Sony to PS3 Detractors: Go Sell Razor Blades

[Simriel]

Dear God the Sony fanboys are out in force tonight.

You said something stupid, and you were called on it.

Say something relativly intelligent and stop insulting everyone else on the board

*sighs* Sony for some reason seem to be trying to sell their ridiculously priced console on the exclusive games. But lets face it are 3 good exclusives and a Blu Ray player most people wont use enough to justify shelling out that cash?
(the games i mean are Killzone 2, MGS4, and GOW3 none of which I'm interested in, but a lot of people like)

Well if thats the criteria, the Ps3 really stacks up well against the 360, which has no decent games and never will have any decent games in any form, and just sits there, getting broken and more useless.

Hey look. The fanboy alarm. Lets ring it. AWOOGA AWOOGA!

Duly rung. Now arm those torpedos!

Because one has a future, and one doesn't. Lets just look at this years upcoming releases of pure and untapped awesome for the Ps3. You have God Of War III, Gran Turismo 5, MAG, White Knight Chronicles, God of War III, Heavy Rain, God of War III, inFAMOUS, God Of War III, Singstar Queen (people keep omitting it, and I don't begrudge that - it is Singstar, after all - but its still built around the works of the best group for random singing ever, Queen. I cannot count the number of times a group of friends and I have burst into spontaneous Bohemian Rhapsody's), God Of War III, and a fair amount of damn cool downloadable games. If you look at the 360, you've got jack shit, unless Alan Wake suprises everyone. The Ps3 has far greater potential for awesome than the 360, and is showing it in spades.

*sighs* Sony for some reason seem to be trying to sell their ridiculously priced console on the exclusive games. But lets face it are 3 good exclusives and a Blu Ray player most people wont use enough to justify shelling out that cash?
(the games i mean are Killzone 2, MGS4, and GOW3 none of which I'm interested in, but a lot of people like)

Well if thats the criteria, the Ps3 really stacks up well against the 360, which has no decent games and never will have any decent games in any form, and just sits there, getting broken and more useless.

Hey look. The fanboy alarm. Lets ring it. AWOOGA AWOOGA!

So its okay, even praiseable when he does it, but not when I point out the logical implications of what he's saying? Can you say hypocrite?

Ok, your response to Simriel's thing had absolutely NO logic behind it. You DENIED that the 360 has any good games, while he allowed for the fact that the PS3 does. This is the reason why he is a angry consumer, whilst you are a fanboy, and the reason why I support the sounding of the alarm. Your post was essentially a flame, and if you want to be taken seriously, you should type stuff other than "LOL 360 IS TEH SUX", which was all I managed to get from your response to him.

Now to your response to my post. You seem to have forgotten that logic is supreme, and logic dicates thus:

The quality of games to be released in the future cannot be given as an arguement, because these games have yet to be released. Unless you have psychic powers and can see the future, disdain from using future releases as an argument for the superiority of a system.

Also, you used GoW3 a few too many times.

Using MAG, inFAMOUS, and White Knight Chronicles was also a bad idea. These are UNPROVEN franchises, and could easily go the way of the dinosaur. And a freakin' karoake game? No matter how good it is, I doubt people will flock to the PS3 for what is essentially some singalong songs.


(Please note: I'm actually a huge fan of karaoke games. I'm just EXTREMELY sceptical that Joe gamer will flock to the black monolith for an exclusive one.)

As for DLC, the 360 has a big lead in terms of good games on Arcade, though I'll give you the fact that Sony has been doing a lot to close the gap.

GoW comes from a franchise thats extremly successful and not changing anything much so why would he not use it? White Knight Chronicles IS out so it's valid. And I posted a huge list of released, confirmed to come and possibilities.

Also Simrel is angry because his girlfriend and him had to break up. But then Indigo is a Fanboy, problem with that is it's not an insult, he wears it with pride.

Don't use cheap shots in a forum, it degrades everyone involved.

Since I haven't heard nary a whisper about WKC, I can't say much about its marketing...and then why did he put that in his future releases?
My post said he used GoW3 too many times, not that he use used it at all, btw.
If you cared to look, the 360 has loads of stuff coming too. I won't post it (due to being lazy) but if you cared to look you'll find plenty coming from MS as well as Sony.

