Sony to PS3 Detractors: Go Sell Razor Blades

[scotth266]

Whatever he said. I still say that PS3 vs Xbox 360 discussions are pathetic when Nitendo Wii has already won and is spending all the Wii money on booze and whores.

First off: I gotta stay on top of this stuff, as the thread grew by a page while I played TF2...

But yeah, Nintendo in terms of sales has totally won the console/handheld wars. Kinda pointless to argue otherwise. I think that the PS3 might not have a 7 mill tail-behind on the 360 if it had been cheaper from the start, but hey, whaddya gonna do?
In the end, Nintendo showed us hardware doesn't matter: innovation and appealing to a broad audience does.

No. There's really no genre that the Ps3 doesn't deliver on extremely well with its 2009 line-up, while here's no genre that the 360 actually delivers something valid or interesting on.

Dingo...I'm warning you, you were on my good side. Don't start another war when we were starting to be civil. It may be your opinion that the 360 has nothing good coming out, but that's your opinion. Others think differently.

the SIXAXIS is by no means unique or original, but I would have prefered Nintendo use the regular motion control over needing a sensor bar personally. It's been used quite umm... well I would say intrestingly, such as the Tornado gun in Ratchet and Clank, Flying in Ratchet and Clank, and well... Ratchet and Clank used the SIXAXIS well, though it took a while to get down.

Valkyria Chronicles is an underrated GEM that got left in the dust by Sega not producing enough to fill a small store, but it seemingly crosses Sakurs Wars combat with shooter elements in an SRPG setting.

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I believe your refering to the 360 being cheaper, at which point I say so what? Games won't be any cheaper on the 360 and the majority of it's games are avaliable on the PC.

There is nothing that can simply match Dis 3 and WKC on he 360, nor anything that matchs VC, Shooters are another story all together and the PS3 has games which hold more players.

I have still yet to see a mindlessly fun Platformer on the 360.

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The one game I WOULD consider making the purchase for? Operation Troy? in japanese only so I would have to buy a Japanese 360.

Region-Free PS3 makes me Happy.

Sorry for spitting up several posts Omni, here's my thoughts:

R&C does have the best sixaxis controls I've messed with yet, and I have to agree with you that the tornado gun is a wonderful idea, implemented well (though it did mess up sometimes...) I liked the skydiving use more though.

I've heard good things about VK, so when I get a PS3 I'll buy that for sure.

If you could find a ratio of the 360 games that have been ported to computer, I would take that bit a little more seriously... Besides, MS controls both platforms in a way, no?

The next bit: it is true that 60-player games on 360 have yet to appear, but don't use that as an argument unless it's technically impossible for the 360 to do the same. All that means to me right now is that 360 devs don't want to be bothered, and I can hardly blame them: programming online stuff is a pain.

As for the platformer, try Naruto: Rise of a Ninja. I know I shall be shunned, but it is fun, and it also is a simple fighting game as well. Admittedly, there aren't many other platformers sringing to mind at the moment, but I'm sure there's others.

Operation Troy? Got a link to some info I can see?
As for the region-free thing, do all PS3's go like that? If so, I'm suprised: Region-free stuff encourages piracy, does it not? It is cool though.

And I agree with the dude that had the PM idea: from now on, I'll accept PM's with arguments, but to keep this thread clear of futher flak I won't respond to thread posts.

 

[Doug]

Difference is I'm reflecting reality and you're being an idiot.

....you realise you're talking about games, right? How can you assume that your own personal tastes match every single person's on earth?

 

[oliveira8]

LittleBigPlanet looks fun, but not for long before it gets dull. The entire Metal Gear series can jump off a cliff for all I care. As for Killzone 2, it looks nice, but not exactly new - graphically brilliant but nothing really new elsewise. Aside from replacing Nazi's with British techno-Nazi's.

If that's your perogative that's fine. Have you actually played any of them?

MGS, yeah. The second one, I believe with was (with the oil platform?). Either LittleBigPlanet or Killzone 2 would require me to purchase a PS3. May I ask, have you played any 360, PC, or Wii games?

