sure that makes everything better for the millions that got their data stolen.
Sony's plan for dealing with losing data to hackers:

1) Scapegoat blame to known pest.
2) Continue to deny blame while gradually revealing the extent of the damage.
3) ????
4) Profit.
 

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EchetusXe said:
Not good enough. I expect to be installed as the new Emperor of Japan. Being unable to play on the Playstation network for a week is the greatest tragedy in the history of the human race, if not the history of the Universe as a whole (though Bambi's mum dying was pretty bad too). The hacker responsible is a worse human being than Joseph Stalin. When caught I expect him and his extended family to be buried alive, and his name erased from the annals of history.

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I like this guy, he clearly shares my view.