Being a fanboy means you are being illogical. Hence the reason I despise all of them.

A cheap shot? that remark implies that I was correct in my statement, if so I'll stick to it.

I know you said future releases that was a grammatical mistake from myself.
And I know it has loads of stuff coming out, but how much of that is coming to the PC or the PS3 to? No seriously honest question here.

And WKC has been out in japan since Christmas, Indigo is talking about english release, I have a gameplay video on my Youtube account.

I can confirm that yes. This is why i am involved here. To blow of steam. But let me say this. Omni here is my mate. He likes the PS3. I enjoy gaming on the Xbox 360. We respect each others choices in console, and do NOT spend all our time on forums trying to change each others opinion. We get along. Can it really be that hard for the rest of you Ps3/Xbox fans?

 

[scotth266]

Dear God the Sony fanboys are out in force tonight.

You said something stupid, and you were called on it.

Say something relativly intelligent and stop insulting everyone else on the board

*sighs* Sony for some reason seem to be trying to sell their ridiculously priced console on the exclusive games. But lets face it are 3 good exclusives and a Blu Ray player most people wont use enough to justify shelling out that cash?
(the games i mean are Killzone 2, MGS4, and GOW3 none of which I'm interested in, but a lot of people like)

Well if thats the criteria, the Ps3 really stacks up well against the 360, which has no decent games and never will have any decent games in any form, and just sits there, getting broken and more useless.

Hey look. The fanboy alarm. Lets ring it. AWOOGA AWOOGA!

Duly rung. Now arm those torpedos!

Because one has a future, and one doesn't. Lets just look at this years upcoming releases of pure and untapped awesome for the Ps3. You have God Of War III, Gran Turismo 5, MAG, White Knight Chronicles, God of War III, Heavy Rain, God of War III, inFAMOUS, God Of War III, Singstar Queen (people keep omitting it, and I don't begrudge that - it is Singstar, after all - but its still built around the works of the best group for random singing ever, Queen. I cannot count the number of times a group of friends and I have burst into spontaneous Bohemian Rhapsody's), God Of War III, and a fair amount of damn cool downloadable games. If you look at the 360, you've got jack shit, unless Alan Wake suprises everyone. The Ps3 has far greater potential for awesome than the 360, and is showing it in spades.

*sighs* Sony for some reason seem to be trying to sell their ridiculously priced console on the exclusive games. But lets face it are 3 good exclusives and a Blu Ray player most people wont use enough to justify shelling out that cash?
(the games i mean are Killzone 2, MGS4, and GOW3 none of which I'm interested in, but a lot of people like)

Well if thats the criteria, the Ps3 really stacks up well against the 360, which has no decent games and never will have any decent games in any form, and just sits there, getting broken and more useless.

Hey look. The fanboy alarm. Lets ring it. AWOOGA AWOOGA!

So its okay, even praiseable when he does it, but not when I point out the logical implications of what he's saying? Can you say hypocrite?

Ok, your response to Simriel's thing had absolutely NO logic behind it. You DENIED that the 360 has any good games, while he allowed for the fact that the PS3 does. This is the reason why he is a angry consumer, whilst you are a fanboy, and the reason why I support the sounding of the alarm. Your post was essentially a flame, and if you want to be taken seriously, you should type stuff other than "LOL 360 IS TEH SUX", which was all I managed to get from your response to him.

Now to your response to my post. You seem to have forgotten that logic is supreme, and logic dicates thus:

The quality of games to be released in the future cannot be given as an arguement, because these games have yet to be released. Unless you have psychic powers and can see the future, disdain from using future releases as an argument for the superiority of a system.

Also, you used GoW3 a few too many times.

Using MAG, inFAMOUS, and White Knight Chronicles was also a bad idea. These are UNPROVEN franchises, and could easily go the way of the dinosaur. And a freakin' karoake game? No matter how good it is, I doubt people will flock to the PS3 for what is essentially some singalong songs.


(Please note: I'm actually a huge fan of karaoke games. I'm just EXTREMELY sceptical that Joe gamer will flock to the black monolith for an exclusive one.)

As for DLC, the 360 has a big lead in terms of good games on Arcade, though I'll give you the fact that Sony has been doing a lot to close the gap.

