Spawn Camping Marathon Gets Black Ops Players Banned

[JordanMillward_1]

Wow, Treyarch. Just wow.
This isn't the players' fault. It's yours. YOU made the broken-ass system, now YOU need to fix it or else the entire multiplayer community will soon look just like these guys.

Boosting, however, is the players' fault. They weren't banned for spawn camping, they were banned because all the players involved were in cahoots to boost the scores of the team with the high numbers of kills.

Seriously, how many people here are too stupid to actually read the article and realise that this wasn't a ban for exploiting the broken system, but for boosting, which has long been a punishable offence in competitive online games?

I thought the Escapist community was better than that.

 

[chuckman1]

It's TREYARCHS fault this happened they shouldn't ban somebody for playing how they are ENCOURAGED TO PLAY.

 

[Wiryjackal]

Anyone need more proof that CoD Black Ops is not a well made game. Campaign was Ok, Zombies is Awesome And multi player is just ridiculous. And the CoD points system just put more pressure to do well(camp) because you have to otherwise you don't get enough points and then you can't buy any new guns or equipment. At least with EXP ruling everything you eventually got new weapons.

Oh and why is it that I get top 3 almost every match on CoD 4, World at War, and Modern Warfare 2 but the minute I try Black Ops, I get bottom of my team? (This really doesn't have anything to do with the article, I'm just wondering if anyone had some ideas.)

 

[Razgrizaces]

It's TREYARCHS fault this happened they shouldn't ban somebody for playing how they are ENCOURAGED TO PLAY.

That's why they were banned for playing a "normal game?"

Could you please look at the posts above you, and watch the actual Youtube video where they show the opposite side of the story?

 

[Requx]

I love how the alternitave to fixing your game is banning.

 

[jawakiller]

The core mechanics of CoD online are so broken, I just find this funny.

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I have to agree with that. There is very little teamwork or collaborating which is frustrating in a "team" based mission. Not only that, (ok, almost) every player has this lone wolf attitude which makes any squad tactics impossible. I know I sound like I'm just trolling but I'm serious. Which is why I prefer css over cod. More situations calling for multiple person tactics and better teamwork. They actually have strategies. Sorry if I offended any fanboys.

 

[Rensenhito]

Wow, Treyarch. Just wow.
This isn't the players' fault. It's yours. YOU made the broken-ass system, now YOU need to fix it or else the entire multiplayer community will soon look just like these guys.

Boosting, however, is the players' fault. They weren't banned for spawn camping, they were banned because all the players involved were in cahoots to boost the scores of the team with the high numbers of kills.

Seriously, how many people here are too stupid to actually read the article and realise that this wasn't a ban for exploiting the broken system, but for boosting, which has long been a punishable offence in competitive online games?

I thought the Escapist community was better than that.

Ow, my feelings.
I'm just saying that if the system is this way to begin with and it's this easy to exploit the flaws, something's inherently wrong.
That's all.

 

[Redratson]

Hey, way to punish players for exposing the flaws in your game, Treyarch.

Maybe the people getting beat were in league with the spawn campers, or maybe they're like me and refuse to quit no matter how badly they're getting beat.

Pretty much this. I have never understood why people can get in trouble for exploiting flaws in games and this goes for anything from Call of Duty to World of Warcraft. I'm sorry, but if the person in question isn't actively hacking the game and is just taking advantage of weaknesses in your programming that's your problem no matter how many players get adversely affected. I've never been guilty of this kind of behavior before, however I can't fathom why players can get punished for simply playing the game the way they want to.

both of these, and to treyarch saying that the opposing team was in on it, they are stupid from wat little experience i have had with the cod games people care about are K/D ratio to prove how bad ass they are.

 

[Razgrizaces]

Wow, Treyarch. Just wow.
This isn't the players' fault. It's yours. YOU made the broken-ass system, now YOU need to fix it or else the entire multiplayer community will soon look just like these guys.

Boosting, however, is the players' fault. They weren't banned for spawn camping, they were banned because all the players involved were in cahoots to boost the scores of the team with the high numbers of kills.

Seriously, how many people here are too stupid to actually read the article and realise that this wasn't a ban for exploiting the broken system, but for boosting, which has long been a punishable offence in competitive online games?

I thought the Escapist community was better than that.

Ow, my feelings.
I'm just saying that if the system is this way to begin with and it's this easy to exploit the flaws, something's inherently wrong.
That's all.

Wow, I'm not getting any attention at all. They were boosting, a form of a cheat where one side does absolutely nothing for the other person to kill them over and over again. Please refer to my videos. If they were seriously just spawn camping, I highly doubt somebody would even come CLOSE to 500 kills.

Hey, way to punish players for exposing the flaws in your game, Treyarch.

