Spike Reveals Gameplay Video of BioWare's Next Game
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Yeah, whatever. Glad I made your day. Good day, sir.OutrageousEmu said:Thank you for admitting that I understood you completely with that double negative.Beautiful End said:And...you've failed to completely misunderstand what I was trying to say. For the second time. *Facepalm*OutrageousEmu said:Well when the US invade Disneyland I'm sure they'll get right on that. As it stands all wars still involve broken wartorn stretches. Usuly because war makes places into broken wartorn stretches. And they can't just make up a war and "make it fun", because thats incredibly insensitive to soldiers in present wars.Beautiful End said:I would still classify those into the whole grim-war/event-that-devastate-a-location/race-and-now-everything-is-serious-business.OutrageousEmu said:You are aware you described HAZE, right?Beautiful End said:Whoa, hold on, hold on. You might be on to something right there. What if there was a military FPS shooter that was super colorful and bright and happy? Shooting itself doesn't have to be related to war or something depressing. Something like...a Ratchet and Clank game, only FPS at all times? Yeah, something original, with a witty sense of humor and colorful? Or a game about a guy always on shrooms who sees everything in a colorful way...darkmushroomm said:I love how people say that they use the same colours in every game, they can't exactly change the colour of real life things can they? What other colours do you propose they use?Kitsuna10060 said:YAY!!!! another grey military gamei haven't seen one of those in DAYS
Think about it. Even if it's a flop, it WOULD be an original game. I would play that even if its just to see if it sucks or not.
...Not only that, but the world itself isn't just a huge grey palette. I wonder if there would be a way to incorporate new elements, colors and environments to this imaginary game. I'm sure there would be.
And before that you described Halo.
Kudos to both games for using something other than grey. But I meant I would like to see a military game, as in pseudo contemporary military (Kinda like CoD, although that also falls into the fantasy realm at times, but you get it: Some game where they don't use laser cannons and stuff), that manages to use bright colors. Somehow. I didn't meant EXACTLY something like Halo or Ratchet and Clank. I just meant something colorful and fun that can still be classified as a military, contemporary FPS.
War is serious business - you'd have to be a complete sociopath to distance yourself from that. You can't have a "funny" war game, it'd be about as sensitive and tasteful as a musical comedy about the Stalinist purges. And if there is one fucking thing videogames do not fucking need, its something so incredibly tasteless and vile that it would damage our reputation even further.
So, congrats. Your idea would forever stop videogames being recognised as an art form.
Whatever. I'm not repeating myself. *Jumps to some other thread*
You were saying they make a colourful, funny modern military FPS. Any way you slice that it is going to be incredibly insensitive and tasteless and degrade gaing as a whole. Thats cause they already made it - thats the Blackwater game.
You, sir or ma'am, have won the internet. Your commentary is as equally hilarious as it is accurate. *Tips hat*rayen020 said:
Incidentally, I was mildly interested in SWTOR and I was considering reserving the Special editon (Back when it was available). But after that comment, I'm just...not gonna play it at all. I'll just sit here and wait for Dragon age 3. It will happen. Someday.
Someday...
Bioware + Mercenaries? What's next? Bethesda + Metal Arms? Rockstar + Darkwatch?
Great, big companies plus games I like: Christmas comes early every time.
Great, big companies plus games I like: Christmas comes early every time.
From the viewpoint it doesn't seem like a mercs game. You have two allied tanks firing on a couple trucks. The tanks don't look like any modern tank. Maybe they're making some kind of strategy game. I'd love to see a tactical rpg from Bioware, but to be fair I'd like to see a tactical rpg from just about anybody.
And that mercs inc footage did not look like the footage shown here. Vehicles and ordnance were about the only similarities.
And that mercs inc footage did not look like the footage shown here. Vehicles and ordnance were about the only similarities.
I'm not sure if it's my 6am apathy kicking in or what, but i really can't see why they would even bother putting this out if they wanted to create any kind of interest.
It works as a joke, sure, but with this little of the game displayed and only a picture out beside this people are going to think someone's just cloning out another shooter.
Personally i'm one of those heretics who don't own any BioWare games so i'm not going to jump to any conclusion. I'll just say it would be nice if the new branch didn't soil the company's name by making a shitty gritty game right off the bat.