GoW comes from a franchise thats extremly successful and not changing anything much so why would he not use it? White Knight Chronicles IS out so it's valid. And I posted a huge list of released, confirmed to come and possibilities.

Also Simrel is angry because his girlfriend and him had to break up. But then Indigo is a Fanboy, problem with that is it's not an insult, he wears it with pride.

Don't use cheap shots in a forum, it degrades everyone involved.

Since I haven't heard nary a whisper about WKC, I can't say much about its marketing...and then why did he put that in his future releases?
My post said he used GoW3 too many times, not that he use used it at all, btw.
If you cared to look, the 360 has loads of stuff coming too. I won't post it (due to being lazy) but if you cared to look you'll find plenty coming from MS as well as Sony.

Being a fanboy means you are being illogical. Hence the reason I despise all of them.

A cheap shot? that remark implies that I was correct in my statement, if so I'll stick to it.

I know you said future releases that was a grammatical mistake from myself.
And I know it has loads of stuff coming out, but how much of that is coming to the PC or the PS3 to? No seriously honest question here.

And WKC has been out in japan since Christmas, Indigo is talking about english release, I have a gameplay video on my Youtube account.

I can confirm that yes. This is why i am involved here. To blow of steam. But let me say this. Omni here is my mate. He likes the PS3. I enjoy gaming on the Xbox 360. We respect each others choices in console, and do NOT spend all our time on forums trying to change each others opinion. We get along. Can it really be that hard for the rest of you Ps3/Xbox fans?

My apologies then, it seems I was operating under a misapprehesion.
And what you said here is what I want, a open discussion on things instead of a flame war. There are already far too many threads that have degenerated to that level.

 

[duchaked]

lol razor blades

actually, despite having a 360, I'd get a PS3 in the near future esp. with a price cut...

 

[FinalGamer]

And THIS is exactly why I will never buy a PS3. Since Sony are so blatantly saying "Either you give us $600 or you can go f--- yourselves. That goes double for you gaijin Europeans, seriously, fuck all of Europe, look at you with your stupid metal cutlery, you don't even know how to do money right so you store it in one tiny-ass neutral country up in the Alps because you're so stupid with money, well guess what?
YOU ONLY GET ONE MODEL.
THE CRAPPIER ONE WITH NO BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY AND SMALLER MEMORY.
FOR THE EXACT SAME PRICE AS THE GOOD ONE THE AMERICANS CAN HAVE.
F---.
YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU EUROPE."

F---. You. Sony. If I meet any of those executives, I am pimpslapping them European style.
Which is basically stabbing them.

In the face.

 

[Simriel]

Dear God the Sony fanboys are out in force tonight.

You said something stupid, and you were called on it.

Say something relativly intelligent and stop insulting everyone else on the board

*sighs* Sony for some reason seem to be trying to sell their ridiculously priced console on the exclusive games. But lets face it are 3 good exclusives and a Blu Ray player most people wont use enough to justify shelling out that cash?
(the games i mean are Killzone 2, MGS4, and GOW3 none of which I'm interested in, but a lot of people like)

Well if thats the criteria, the Ps3 really stacks up well against the 360, which has no decent games and never will have any decent games in any form, and just sits there, getting broken and more useless.

Hey look. The fanboy alarm. Lets ring it. AWOOGA AWOOGA!

Duly rung. Now arm those torpedos!

Because one has a future, and one doesn't. Lets just look at this years upcoming releases of pure and untapped awesome for the Ps3. You have God Of War III, Gran Turismo 5, MAG, White Knight Chronicles, God of War III, Heavy Rain, God of War III, inFAMOUS, God Of War III, Singstar Queen (people keep omitting it, and I don't begrudge that - it is Singstar, after all - but its still built around the works of the best group for random singing ever, Queen. I cannot count the number of times a group of friends and I have burst into spontaneous Bohemian Rhapsody's), God Of War III, and a fair amount of damn cool downloadable games. If you look at the 360, you've got jack shit, unless Alan Wake suprises everyone. The Ps3 has far greater potential for awesome than the 360, and is showing it in spades.

