Sony to PS3 Detractors: Go Sell Razor Blades

[oliveira8]

wot i liek s3d!

Mass Effect 2 is a multiplat.
Alan Wake has yet to show gameplay footgae. That would be fine, but its been talked about for 4 years. Vapourware?
Cry on=http://au.xbox360.ign.com/articles/941/941071p1.html
APB is only PC - if there's a 360 version there will be a Ps3 version.
Splinter Cell COnviction is 2010 at the earliest (and never if the world is lucky)

Final Fantasy Versus XIII is 2010.
You're missing Afrika and Eyepet
Yakuza 3 won't be seeing the west til 2010 at the very earliest.

Well Mass Effect isn't coming out on PS3

What are you basing that on?

The fact the first didn't come out on PS3 and this: [link]http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/4783.html[/link] besides I think they would at least make Mass Effect for the PS3 first and that isn't going to happen as of what I have heard. Unless you have some brand new exciting news on a surprise announcement from Bioware?

No new news, just old news that you keep forgetting - EA confirmed the game is going multiplatform.

If you will show me the evidence that Mass Effect 2 is definatley coming out on the PS3?

I don't - you just have to give a reliable source that its not, and until then we go with the more likely idea, that EA are in fact doing what they said and it is going multiplatform.

What? That is like saying if there is no evidence to not support me baking a cookie, you just assume I will because the people who make the cookie tins confirm that I might make some chocolate muffins.

I got a link from Kotaku

http://kotaku.com/5145813/mass-effect-2-coming-in-2010-will-be-multiplatform

There is no SPECIFICS it will be PS3 or just 360 and PC,but it still opens up the option for debate.

Regardless the original point being debated (will Mass Effect 2 be Multi-Platform) is confirmed as Yes, because it is definitly coming out on the PC.

The fact that they specified that it will be multiplatform specifically when the first was on the said platforms and never specified as such raises a few questions.

Fair point, although this is EA we are talking about aside from the fact they don't actually make the game and it would be interesting to see why Bioware haven't mention the fabled ps3 release. At all. Ever.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.98981

Aparently no Mass Effect 2 for the PS3.

I'm failing to see the words "No ps3 ever" there.

Dont you see the "Mass Effect 2 will be released for both platforms at the same time." and no PS3 in the entire article.

If Bioware is not releasing for the PS3 at the same time as the Xbox 360 and PC doesnt really mean that the PS3 will never see ME2..just means that the PS3 might see ME2 with a shaddy port.

Either way its a moot point for the purposes here. This leaves us with the 360's games for 2009 having....nothing interesting. Exactly like I said.

Well maybe the 360 doesnt have any good 2009 exclusives and maybe they will have who knows, maybe Microsoft is going to announce their 2009 killer game for Christmas time...or maybe they wont. Either way if 2009 exclusives are interesting or not depends on the persons point of view. The same goes for the PS3 exclusives.

 

[level250geek]

By following this thread I've learned three things:

1. PS3 Fanboys really are that bad.
My best friend owns a PS3 and he absolutely, positively refuses to acknowledge any flaws the console/the software library has. If anybody says anything other than "The PS3 is the greatest gaming console--nay, the greatest piece of technology--known to man and it has games that are so good all other games should just shrivel up and die" he's on them like a rabid wolf on a stuck pig. I thought he was unique. I was wrong. I'll make fun of the Red Ring of Death all day long. I'll listen to other people make fun of it. The 360 is my system of choice but it's not perfect. No piece of technology is. That's what happens when you're not a fanboy: you can acknowledge weaknesses.

2. Nobody wants their feelings hurt.
Because forum posters have to preface everything they say with "In my opinion," and conclude it with "...but I could be wrong." Also, one must fully acknowledge the primacy of an object in question and admit they simply refuse to acknowledge said object's primacy, lest anyone be accused of thinking something is better.

3. I don't want a PS3.
The PS3 has many good games, exclusive or otherwise, but from where I'm standing when you stack up the offerings on both consoles--both retail and online--the 360 edges out. Just because something is inferior doesn't mean it's bad. However, the PS3 is not worth its price tag because of its software library. If the price went down, I might get one, but now I won't even it dropped down to $50 with a $250 rebate: I don't want to be a fanboy or thought to be fanboy.

Thank you and good night.

 

[oliveira8]

By following this thread I've learned three things:

1. PS3 Fanboys really are that bad.
My best friend owns a PS3 and he absolutely, positively refuses to acknowledge any flaws the console/the software library has. If anybody says anything other than "The PS3 is the greatest gaming console--nay, the greatest piece of technology--known to man and it has games that are so good all other games should just shrivel up and die" he's on them like a rabid wolf on a stuck pig. I thought he was unique. I was wrong. I'll make fun of the Red Ring of Death all day long. I'll listen to other people make fun of it. The 360 is my system of choice but it's not perfect. No piece of technology is. That's what happens when you're not a fanboy: you can acknowledge weaknesses.