HOW? How are they making a loss on this? Why on Earth do they have the most expensive console and still sell for a loss? You don't have to be an expert in manufacturing to release "Cost to make < Price sold at"

What are you- ugh? BECAUSE IF IT WAS PRICED CORRECTLY IT WOULD COST MORE! People ***** ON AND ON about how it's over priced when it is UNDER priced.

So its non-competitive commerically? Hell, it was Sony and the other Japanese electronics companies who were meant to have shown the Westerners like us how to run business.

Ugh. how many times do I have to freaking say this

*plats Neon sign in the ground with fireworks* I OWN MULTIPLE CONSOLES! PERSONALLY A PS3, WII, AND DS AND VIA PROXY THE PSP AND 360!!! I USE MY PC FOR GAMING TO!!!

IS THIS A HARD CONCEPT FOR PEOPLE TO GET? DO I HAVE TO KILL SOMEONE?


Sorry... It's just so damn ANNOYING how many times I have to say it, yes of course I have played games from all of them, I never say anything is bad WITHOUT playing it.

Then again Australia actually has a proper return policy for Video Games.

Also the idea is that a console is sold beneath what it costs to produce, because the money from games will bring it back up to scratch, the 360 sold at a loss to. But it got in a year earlier.

If the PS3 was sold at what it COST then it would have cost more than $600 U.S. on release.

Dude not everyone on this boards knows who owns what.

I dont even own a console...and I think one or two judge me as a Wii or Xbox 360 fanboy...

 

[oliveira8]

wot i liek s3d!

Mass Effect 2 is a multiplat.
Alan Wake has yet to show gameplay footgae. That would be fine, but its been talked about for 4 years. Vapourware?
Cry on=http://au.xbox360.ign.com/articles/941/941071p1.html
APB is only PC - if there's a 360 version there will be a Ps3 version.
Splinter Cell COnviction is 2010 at the earliest (and never if the world is lucky)

Final Fantasy Versus XIII is 2010.
You're missing Afrika and Eyepet
Yakuza 3 won't be seeing the west til 2010 at the very earliest.

Well Mass Effect isn't coming out on PS3

What are you basing that on?

The fact the first didn't come out on PS3 and this: [link]http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/4783.html[/link] besides I think they would at least make Mass Effect for the PS3 first and that isn't going to happen as of what I have heard. Unless you have some brand new exciting news on a surprise announcement from Bioware?

No new news, just old news that you keep forgetting - EA confirmed the game is going multiplatform.

If you will show me the evidence that Mass Effect 2 is definatley coming out on the PS3?

I don't - you just have to give a reliable source that its not, and until then we go with the more likely idea, that EA are in fact doing what they said and it is going multiplatform.

What? That is like saying if there is no evidence to not support me baking a cookie, you just assume I will because the people who make the cookie tins confirm that I might make some chocolate muffins.

I got a link from Kotaku

http://kotaku.com/5145813/mass-effect-2-coming-in-2010-will-be-multiplatform

There is no SPECIFICS it will be PS3 or just 360 and PC,but it still opens up the option for debate.

Regardless the original point being debated (will Mass Effect 2 be Multi-Platform) is confirmed as Yes, because it is definitly coming out on the PC.

The fact that they specified that it will be multiplatform specifically when the first was on the said platforms and never specified as such raises a few questions.

Fair point, although this is EA we are talking about aside from the fact they don't actually make the game and it would be interesting to see why Bioware haven't mention the fabled ps3 release. At all. Ever.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.98981

Aparently no Mass Effect 2 for the PS3.

I'm failing to see the words "No ps3 ever" there.

Dont you see the "Mass Effect 2 will be released for both platforms at the same time." and no PS3 in the entire article.

If Bioware is not releasing for the PS3 at the same time as the Xbox 360 and PC doesnt really mean that the PS3 will never see ME2..just means that the PS3 might see ME2 with a shaddy port.

Either way its a moot point for the purposes here. This leaves us with the 360's games for 2009 having....nothing interesting. Exactly like I said.