*sighs* Sony for some reason seem to be trying to sell their ridiculously priced console on the exclusive games. But lets face it are 3 good exclusives and a Blu Ray player most people wont use enough to justify shelling out that cash?
(the games i mean are Killzone 2, MGS4, and GOW3 none of which I'm interested in, but a lot of people like)

Well if thats the criteria, the Ps3 really stacks up well against the 360, which has no decent games and never will have any decent games in any form, and just sits there, getting broken and more useless.

Hey look. The fanboy alarm. Lets ring it. AWOOGA AWOOGA!

So its okay, even praiseable when he does it, but not when I point out the logical implications of what he's saying? Can you say hypocrite?

Ok, your response to Simriel's thing had absolutely NO logic behind it. You DENIED that the 360 has any good games, while he allowed for the fact that the PS3 does. This is the reason why he is a angry consumer, whilst you are a fanboy, and the reason why I support the sounding of the alarm. Your post was essentially a flame, and if you want to be taken seriously, you should type stuff other than "LOL 360 IS TEH SUX", which was all I managed to get from your response to him.

Now to your response to my post. You seem to have forgotten that logic is supreme, and logic dicates thus:

The quality of games to be released in the future cannot be given as an arguement, because these games have yet to be released. Unless you have psychic powers and can see the future, disdain from using future releases as an argument for the superiority of a system.

Also, you used GoW3 a few too many times.

Using MAG, inFAMOUS, and White Knight Chronicles was also a bad idea. These are UNPROVEN franchises, and could easily go the way of the dinosaur. And a freakin' karoake game? No matter how good it is, I doubt people will flock to the PS3 for what is essentially some singalong songs.


(Please note: I'm actually a huge fan of karaoke games. I'm just EXTREMELY sceptical that Joe gamer will flock to the black monolith for an exclusive one.)

As for DLC, the 360 has a big lead in terms of good games on Arcade, though I'll give you the fact that Sony has been doing a lot to close the gap.

GoW comes from a franchise thats extremly successful and not changing anything much so why would he not use it? White Knight Chronicles IS out so it's valid. And I posted a huge list of released, confirmed to come and possibilities.

Also Simrel is angry because his girlfriend and him had to break up. But then Indigo is a Fanboy, problem with that is it's not an insult, he wears it with pride.

Don't use cheap shots in a forum, it degrades everyone involved.

Since I haven't heard nary a whisper about WKC, I can't say much about its marketing...and then why did he put that in his future releases?
My post said he used GoW3 too many times, not that he use used it at all, btw.
If you cared to look, the 360 has loads of stuff coming too. I won't post it (due to being lazy) but if you cared to look you'll find plenty coming from MS as well as Sony.

Being a fanboy means you are being illogical. Hence the reason I despise all of them.

A cheap shot? that remark implies that I was correct in my statement, if so I'll stick to it.

I know you said future releases that was a grammatical mistake from myself.
And I know it has loads of stuff coming out, but how much of that is coming to the PC or the PS3 to? No seriously honest question here.

And WKC has been out in japan since Christmas, Indigo is talking about english release, I have a gameplay video on my Youtube account.

I can confirm that yes. This is why i am involved here. To blow of steam. But let me say this. Omni here is my mate. He likes the PS3. I enjoy gaming on the Xbox 360. We respect each others choices in console, and do NOT spend all our time on forums trying to change each others opinion. We get along. Can it really be that hard for the rest of you Ps3/Xbox fans?

My apologies then, it seems I was operating under a misapprehesion.
And what you said here is what I want, a open discussion on things instead of a flame war. There are already far too many threads that have degenerated to that level.

Its okay. His information was accurate. ALso the discussions involving either PS3 or 360 devolve into flame wars because of indigo and his ilk. The ones who CANNOT accept any flaw in their produce because otherwise they will feel bad about themselves for owning it.

 

[jthm]

"If you had priced your console reasonably then I probably would own a PS3 rather than a 360 right now."

The price is reasonable, that Sony still takes a loss and sells it is reasonable.

"I'm not interested in the Blu-ray at this time and am just not willing to fork over the extra money."

As a PS3 owner with a HDTV, I could care less about Blu ray, I didn't buy it for Blu ray. I bought it because it had a built in wireless, hard drive, rechargable controllers, a low failure rate, and free online content. I don't have to pay $50 a year to play Warhawk (which is roughly the PS3 equivalanet to Halo 3). Blu ray is more of a bonus, not a major selling point.