2. Nobody wants their feelings hurt.
Because forum posters have to preface everything they say with "In my opinion," and conclude it with "...but I could be wrong." Also, one must fully acknowledge the primacy of an object in question and admit they simply refuse to acknowledge said object's primacy, lest anyone be accused of thinking something is better.

3. I don't want a PS3.
The PS3 has many good games, exclusive or otherwise, but from where I'm standing when you stack up the offerings on both consoles--both retail and online--the 360 edges out. Just because something is inferior doesn't mean it's bad. However, the PS3 is not worth its price tag because of its software library. If the price went down, I might get one, but now I won't even it dropped down to $50 with a $250 rebate: I don't want to be a fanboy or thought to be fanboy.

Thank you and good night.

Whatever he said. I still say that PS3 vs Xbox 360 discussions are pathetic when Nitendo Wii has already won and is spending all the Wii money on booze and whores.

 

[Calobi]

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(Case in point: I got an XBOX 360 for FREE and have bought a dozen games already!)
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How'd you swing that deal? Also, I figured that the razor thing had to do with shaving the prices for the other groups' products, but your thing makes way more sense.

 

[oliveira8]

wot i liek s3d!

Mass Effect 2 is a multiplat.
Alan Wake has yet to show gameplay footgae. That would be fine, but its been talked about for 4 years. Vapourware?
Cry on=http://au.xbox360.ign.com/articles/941/941071p1.html
APB is only PC - if there's a 360 version there will be a Ps3 version.
Splinter Cell COnviction is 2010 at the earliest (and never if the world is lucky)

Final Fantasy Versus XIII is 2010.
You're missing Afrika and Eyepet
Yakuza 3 won't be seeing the west til 2010 at the very earliest.

Well Mass Effect isn't coming out on PS3

What are you basing that on?

The fact the first didn't come out on PS3 and this: [link]http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/4783.html[/link] besides I think they would at least make Mass Effect for the PS3 first and that isn't going to happen as of what I have heard. Unless you have some brand new exciting news on a surprise announcement from Bioware?

No new news, just old news that you keep forgetting - EA confirmed the game is going multiplatform.

If you will show me the evidence that Mass Effect 2 is definatley coming out on the PS3?

I don't - you just have to give a reliable source that its not, and until then we go with the more likely idea, that EA are in fact doing what they said and it is going multiplatform.

What? That is like saying if there is no evidence to not support me baking a cookie, you just assume I will because the people who make the cookie tins confirm that I might make some chocolate muffins.

I got a link from Kotaku

http://kotaku.com/5145813/mass-effect-2-coming-in-2010-will-be-multiplatform

There is no SPECIFICS it will be PS3 or just 360 and PC,but it still opens up the option for debate.

Regardless the original point being debated (will Mass Effect 2 be Multi-Platform) is confirmed as Yes, because it is definitly coming out on the PC.

The fact that they specified that it will be multiplatform specifically when the first was on the said platforms and never specified as such raises a few questions.

Fair point, although this is EA we are talking about aside from the fact they don't actually make the game and it would be interesting to see why Bioware haven't mention the fabled ps3 release. At all. Ever.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.98981

Aparently no Mass Effect 2 for the PS3.

I'm failing to see the words "No ps3 ever" there.

Dont you see the "Mass Effect 2 will be released for both platforms at the same time." and no PS3 in the entire article.

If Bioware is not releasing for the PS3 at the same time as the Xbox 360 and PC doesnt really mean that the PS3 will never see ME2..just means that the PS3 might see ME2 with a shaddy port.

Either way its a moot point for the purposes here. This leaves us with the 360's games for 2009 having....nothing interesting. Exactly like I said.

Well maybe the 360 doesnt have any good 2009 exclusives and maybe they will have who knows, maybe Microsoft is going to announce their 2009 killer game for Christmas time...or maybe they wont. Either way if 2009 exclusives are interesting or not depends on the persons point of view. The same goes for the PS3 exclusives.

No. There's really no genre that the Ps3 doesn't deliver on extremely well with its 2009 line-up, while here's no genre that the 360 actually delivers something valid or interesting on.

No. There's really no genre that the Xbox 360 doesn't deliver on extremely well with its 2009 line-up, while there's no genre that the Ps3 actually delivers something valid or interesting on.

C wut I did ther?