Well maybe the 360 doesnt have any good 2009 exclusives and maybe they will have who knows, maybe Microsoft is going to announce their 2009 killer game for Christmas time...or maybe they wont. Either way if 2009 exclusives are interesting or not depends on the persons point of view. The same goes for the PS3 exclusives.

No. There's really no genre that the Ps3 doesn't deliver on extremely well with its 2009 line-up, while here's no genre that the 360 actually delivers something valid or interesting on.

No. There's really no genre that the Xbox 360 doesn't deliver on extremely well with its 2009 line-up, while there's no genre that the Ps3 actually delivers something valid or interesting on.

C wut I did ther?

Difference is I'm reflecting reality and you're being an idiot.

Fine, you want me to prove it?

JRPG - White Knight Chronicles

Action RPG - Demon Souls

FPS - Killzone 2

TPS - Quantum Theory

Action Adventure - Uncharted 2

Hack and Slash - God Of War III

Open World - inFAMOUS

Racer - Gran Turismo 5

Casual - Eyepet, Afrika

Online Multiplayer - MAG

Mystery - Heavy Rain

Holy-shit-everyone-must-play-this-including-you - Trico

So I am an idiot cause I dont think that the PS3 2009 exclusives are the greatest thing ever to happen in gaming history?

Srsly dude, you sometimes make good threads and posts but when someone touches the PS3 and PS3 exclusives you just start spitting flames of hatred...

Tbh I start to think you are a Sony employee or Sonys President himself...

 

[Edhelgwae]

If the PS3 gets a price cut I will definitely be getting one and i'm sure others share the sentiment and are going to do the same. Street Fighter 4 is awesome and capcom should produce more redesign of their fighting games like Dark Stalkers.

Hope those douchebags in charge of the PS3 are going to change their minds.

 

[dagens24]

Anyone who doesn't see the value in the PS3 is obviously trying to be oblivious. It's a blu-ray player people. That along throws on atleast $150 onto the price tag. So is it really THAT expensive for what you're getting?

The problem with the PS3 is that its ahead of its time. Maybe they should have just released an everyman console that has a 1/3 failure ratio (if you're lucky). Sony just can't win.

 

[oliveira8]

wot i liek s3d!

Mass Effect 2 is a multiplat.
Alan Wake has yet to show gameplay footgae. That would be fine, but its been talked about for 4 years. Vapourware?
Cry on=http://au.xbox360.ign.com/articles/941/941071p1.html
APB is only PC - if there's a 360 version there will be a Ps3 version.
Splinter Cell COnviction is 2010 at the earliest (and never if the world is lucky)

Final Fantasy Versus XIII is 2010.
You're missing Afrika and Eyepet
Yakuza 3 won't be seeing the west til 2010 at the very earliest.

Well Mass Effect isn't coming out on PS3

What are you basing that on?

The fact the first didn't come out on PS3 and this: [link]http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/4783.html[/link] besides I think they would at least make Mass Effect for the PS3 first and that isn't going to happen as of what I have heard. Unless you have some brand new exciting news on a surprise announcement from Bioware?

No new news, just old news that you keep forgetting - EA confirmed the game is going multiplatform.

If you will show me the evidence that Mass Effect 2 is definatley coming out on the PS3?

I don't - you just have to give a reliable source that its not, and until then we go with the more likely idea, that EA are in fact doing what they said and it is going multiplatform.

What? That is like saying if there is no evidence to not support me baking a cookie, you just assume I will because the people who make the cookie tins confirm that I might make some chocolate muffins.

I got a link from Kotaku

http://kotaku.com/5145813/mass-effect-2-coming-in-2010-will-be-multiplatform

There is no SPECIFICS it will be PS3 or just 360 and PC,but it still opens up the option for debate.

Regardless the original point being debated (will Mass Effect 2 be Multi-Platform) is confirmed as Yes, because it is definitly coming out on the PC.

The fact that they specified that it will be multiplatform specifically when the first was on the said platforms and never specified as such raises a few questions.