The cheapest Xbox is $199. Once you add in a HD ($70-$150), a wireless network adapter ($50), pay for Xbox live ($50/year), hybrid rayovack NiMH Alkaline batteries ($10) you are already up to $380. A whopping $19 difference from the cheapest PS3. Then if you purchase Xbox live for another year, you are over the price of the PS3.

Then there's the fact that I don't have to screw with rechargable batteries for the PS3. I also don't have to worry about my discs being scratched and ruining my games, and I don't have to worry about my PS3 dying and having to send it back to be repaired.

So I just don't understand the cost argument against the PS3, since I would have to pay more to get the same features with the Xbox 360. So maybe there's something I'm missing, but features like having to buy a hard drive, paying for xbox live, having to buy a wireless network adapter, and failure rates were things that I thought about when buying a PS3 or Xbox 360. The PS3 seems like a better deal to me. At the time I also thought Play TV was coming to the U.S., it's a shame that it didn't.

Edit:spelling

Okay, stop. Just stop. That argument about the comparative pricing is tired and flawed. I own all three systems, and while the PS3 is the best hardware wise, my 360 beats it on pretty much all other fronts. I pay for live because live is a MUCH MUCH MUCH more user friendly interface than the PSN. Hands down, no contest. I'll pay for that convenience.

Now, let's look over your math here. HD upgrade? Don't need it, don't want it, dying disc format anyway. Since it isn't bundled with the system and it isn't necessary to run it, it doesn't count. Sorry, but it's true.
Wireless network adapter? I'll give you that one, as I use a cheap one for my own wireless network. But it is worth pointing out that the ethernet port on the back works just as well. So we're up to ($50) assuming we're going with a good quality adapter.
Xbox live? Okay, I'll grant that one too since I bought it. My brother gets by with splitscreen co-op and system link lans just fine, but whatever. So we're up to ($100) dollars.
What area are you from that $10 is a reasonable price for 2 AA batteries? No sir, let's cut that down to about ($3). Once again though that isn't necessary. I get by just fine on my wired controllers. The wire is so long I've never run out of room with it. I come from a day when a game controller had wires, so I have no problem with this. So let's drop that too.

A more realistic price for a 360 compared to a cheap PS3 is 199.99 + 103.00 = $302.99 Vs. a $400 cheap PS3. But honestly it sounds like you're the sort who is talking bells and whistles and let's face it, most of us want to play our old PS1 and 2 library. So what we're talking here is roughly $300 vs. $500.00

Also, you don't have to buy a HDD. My 20G that came with the system works just fine. It isn't a PC, I don't need music on it.

 

[Simriel]

Dear God the Sony fanboys are out in force tonight.

You said something stupid, and you were called on it.

Say something relativly intelligent and stop insulting everyone else on the board

*sighs* Sony for some reason seem to be trying to sell their ridiculously priced console on the exclusive games. But lets face it are 3 good exclusives and a Blu Ray player most people wont use enough to justify shelling out that cash?
(the games i mean are Killzone 2, MGS4, and GOW3 none of which I'm interested in, but a lot of people like)

Well if thats the criteria, the Ps3 really stacks up well against the 360, which has no decent games and never will have any decent games in any form, and just sits there, getting broken and more useless.

Hey look. The fanboy alarm. Lets ring it. AWOOGA AWOOGA!

Duly rung. Now arm those torpedos!

Because one has a future, and one doesn't. Lets just look at this years upcoming releases of pure and untapped awesome for the Ps3. You have God Of War III, Gran Turismo 5, MAG, White Knight Chronicles, God of War III, Heavy Rain, God of War III, inFAMOUS, God Of War III, Singstar Queen (people keep omitting it, and I don't begrudge that - it is Singstar, after all - but its still built around the works of the best group for random singing ever, Queen. I cannot count the number of times a group of friends and I have burst into spontaneous Bohemian Rhapsody's), God Of War III, and a fair amount of damn cool downloadable games. If you look at the 360, you've got jack shit, unless Alan Wake suprises everyone. The Ps3 has far greater potential for awesome than the 360, and is showing it in spades.