 

[Brotherofwill]

By following this thread I've learned three things:

1. PS3 Fanboys really are that bad.
My best friend owns a PS3 and he absolutely, positively refuses to acknowledge any flaws the console/the software library has. If anybody says anything other than "The PS3 is the greatest gaming console--nay, the greatest piece of technology--known to man and it has games that are so good all other games should just shrivel up and die" he's on them like a rabid wolf on a stuck pig. I thought he was unique. I was wrong. I'll make fun of the Red Ring of Death all day long. I'll listen to other people make fun of it. The 360 is my system of choice but it's not perfect. No piece of technology is. That's what happens when you're not a fanboy: you can acknowledge weaknesses.

2. Nobody wants their feelings hurt.
Because forum posters have to preface everything they say with "In my opinion," and conclude it with "...but I could be wrong." Also, one must fully acknowledge the primacy of an object in question and admit they simply refuse to acknowledge said object's primacy, lest anyone be accused of thinking something is better.

3. I don't want a PS3.
The PS3 has many good games, exclusive or otherwise, but from where I'm standing when you stack up the offerings on both consoles--both retail and online--the 360 edges out. Just because something is inferior doesn't mean it's bad. However, the PS3 is not worth its price tag because of its software library. If the price went down, I might get one, but now I won't even it dropped down to $50 with a $250 rebate: I don't want to be a fanboy or thought to be fanboy.

Thank you and good night.

From your "MGS is only full of mediocre cutscenes and a few specs of gameplay" I think you might actually be kind of a fanboy...but not that I care.

Anyway, all Fanboys are alike, it doesn't matter what console they choose. I'm really hating this generation of consoles just because of the fan wars. Maybe your friend's an insecure little man, but that doesn't really add to the argument.

And I don't think any PS3 owner can not acknowlegde the price point, it's not like it's just a myth.

 

[FinalGamer]

And THIS is exactly why I will never buy a PS3.
EDIT:cursed a lot.EDIT

Please don't curse! Or you'll be banned for awhile and it makes you look like an idiot for not being able to get your point across without cursing.

Oh damn, thanks for the heads up, I'll restrain myself from now on despite the....raaaage.

If you do want to be insulting, check out a proper way to do so a few pages back, when I was going after Dingo. It insults, but it does so politely, an art which relies on a bizzare form of emotional restraint. Oddly enough, we seem to have hit an accord now, showing that an effective use of language can lead to a civil resolution.

I was ranting, there was no time to be polite which would not make it ranting anymore. I don't WANT to resolve matters with Sony, THEY are the ones who're flipping the bird to Europe.
But for the sake of civility on this forum I'll put away my swearing thesaurus except for crucial emergencies. I'm actually unclear on the rules of language on here so best not overstep.

 

[Doug]

Stubborn Sony. If you had priced your console reasonably then I probably would own a PS3 rather than a 360 right now. I simply will not pay extra for blu-ray when I have no interest in it. Shame, but oh well.

My sentiments exactly. I'm not interested in the Blu-ray at this time and am just not willing to fork over the extra money. I had a PS1 and a PS2, but went with the Xbox 360 this time around simply because of price.

Agreed.

So you honestly have no interest in LittleBigPlanet, Metal Gear Solid 4, or Killzone 2?

LittleBigPlanet looks fun, but not for long before it gets dull. The entire Metal Gear series can jump off a cliff for all I care. As for Killzone 2, it looks nice, but not exactly new - graphically brilliant but nothing really new elsewise. Aside from replacing Nazi's with British techno-Nazi's.

And regardless of Dille's protest, Hickey predicts a price cut of $50-100 in either March or April, a cut that would be good news for publishers but much tougher to swallow for Sony, which is still manufacturing the PlayStation 3 at a loss. "It's an easy equation for [publishers]," Wilson added, "but it's very different from the one that Sony has to take on."

HOW? How are they making a loss on this? Why on Earth do they have the most expensive console and still sell for a loss? You don't have to be an expert in manufacturing to release "Cost to make < Price sold at"

Which leaves just one question: What the hell does selling razor blades have to do with it?

Anyone answered this yet?

 

[Aqualung]

I would eagerly buy a PS3 if it were a reasonable price (especially reasonable considering our recession.) Which would lead to me owning a Wii, an XBox 360 and a PS3.. No more exclusives.. /sigh

 

[oliveira8]

wot i liek s3d!

Mass Effect 2 is a multiplat.
Alan Wake has yet to show gameplay footgae. That would be fine, but its been talked about for 4 years. Vapourware?
Cry on=http://au.xbox360.ign.com/articles/941/941071p1.html
APB is only PC - if there's a 360 version there will be a Ps3 version.
Splinter Cell COnviction is 2010 at the earliest (and never if the world is lucky)

Final Fantasy Versus XIII is 2010.
You're missing Afrika and Eyepet
Yakuza 3 won't be seeing the west til 2010 at the very earliest.

