Sony Still Unsure About Credit Card Leak on PSN

[Orcus The Ultimate]

i can't believe they did this after they've had the "leak", there's a french saying that goes like this: "mieux vaut prévenir que guérir" and it means that it's better to take measures in order to prevent a problem rather than be forced to take care of it later.

 

[Elamdri]

If they were "unsure" of this they should have told their users fucking immediately so that they could cancel their PSN linked credit cards if they wanted to. Way to potentially give identity thieves a weeks head start Sony!

If I had a credit card on PSN and had my identity stolen over this, I would totally sue Sony for not announcing the potential for stolen financial data earlier.

danpascooch v. SCEA. I can't wait. Years from now, law professors will be assigning the landmark danpascooch case to their law students as required reading.

F That, we have enough on our plates as it is.

 

[Sieggy]

HURR DURR. Well, that aside, Sony's gonna go under in gaming like Enix's FF14 if this is not fixed soon enough.

 

[The Hungry Samurai]

So if a hacker group attacks a corrupt. corporation,they're edgy activists with unstoppable power. When hackers attack something that puts our credit cards at risk, the company to do so has their head up their rear for giving hacker kids access to our personal info. IMHO the writer of this article is being a fear mongering jerk.

Look at what the writer says : " The company also acknowledged today that it doesn't know how much private user data was lost in the attack."

Yet it says repeatedly that Sony is unsure if ANY of that info is leaked. This along with the articles title makes it sound like they've leaked stuff when they're obviously just hesitant to say that nothing has leaked. They'd look a lot worse if they did and turned out to be wrong.

People are so quick to crucify Sony while the real jerks are the people messing with them, and keeping us from enjoying our psn. As for the console fanboys, they should just grow up. No system is perfect and each has a lovely set of reasons to be great and horrible. Competition between them is what keeps the games industry fresh and thriving, but when something random, or malicious happens to one of them there's no reason to be a douche about it.

 

[The_Fezz]

Whelp, I'm screwed.

 

[Hybridwolf]

Well what can be said. Sony are going to suffer for this balls up, and to be fair they really have only themselves to blame. Still, hopefully they'll get their act together and quickly. The best thing they can do now is offer a huge promo to everyone for their loss.

 

[fooddood3]

Seriously, considering their history of minor annoyance level attacks, this is to Anon what 9/11 was to Al-Qaeda (if you'll excuse the reference)

So... Anon is almost certainly guilty? I get the feeling you are confusing Al-Qaeda and Iraq.

EDIT: Misunderstood your post, sorry.

 

[KeyMaster45]

This seems like a good time to go buy an XBox.

My Xbox went all red ring the same day PSN went down. Time to go buy a Wii?

Nah, that means it's time to just say "fuck it" and go PC.

OT: This whole situation is just amazing. If this is caused by internal idiocy then Sony is a worse run company than we thought. If it's indeed been caused by an outside source then damn these people have balls to just waltz in and curb stomp the PSN to the point that Sony has to rebuild it from the ground up.

Sony just needs to quit while it's marginally ahead. It seems like every other week they're putting their foot in their mouth.

 

[Carnagath]

I'm starting to think none from outside had to do with it. I can't believe someone from 'outside' could do this much damage to a professionally administrated network. Just impossible.

Nothing's impossible, but I agree that it's improbable and most importantly inefficient. If you have the resources to dismantle PSN, there are much easier and waaaaaaaay more profitable targets to go after. In short, I don't think that this is a robbery. It's either industrial sabotage or (most likely) some sort of massive fuckup by Sony that they really don't want to admit.

 

[Casual Shinji]

Thank god I do my PSN prepaid...

My thoughts exactly!

Though if any of those credit card users do have their personal info stolen, that whole Geohotz hacking will have felt like a square dance to Sony in comparison. Just when Sony was getting its act together, all this shit happens.

 

[Danpascooch]

If they were "unsure" of this they should have told their users fucking immediately so that they could cancel their PSN linked credit cards if they wanted to. Way to potentially give identity thieves a weeks head start Sony!

If I had a credit card on PSN and had my identity stolen over this, I would totally sue Sony for not announcing the potential for stolen financial data earlier.

danpascooch v. SCEA. I can't wait. Years from now, law professors will be assigning the landmark danpascooch case to their law students as required reading.