Fair point, although this is EA we are talking about aside from the fact they don't actually make the game and it would be interesting to see why Bioware haven't mention the fabled ps3 release. At all. Ever.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.98981

Aparently no Mass Effect 2 for the PS3.

I'm failing to see the words "No ps3 ever" there.

Dont you see the "Mass Effect 2 will be released for both platforms at the same time." and no PS3 in the entire article.

If Bioware is not releasing for the PS3 at the same time as the Xbox 360 and PC doesnt really mean that the PS3 will never see ME2..just means that the PS3 might see ME2 with a shaddy port.

Either way its a moot point for the purposes here. This leaves us with the 360's games for 2009 having....nothing interesting. Exactly like I said.

Well maybe the 360 doesnt have any good 2009 exclusives and maybe they will have who knows, maybe Microsoft is going to announce their 2009 killer game for Christmas time...or maybe they wont. Either way if 2009 exclusives are interesting or not depends on the persons point of view. The same goes for the PS3 exclusives.

No. There's really no genre that the Ps3 doesn't deliver on extremely well with its 2009 line-up, while here's no genre that the 360 actually delivers something valid or interesting on.

No. There's really no genre that the Xbox 360 doesn't deliver on extremely well with its 2009 line-up, while there's no genre that the Ps3 actually delivers something valid or interesting on.

C wut I did ther?

Difference is I'm reflecting reality and you're being an idiot.

Fine, you want me to prove it?

JRPG - White Knight Chronicles

Action RPG - Demon Souls

FPS - Killzone 2

TPS - Quantum Theory

Action Adventure - Uncharted 2

Hack and Slash - God Of War III

Open World - inFAMOUS

Racer - Gran Turismo 5

Casual - Eyepet, Afrika

Online Multiplayer - MAG

Mystery - Heavy Rain

Holy-shit-everyone-must-play-this-including-you - Trico

So I am an idiot cause I dont think that the PS3 2009 exclusives are the greatest thing ever to happen in gaming history?

Srsly dude, you sometimes make good threads and posts but when someone touches the PS3 and PS3 exclusives you just start spitting flames of hatred...

Tbh I start to think you are a Sony employee or Sonys President himself...

No you're an idiot because you made a statement and won't back up your point. Back it up and all claims of 'idiot' will be retracted. How diverse is the 2009 release? and by Diverse we mean gaming Genres

I didnt even made that post with seriousness. Hell I just did it to make a point. That someone that likes X console will enjoy their exclusives as much as the Y console owner will enjoy his Y console exclusives.

I can do the same with the Wii

No. There's really no genre that the Wii doesn't deliver on extremely well with its 2009 line-up, while there's no genre that the Ps3/Xbox 360 actually delivers something valid or interesting on.

How hard is to get if you like the console you have you will enjoy the games that will come out for the said console. WHile you wont give a shit about the other console exclusives. And if you all 3 good for you!

The thing is that Indigo is making the 2009 PS3 exclusives something made by God himself while the 360 are made by peasants.

((By the way MAYBE! one of the reasons that Gundam game is only being released for the Japanese is cause MS thinks that its were its going to sell more and help boosting the sales in Japan. But yeah pretty stupid to release a game in Japan only.))

 

[Doug]

Difference is I'm reflecting reality and you're being an idiot.

....you realise you're talking about games, right? How can you assume that your own personal tastes match every single person's on earth?

Fair point. I guess we should all go arnound saying that Iron Man: The Videogame is just as good as The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, since people could hold either higher.

You know what, forget it. I thought you could be reasoned with, but no.

Ugh. how many times do I have to freaking say this

*plats Neon sign in the ground with fireworks* I OWN MULTIPLE CONSOLES! PERSONALLY A PS3, WII, AND DS AND VIA PROXY THE PSP AND 360!!! I USE MY PC FOR GAMING TO!!!

IS THIS A HARD CONCEPT FOR PEOPLE TO GET? DO I HAVE TO KILL SOMEONE?