*sighs* Sony for some reason seem to be trying to sell their ridiculously priced console on the exclusive games. But lets face it are 3 good exclusives and a Blu Ray player most people wont use enough to justify shelling out that cash?
(the games i mean are Killzone 2, MGS4, and GOW3 none of which I'm interested in, but a lot of people like)

Well if thats the criteria, the Ps3 really stacks up well against the 360, which has no decent games and never will have any decent games in any form, and just sits there, getting broken and more useless.

Hey look. The fanboy alarm. Lets ring it. AWOOGA AWOOGA!

So its okay, even praiseable when he does it, but not when I point out the logical implications of what he's saying? Can you say hypocrite?

Ok, your response to Simriel's thing had absolutely NO logic behind it. You DENIED that the 360 has any good games, while he allowed for the fact that the PS3 does. This is the reason why he is a angry consumer, whilst you are a fanboy, and the reason why I support the sounding of the alarm. Your post was essentially a flame, and if you want to be taken seriously, you should type stuff other than "LOL 360 IS TEH SUX", which was all I managed to get from your response to him.

Now to your response to my post. You seem to have forgotten that logic is supreme, and logic dicates thus:

The quality of games to be released in the future cannot be given as an arguement, because these games have yet to be released. Unless you have psychic powers and can see the future, disdain from using future releases as an argument for the superiority of a system.

Also, you used GoW3 a few too many times.

Using MAG, inFAMOUS, and White Knight Chronicles was also a bad idea. These are UNPROVEN franchises, and could easily go the way of the dinosaur. And a freakin' karoake game? No matter how good it is, I doubt people will flock to the PS3 for what is essentially some singalong songs.


(Please note: I'm actually a huge fan of karaoke games. I'm just EXTREMELY sceptical that Joe gamer will flock to the black monolith for an exclusive one.)

As for DLC, the 360 has a big lead in terms of good games on Arcade, though I'll give you the fact that Sony has been doing a lot to close the gap.

GoW comes from a franchise thats extremly successful and not changing anything much so why would he not use it? White Knight Chronicles IS out so it's valid. And I posted a huge list of released, confirmed to come and possibilities.

Also Simrel is angry because his girlfriend and him had to break up. But then Indigo is a Fanboy, problem with that is it's not an insult, he wears it with pride.

Don't use cheap shots in a forum, it degrades everyone involved.

Since I haven't heard nary a whisper about WKC, I can't say much about its marketing...and then why did he put that in his future releases?
My post said he used GoW3 too many times, not that he use used it at all, btw.
If you cared to look, the 360 has loads of stuff coming too. I won't post it (due to being lazy) but if you cared to look you'll find plenty coming from MS as well as Sony.

Being a fanboy means you are being illogical. Hence the reason I despise all of them.

A cheap shot? that remark implies that I was correct in my statement, if so I'll stick to it.

I know you said future releases that was a grammatical mistake from myself.
And I know it has loads of stuff coming out, but how much of that is coming to the PC or the PS3 to? No seriously honest question here.

And WKC has been out in japan since Christmas, Indigo is talking about english release, I have a gameplay video on my Youtube account.

I can confirm that yes. This is why i am involved here. To blow of steam. But let me say this. Omni here is my mate. He likes the PS3. I enjoy gaming on the Xbox 360. We respect each others choices in console, and do NOT spend all our time on forums trying to change each others opinion. We get along. Can it really be that hard for the rest of you Ps3/Xbox fans?

My apologies then, it seems I was operating under a misapprehesion.
And what you said here is what I want, a open discussion on things instead of a flame war. There are already far too many threads that have degenerated to that level.

Yeah sorry if this came of as me flaming, me and Sim are just SICK of people acting like one console is superior. I don't even act like my PS3 is superior (though my dialogue may look that way, it's because it's the console in need of the most defending)

i confirm this.

 

[oliveira8]

And THIS is exactly why I will never buy a PS3.

Fuck. You. Sony. If I meet any of those executives, I am pimpslapping them European style.

After Sony statments of making the PS3 harder to develop on purpose so they wont have bad games and say they wont cut the PS3 price, I came to the conclusion that the owner of Sony is no other than...