Well Mass Effect isn't coming out on PS3

What are you basing that on?

The fact the first didn't come out on PS3 and this: [link]http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/4783.html[/link] besides I think they would at least make Mass Effect for the PS3 first and that isn't going to happen as of what I have heard. Unless you have some brand new exciting news on a surprise announcement from Bioware?

No new news, just old news that you keep forgetting - EA confirmed the game is going multiplatform.

If you will show me the evidence that Mass Effect 2 is definatley coming out on the PS3?

I don't - you just have to give a reliable source that its not, and until then we go with the more likely idea, that EA are in fact doing what they said and it is going multiplatform.

What? That is like saying if there is no evidence to not support me baking a cookie, you just assume I will because the people who make the cookie tins confirm that I might make some chocolate muffins.

I got a link from Kotaku

http://kotaku.com/5145813/mass-effect-2-coming-in-2010-will-be-multiplatform

There is no SPECIFICS it will be PS3 or just 360 and PC,but it still opens up the option for debate.

Regardless the original point being debated (will Mass Effect 2 be Multi-Platform) is confirmed as Yes, because it is definitly coming out on the PC.

The fact that they specified that it will be multiplatform specifically when the first was on the said platforms and never specified as such raises a few questions.

Fair point, although this is EA we are talking about aside from the fact they don't actually make the game and it would be interesting to see why Bioware haven't mention the fabled ps3 release. At all. Ever.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.98981

Aparently no Mass Effect 2 for the PS3.

I'm failing to see the words "No ps3 ever" there.

Dont you see the "Mass Effect 2 will be released for both platforms at the same time." and no PS3 in the entire article.

If Bioware is not releasing for the PS3 at the same time as the Xbox 360 and PC doesnt really mean that the PS3 will never see ME2..just means that the PS3 might see ME2 with a shaddy port.

Either way its a moot point for the purposes here. This leaves us with the 360's games for 2009 having....nothing interesting. Exactly like I said.

Well maybe the 360 doesnt have any good 2009 exclusives and maybe they will have who knows, maybe Microsoft is going to announce their 2009 killer game for Christmas time...or maybe they wont. Either way if 2009 exclusives are interesting or not depends on the persons point of view. The same goes for the PS3 exclusives.

No. There's really no genre that the Ps3 doesn't deliver on extremely well with its 2009 line-up, while here's no genre that the 360 actually delivers something valid or interesting on.

No. There's really no genre that the Xbox 360 doesn't deliver on extremely well with its 2009 line-up, while there's no genre that the Ps3 actually delivers something valid or interesting on.

C wut I did ther?

Yeah told a lie, you might wanna back that point up a little. Indigo allready has as have I except Indigo only counts english releases and I count world wide.

I wont back up on my point. Put yourself on the shoes of a 360 owner you will be looking forward for the 360 exclusives, the same way a PS3 owner is looking forward to the PS3 exclusives.

 

[bodyklok]

Which leaves just one question: What the hell does selling razor blades have to do with it?

Anyone answered this yet?

I think sony is trying to say "Anyone who disagres with us can go make something retarded like a razor blade" Maybe it has something to do with the new gillette power gamer razor that just got released?

 

[Doug]

LittleBigPlanet looks fun, but not for long before it gets dull. The entire Metal Gear series can jump off a cliff for all I care. As for Killzone 2, it looks nice, but not exactly new - graphically brilliant but nothing really new elsewise. Aside from replacing Nazi's with British techno-Nazi's.

If that's your perogative that's fine. Have you actually played any of them?

MGS, yeah. The second one, I believe with was (with the oil platform?). Either LittleBigPlanet or Killzone 2 would require me to purchase a PS3. May I ask, have you played any 360, PC, or Wii games?

HOW? How are they making a loss on this? Why on Earth do they have the most expensive console and still sell for a loss? You don't have to be an expert in manufacturing to release "Cost to make < Price sold at"

What are you- ugh? BECAUSE IF IT WAS PRICED CORRECTLY IT WOULD COST MORE! People ***** ON AND ON about how it's over priced when it is UNDER priced.

So its non-competitive commerically? Hell, it was Sony and the other Japanese electronics companies who were meant to have shown the Westerners like us how to run business.

Anyone answered this yet?

Plenty of people, selling the handle for razor blades is sold at a loss, the blades themselves make the money.

Personally nicer than what I would have told them, I would have told them to go **** a toaster.

Ah, I see.