Sorry... It's just so damn ANNOYING how many times I have to say it, yes of course I have played games from all of them, I never say anything is bad WITHOUT playing it.

Then again Australia actually has a proper return policy for Video Games.

Also the idea is that a console is sold beneath what it costs to produce, because the money from games will bring it back up to scratch, the 360 sold at a loss to. But it got in a year earlier.

If the PS3 was sold at what it COST then it would have cost more than $600 U.S. on release.

Apologies about the multi-platforming, I didn't see the majority of this thread. My fault.

And I knew the 360 sold at a loss, but I figured Microsoft where just doing that to try and ship wreck PS3 given they, as a company, have (or rather, had) the cash to keep that going.

I do think Sony are locked into a tough problem though, if this is the case. In order to make money from the games, people need to buy the console. In order for people to buy the console, they'll probably have to drop the price. If they drop the price, they have to sell more in order to cover the increased loses per unit sold.

 

[oliveira8]

wot i liek s3d!

Mass Effect 2 is a multiplat.
Alan Wake has yet to show gameplay footgae. That would be fine, but its been talked about for 4 years. Vapourware?
Cry on=http://au.xbox360.ign.com/articles/941/941071p1.html
APB is only PC - if there's a 360 version there will be a Ps3 version.
Splinter Cell COnviction is 2010 at the earliest (and never if the world is lucky)

Final Fantasy Versus XIII is 2010.
You're missing Afrika and Eyepet
Yakuza 3 won't be seeing the west til 2010 at the very earliest.

Well Mass Effect isn't coming out on PS3

What are you basing that on?

The fact the first didn't come out on PS3 and this: [link]http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/4783.html[/link] besides I think they would at least make Mass Effect for the PS3 first and that isn't going to happen as of what I have heard. Unless you have some brand new exciting news on a surprise announcement from Bioware?

No new news, just old news that you keep forgetting - EA confirmed the game is going multiplatform.

If you will show me the evidence that Mass Effect 2 is definatley coming out on the PS3?

I don't - you just have to give a reliable source that its not, and until then we go with the more likely idea, that EA are in fact doing what they said and it is going multiplatform.

What? That is like saying if there is no evidence to not support me baking a cookie, you just assume I will because the people who make the cookie tins confirm that I might make some chocolate muffins.

I got a link from Kotaku

http://kotaku.com/5145813/mass-effect-2-coming-in-2010-will-be-multiplatform

There is no SPECIFICS it will be PS3 or just 360 and PC,but it still opens up the option for debate.

Regardless the original point being debated (will Mass Effect 2 be Multi-Platform) is confirmed as Yes, because it is definitly coming out on the PC.

The fact that they specified that it will be multiplatform specifically when the first was on the said platforms and never specified as such raises a few questions.

Fair point, although this is EA we are talking about aside from the fact they don't actually make the game and it would be interesting to see why Bioware haven't mention the fabled ps3 release. At all. Ever.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.98981

Aparently no Mass Effect 2 for the PS3.

I'm failing to see the words "No ps3 ever" there.

Dont you see the "Mass Effect 2 will be released for both platforms at the same time." and no PS3 in the entire article.

If Bioware is not releasing for the PS3 at the same time as the Xbox 360 and PC doesnt really mean that the PS3 will never see ME2..just means that the PS3 might see ME2 with a shaddy port.

Either way its a moot point for the purposes here. This leaves us with the 360's games for 2009 having....nothing interesting. Exactly like I said.

Well maybe the 360 doesnt have any good 2009 exclusives and maybe they will have who knows, maybe Microsoft is going to announce their 2009 killer game for Christmas time...or maybe they wont. Either way if 2009 exclusives are interesting or not depends on the persons point of view. The same goes for the PS3 exclusives.

No. There's really no genre that the Ps3 doesn't deliver on extremely well with its 2009 line-up, while here's no genre that the 360 actually delivers something valid or interesting on.

No. There's really no genre that the Xbox 360 doesn't deliver on extremely well with its 2009 line-up, while there's no genre that the Ps3 actually delivers something valid or interesting on.