Spoiler

Yup Uncle Scrooge! ^^

 

[scotth266]

Yeah sorry if this came of as me flaming, me and Sim are just SICK of people acting like one console is superior. I don't even act like my PS3 is superior (though my dialogue may look that way, it's because it's the console in need of the most defending)

Its okay. His information was accurate. ALso the discussions involving either PS3 or 360 devolve into flame wars because of indigo and his ilk. The ones who CANNOT accept any flaw in their produce because otherwise they will feel bad about themselves for owning it.

Well then, I'm happy that we all agree. Honestly, I started out as a PS2 fanboy, but I realized that each console has it's own benefits. This silly flaming really needs to stop.
However, I totally support well-reasoned arguments. That's why Indigo draws my ire, while I only banter with you two. I may be a little witty at times, but I acknowledge you for being reasonable folks.

Oh and it strikes me that I never shared my thoughts on the razor blades. I'd make an emo joke, but that would be tasteless of me, so instead I'll get to the point:
The man who said that probably just has a quickly growing beard, and hence wastes money on lotsa blades. Doesn't need to be complicated or anything.

 

[Woe Is You]

Metal Gear Solid 4, Killzone 2 and God Of War III are better than anything on the 360.

God of War III isn't released yet, Killzone 2 loses to Gears of War in reviews (in other words, it's subjective) and all you can really say about MGS4 is that it's the sort of game that the 360 doesn't have.

No, it does not. There are more great PsN games than XBL games.

Again, subjective. If you look at the games I've played the most on the 360, Ikaruga ranks way up there with Virtua Fighter 5, Third Strike and Chromehounds (that is, hundreds and hundreds of hours played).

Anyhow, why advertise companies so vehementily if you aren't getting any money from them?

 

[Jumplion]

God of War III isn't released yet, Killzone 2 loses to Gears of War in reviews (in other words, it's subjective) and all you can really say about MGS4 is that it's the sort of game that the 360 doesn't have.

Why is everyone comparing Killzone 2 to Gears of War 2? They're nothing alike. The only similarities they have is that it has a cover mechanic, that's it.

 

[Woe Is You]

Why is everyone comparing Killzone 2 to Gears of War 2? They're nothing alike. The only similarities they have is that it has a cover mechanic, that's it.

They are both shooters relying on cover. The biggest difference is the camera position, really.

 

[HyenaThePirate]

I hate to point this out...

But 'future' releases for ANY system are in no way an indication of the success of a console, let alone the very title to be released ITSELF.

Remember Lair? Highly anticipated 'future' release.. now an embarrassing flop
Remember Haze? Highly anticipated 'future' release.. WITH awesome coop. Flop.
Remember Folklore? Highly anticipated 'future' release. IMO an OUTSTANDING title. unfortunately a bit of a flop.
Remember Warhawk? Highly anticipated 'future' release. Did anyone actually play it, because I sure didnt..
Socom: Highly anticipated flop... only sold for the awesome bluetooth headset.

There there are the 'sold alot but disappointed everyone' titles, like Resident Evil 5 (which I bought and still am not too happy with. Has nothing to do with the console it's on, I just dont think the GAME lived up to the hype)... Lost Planet had MOMENTS, but ultimately not as good as hoped.. Disgaea 3 was an UPDATED revamp of the damn original, Heavenly Sword and MGS4 were big sellers and i'm still sort of miffed at both for teasing me with frustratingly short amounts of gameplay for the price I paid for them.

The point is, regardless of the console, claiming a title is going to mean the difference between consoles leaving stores in droves or collecting dust is risky business because I think ALL of us can honestly admit to being burned by a title we were salivating for months for only to be disappointed to the point of emotional suffering at it's poor implementation (Star Wars Unleashed anyone? total heartbreaker IMO)

The fact remains that the Playstation is going no where. Their sales are not so bad and their losses are not so dire that they are suddenly going to announce at E3 that they are dropping the playstation 3 line. People can get that out of their heads. Nor is the Xbox suddenly going to find itself a useless system without any decent titles... Microsoft has more than enough money and development studios under it's umbrella to keep decent titles flowing and with the install base they have already, they are most assuredly going to lure developers, even Indie companies, who seem to be far more embraced by Microsoft at this moment than Sony, which is what I think will REALLY be the biggest deciding factor in this generation's console wars.