Maybe the people getting beat were in league with the spawn campers, or maybe they're like me and refuse to quit no matter how badly they're getting beat.

Pretty much this. I have never understood why people can get in trouble for exploiting flaws in games and this goes for anything from Call of Duty to World of Warcraft. I'm sorry, but if the person in question isn't actively hacking the game and is just taking advantage of weaknesses in your programming that's your problem no matter how many players get adversely affected. I've never been guilty of this kind of behavior before, however I can't fathom why players can get punished for simply playing the game the way they want to.

both of these, and to treyarch saying that the opposing team was in on it, they are stupid from wat little experience i have had with the cod games people care about are K/D ratio to prove how bad ass they are.

First of all, the opposing team was in on it. They were in fact boosting. You only saw the video proving they were playing fairly. You didn't see the opposite side on it.

I will post this for people to see again.


Skip to about 5:00.


Wow. Look at the opposite side, and tell me they weren't just sitting around and getting killed over and over again. Sure, they killed the guy eight times, and some other people a few times. That doesn't make up for the fact that the opposing team just sat there and took a beating, they were obviously involved in it...

 

[thisbymaster]

Quit these worthless shooters and play team fortress 2 instead.

 

[TheTaco007]

Hey, way to punish players for exposing the flaws in your game, Treyarch.

Seriously. Although, if the people on the other team were in on it, then it's OK to ban them, but you can't ban people for exploiting something YOU put in the game...

 

[Obrien Xp]

This is why I stopped playing CoD a long time ago (at least the multiplayer). Sure, I'll still go on once in a while but, for the most part I'm either on Campaign or playing Battlefield. (which isn't perfect either, but it doesn't feel as redundant to me)

*note: I don't normally play FPS's unless I'm hanging out at a friends house and they have a co-op mode for either multi or singleplayer.

Then again, if my friend had his copy of The Orange Box back from the guy he lent it to 8 months ago...Spy Check!

 

[Dfskelleton]

Wait, so people found non cheating ways to win at your game due to your own incompetence and you ban them?

 

[brazuca]

I don't really like COD multiplayer anymore. MW2 was the pivot for me. Now they should not be banned. Would you remove my driver licence if I discovered a problem with my car's engine and then exploited it to run faster and avoid red lights, not taking red lights tickets?! The game has a flaw, big deal! People have been doing this ever since! And do not come with battlefield does not have it, 'cos it does, it's the only multiplayer I'm playing now and has it's exploits.


Note: COD is to this generation, what CS was to previous one. As soon as people realize that the sooner we will move on.

 

[Dogstile]

Good job. You give someone a car that can go 900 Mph, then you give them a speeding ticket, nice fuckin' job.

...You do realise this usually happens in real life right? And people do get banned from driving because of it too.

 

[JohnnyDelRay]

why do so many people pretend like CoD is the first game with any flaws? Since any game has been played online there has been some kind of problem or other, camping, spawnkilling, it's been done since Battlefields, Quakes, CS's, Tribes, I know I'd like to have banned a lot of people for playing like dicks back in the day, but usually they just got kicked/banned from servers and that was it.

Since when does unsportsman-like playing become the fault of the developer? Sounds like everyone is just making reasons to attack Treyarch (not that they are my favourite dev, nor is CoD my fav franchise) but if this was any other game nobody would say shit!

Retarded players got what was coming to them IMHO, in a single player or LAN setting would be different, but online?

 

[chopperman]

Wow so instead of fixing the spawn camping problem you just temp ban and reset rank? uh.. if they do that again wont they get back to there old rank in no time? ... treyarch is so fucking stupid

 

[Mcface]

So you ban people for using your game against you?
thats bullshit. fix the game.

srry for double post got captcha error the first time then lag then i had 2 posts.

np.

i watched the video.
If a game can be exploited, it's the games fault, not the people who take advantage of it.

 

[wizard_joe88]

Well, way to go guys, you managed to get up your imaginary rank in a video game, AND you managed to take the fun out of it, for BOTH teams, seriously, that is the most stupid thing I've ever seen, spawn camping just takes the fun out of the game? Did you do that so you can brag about a KDR? That doesn't matter, what matters is if you actually have FUN playing, and fun certainly isn't playing a video game so you can show off your score to other people.
God.... People sure do miss the point of entertainment sometimes.

 

[Tdc2182]

I like how they just punish those that are just abusing flaws the developers left in rather than making a patch which would take 30 mins tops (i'm being generous) to just vary the spawn points.

The ban is slightly unfair as they state themselves that they think the other team was in collaboration therefore they were not griefing the other team. A simple rollback of a few ranks of the exp they earned using the flaw would have been enough.

And the fact that they were in all reality boosting.

They were uncovered. The guy who planted A bomb during the game was pointing his gun up in the air and shooting, along with three of the other players not moving at all.