C wut I did ther?

Difference is I'm reflecting reality and you're being an idiot.

Fine, you want me to prove it?

JRPG - White Knight Chronicles

Action RPG - Demon Souls

FPS - Killzone 2

TPS - Quantum Theory

Action Adventure - Uncharted 2

Hack and Slash - God Of War III

Open World - inFAMOUS

Racer - Gran Turismo 5

Casual - Eyepet, Afrika

Online Multiplayer - MAG

Mystery - Heavy Rain

Holy-shit-everyone-must-play-this-including-you - Trico

So I am an idiot cause I dont think that the PS3 2009 exclusives are the greatest thing ever to happen in gaming history?

Srsly dude, you sometimes make good threads and posts but when someone touches the PS3 and PS3 exclusives you just start spitting flames of hatred...

Tbh I start to think you are a Sony employee or Sonys President himself...

No you're an idiot because you made a statement and won't back up your point. Back it up and all claims of 'idiot' will be retracted. How diverse is the 2009 release? and by Diverse we mean gaming Genres

I didnt even made that post with seriousness. Hell I just did it to make a point. That someone that likes X console will enjoy their exclusives as much as the Y console owner will enjoy his Y console exclusives.

I can do the same with the Wii

No. There's really no genre that the Wii doesn't deliver on extremely well with its 2009 line-up, while there's no genre that the Ps3/Xbox 360 actually delivers something valid or interesting on.

How hard is to get if you like the console you have you will enjoy the games that will come out for the said console. WHile you wont give a shit about the other console exclusives. And if you all 3 good for you!

The thing is that Indigo is making the 2009 PS3 exclusives something made by God himself while the 360 are made by peasants.

((By the way MAYBE! one of the reasons that Gundam game is only being released for the Japanese is cause MS thinks that its were its going to sell more and help boosting the sales in Japan. But yeah pretty stupid to release a game in Japan only.))

Yes but Indigo backed UP his statement, the fact is you just have thrown out TWO that haven't been backed up, in my view that makes you an idiot (if you were serious about it)no matter who you are, didn't you notice me along with everyone else ask Indigo about the ME 2 article?

I don't care who you are, back up your points or just pipe down.

And they won't release operation troy in english because Bandai-Namco has a FUCK YOU clause for other countries stating if they ever make a game WORTH playing and buying it will NOT be released in english.

Urg god urg...third time I have to explain this...AGAIN I WILL EXPLAIN THIS TIME IN CAPS!

SEE PS3OWNER LIKES HIS PS3 SO HE LIKES THE EXCLUSIVES THAT ARE COMING OUT FOR THE CONSOLE! WHILE THERES OTHER PEOPLE THAT DONT OWN A PS3, AND ARENT REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THE PS3 EXCLUSIVES INDEPENDENT IF THEY AWESOME OR NOT.

Now I'll do for a Xbox 360 user.


SEE XBOX360OWNER LIKES HIS XBOX360 SO HE LIKES THE EXCLUSIVES THAT ARE COMING OUT FOR THE CONSOLE! WHILE THERES OTHER PEOPLE THAT DONT OWN A XBOX360, AND ARENT REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THE XBOX360 EXCLUSIVES INDEPENDENT IF THEY AWESOME OR NOT.

Now the Wii

SEE WIIOWNER LIKES HIS WII SO HE LIKES THE EXCLUSIVES THAT ARE COMING OUT FOR THE CONSOLE! WHILE THERES OTHER PEOPLE THAT DONT OWN A WII, AND ARENT REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THE WII EXCLUSIVES INDEPENDENT IF THEY AWESOME OR NOT.

All I'am saying is that if the PS3 or Xbox 360 or Wii has the best 2009 exclusive line up it depends on the persons opinion over those games. Not cause somedude says it.

PSude you called me an idiot!! I'm so going to put a dead cat in your mailbox and a camel in you bathtub! THEN WE SHALL SEE WHO IS THE IDIOT!

PS2: Yes I know you have all 3 consoles that just means you have more games to look for.