Indie games push the market forward and create the IP's of tomorrow. Without them, all you have is a never-ending parade of tired sequels from older IPs that eventually wear out their welcome. Honestly i'll be less enthusiastic about Halo 7 than I was with Halo 2 and 3 and Resistance 5 would be something i'd completely pass on.
Look to the Tim Schafers of tomorrow with their Brutal Legends and the Media Molecules for the real driving factor. Need proof? Little Big Planet did more for Sony than even MGS4 in my opinion. It breathed new interest and life into the system.

But that is only my opinion, and I am in no way a psychic.

 

[FinalGamer]

And THIS is exactly why I will never buy a PS3.

Fuck. You. Sony. If I meet any of those executives, I am pimpslapping them European style.

After Sony statments of making the PS3 harder to develop on purpose so they wont have bad games and say they wont cut the PS3 price, I came to the conclusion that the owner of Sony is no other than...

Spoiler

Yup Uncle Scrooge! ^^

......SLANDER!
GOOD SIR THAT IS SLANDER TO ASSOCIATE SCROOGE TO SONY!
PISTOLS AT DAWN! GMT!

 

[scotth266]

No no no no, no no no, no. It doesn't work like that, that just because a console exists it must somehow have the same amount of quality to it. Metal Gear Solid 4, Killzone 2 and God Of War III are better than anything on the 360. Full stop. End of story. If you are saying these games are merely average, that cuts off anything below their level of quality as bad - which means the entirety of the 360's library. Saying the Ps3 "only has three good games" means the 360 has no good games. That is the full scope of it.

You're also disregarding anything that can be used to give an estimated guess - developer pedigree, in game videos, demonstrations, technology descriptions, previews from trusted sources (Like Susan, and independent sources who stake their career on it).... you're basically saying there is no such thing as educated guessing and pattern recognition, and since that is the case I've got this lovely prime real estate to offer you. Sure, the value is going to plummet, but you don't know that - you only know that its worth something now.

My use of God Of War III is representative of the greatness of the game.

What the hell are you talking about? They're new IPs that use awesome concepts, they are not going to die off. And its fucking Queen, man.

No, it does not. There are more great PsN games than XBL games.

*Sigh*
It seems to be pointless to discuss things with you Dingo: your refusal to admit that ANYTHING made on the 360 is good makes any argument you throw at me instantly invalid.

The games you list: Killzone 2, MGS4, GoW3. The only game I see as being the PS3's killer app would be the last and first. While MGS4 was undoubtably awesome, how can you say it is undoubtably better than Gears of War 2, or No More Heroes? The games are so different in what their subject matter/control schemes are that dismissing one or the other out of hand is a foolish, no, amazingly stupid act. The same goes for Killzone 2 against Halo 3 and House of the Dead: Overkill. How can you say any of them is better? Sure, PS3 games are prettier. But that's the only thing you've got going for you.

As for Queen: Don't care. Not my style of stuff.

And for the downloadable games: you need to remove your head from your buttocks region. It impairs your vision. Otherwise you would see the masterpieces that XBLA and the Wii's service have: Castle Crashers and Geometry Wars, to name a few of the 360's heavyweights, and most of the classic Nintendo library for the Wii. These offerings are certainly more than enough to compete with PSN's.

 

[SomeUnregPunk]

And THIS is exactly why I will never buy a PS3.
EDIT:cursed a lot.EDIT

Please don't curse! Or you'll be banned for awhile and it makes you look like an idiot for not being able to get your point across without cursing.

All the consoles have lots of games. PS3 is pretty and the Sony really doesn't need to make a PS4 for a good long time because of it. Xbox360 isn't as pretty as PS3 which is why they are proabbly working on the next one. Wii doesn't need pretty graphics to be great. i know this guy who is in his late forties now. He played the Wii with his nephew and now he is going to buy the system for himself. He is big fan of baseball and soccer games{real games-going out with friends in reality with baseball, gloves, bats, etc} and finding a system that gives the capability to feel like your really playing baseball made him for the first time want to play video games as an adult.

Wii with it's nifty controller is a great system. I'm glad this news report tells us that Wii is still doing awesome. PS3 has a lot of games that interest me and the Xbox has a lot of games that interest me with some backwards compatibility on both. The only thing I want from PS3 is a an emulator patch for ps2 games.