Are you saying it would be insane to sue them for that? Weren't you the one who just a week or so ago was saying a class action lawsuit against Geohotz was justified?

I'm saying that if Sony lost my financial data and didn't inform me of it, and I lost thousands because I didn't know to cancel my card because of Sony's silence. Then yeah, that's negligence with quantifiable damages.

Of course this doesn't apply to me, which I made clear in my post.

 

[RaikuFA]

will they redeem anyones funds if it happened? or will they blame the consumer?

 

[SnakeCL]

If they were "unsure" of this they should have told their users fucking immediately so that they could cancel their PSN linked credit cards if they wanted to. Way to potentially give identity thieves a weeks head start Sony!

If I had a credit card on PSN and had my identity stolen over this, I would totally sue Sony for not announcing the potential for stolen financial data earlier.

danpascooch v. SCEA. I can't wait. Years from now, law professors will be assigning the landmark danpascooch case to their law students as required reading.

Are you saying it would be insane to sue them for that? Weren't you the one who just a week or so ago was saying a class action lawsuit against Geohotz was justified?

I'm saying that if Sony lost my financial data and didn't inform me of it, and I lost thousands because I didn't know to cancel my card because of Sony's silence. Then yeah, that's negligence with quantifiable damages.

Of course this doesn't apply to me, which I made clear in my post.

If your card company doesn't inform you that there's a plethora of charges or strange activity from your card, then seriously, your card company sucks.

Normally, in these situations the main company does not inform the user directly. It informs the various credit card companies, who then issue new cards and let their customers know.

 

[Sniper Team 4]

This is why I've never put my credit card on PSN or Xbox Live. I always have and always will buy those cards from stores and use them.

Why is no one mad at the hackers, the ones that actually caused all of this? Is it because you can't put a face on them, and Sony's an easier target?

 

[SnakeCL]

Well, you get what you pay for I guess....

Are you suggesting the fact that the service is not directly paid for implies Sony doesn't have any responsibility to provide it?

Sony is handling this terribly.

If they have lost peoples details and this results in them having money stolen, sony better damn well pay these people back.

Except, its not like Sony is "paying" for damages. It would be a double-whammy from the credit-card companies and Sony to prosecute whoever attacked in the first place.

Really, I'm detecting a large lack of understanding of how credit card information breaches are handled by the world at-large.

 

[Danpascooch]

If they were "unsure" of this they should have told their users fucking immediately so that they could cancel their PSN linked credit cards if they wanted to. Way to potentially give identity thieves a weeks head start Sony!

If I had a credit card on PSN and had my identity stolen over this, I would totally sue Sony for not announcing the potential for stolen financial data earlier.

danpascooch v. SCEA. I can't wait. Years from now, law professors will be assigning the landmark danpascooch case to their law students as required reading.

Are you saying it would be insane to sue them for that? Weren't you the one who just a week or so ago was saying a class action lawsuit against Geohotz was justified?

I'm saying that if Sony lost my financial data and didn't inform me of it, and I lost thousands because I didn't know to cancel my card because of Sony's silence. Then yeah, that's negligence with quantifiable damages.

Of course this doesn't apply to me, which I made clear in my post.

If your card company doesn't inform you that there's a plethora of charges or strange activity from your card, then seriously, your card company sucks.

Normally, in these situations the main company does not inform the user directly. It informs the various credit card companies, who then issue new cards and let their customers know.

Well, here's the status right now:

Sony: Maybe it was stolen
Credit Card Companies: *not informing cardholders or issuing new cards*

so yeah, that's not happening.

Sure your credit card company tries to inform you once they start using it (that is, if they can even tell the charge is suspicious) but what if the first time they use the card is for a multi-thousand dollar shopping spree? These guys KNOW that once they start using it it will be canceled, they aren't going to buy a pack of gum and then not use it again for a week.

 

[Fruitloops89]

This is the only thing that'd concerned me about this whole thing. I've already been hit with identity theft once this year, I don't need it again.

(Side Note: Are some people really using this to revive a dead fanboy war?)

I was unaware the fanboy war was resolved.