It works as a joke, sure, but with this little of the game displayed and only a picture out beside this people are going to think someone's just cloning out another shooter.
Personally i'm one of those heretics who don't own any BioWare games so i'm not going to jump to any conclusion. I'll just say it would be nice if the new branch didn't soil the company's name by making a shitty gritty game right off the bat.
Ugh...The Spike VGA's are coming up again? Can't wait for them to give MW3 game of the year. Maybe they'll even get the cast of Jersey Shore to present it.
We don't even know what it is yet. This is bioware, do you really think their going to make a generic military shooter?
Great things about the Mercenaries series.
-Large open world.
-Fast paced third person shooter.
-Vehicles! Drive/fly everything!
-Not terribly realistic (the first game felt like as Indiana Jones level of realism).
-Lots and lots of terrain destruction.
Things that Bioware traditionally does great.
-Engrossing narrative.
-Memorable characters.
-Enjoyable and well balanced RPG game mechanics.
-Polished finished product.
Take the best of what the series did, with what Bioware is known for, and it could be a great game. A fast over the top third person shooter. In my opinion, 'Just Cause 2' was a better Mercenaries game than the second Mercenaries game was. Now add in RPG elements and character progression (this does work, look at 'Crackdown'), and some gear upgrading/customization. Keep the airstrikes, but find a way to balance them out. Either make them insane (to recapture the first game's 'shock and awe' appeal) and limit/restrict their use. Or tone them down, but make them far more usable and less powerful (I prefer the former).
Let you create a character (a la 'Saint's Row') and give them an interesting single player campaign. But open up the whole game and story to Co-Op play, and come up with a better system than Merc's 2 that had you tethered to your partner. Put in plenty of interesting supporting characters (including AI controlled NPC partners to help out in lieu of Co-Op), your own base/network to upgrade with matching effect on gameplay (think AC Brotherhood). A number of competing faction would be a plus, each with their own set of iconic equipment and hardware. Take out QTE's for vehicle hijacks, come up with something better.
Now drop me into the middle of this world, and let me have some fun. And maybe, if I'm feeling like it, I just might save the world. You know, when I get around to it. Sorta like Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim...
-Large open world.
-Fast paced third person shooter.
-Vehicles! Drive/fly everything!
-Not terribly realistic (the first game felt like as Indiana Jones level of realism).
-Lots and lots of terrain destruction.
Things that Bioware traditionally does great.
-Engrossing narrative.
-Memorable characters.
-Enjoyable and well balanced RPG game mechanics.
-Polished finished product.
Take the best of what the series did, with what Bioware is known for, and it could be a great game. A fast over the top third person shooter. In my opinion, 'Just Cause 2' was a better Mercenaries game than the second Mercenaries game was. Now add in RPG elements and character progression (this does work, look at 'Crackdown'), and some gear upgrading/customization. Keep the airstrikes, but find a way to balance them out. Either make them insane (to recapture the first game's 'shock and awe' appeal) and limit/restrict their use. Or tone them down, but make them far more usable and less powerful (I prefer the former).
Let you create a character (a la 'Saint's Row') and give them an interesting single player campaign. But open up the whole game and story to Co-Op play, and come up with a better system than Merc's 2 that had you tethered to your partner. Put in plenty of interesting supporting characters (including AI controlled NPC partners to help out in lieu of Co-Op), your own base/network to upgrade with matching effect on gameplay (think AC Brotherhood). A number of competing faction would be a plus, each with their own set of iconic equipment and hardware. Take out QTE's for vehicle hijacks, come up with something better.
Now drop me into the middle of this world, and let me have some fun. And maybe, if I'm feeling like it, I just might save the world. You know, when I get around to it. Sorta like Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim...
I wish they'd just ditch the perfunctory combat in their games and go for an almost purely dialogue/character orientated, quirky mission game, like Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines. Have that instead of the repetitive, pointless and poorly put together action, like in Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines
CardinalPiggles said:
Racecarlock said:
Kitsuna10060 said:YAY!!!! another grey military game
OK, I'm taking all of you hatemongers together in one big happy bunch of sunshine and I'll address you together. First of all, yeah, yeah, you were all very creative and funny with your criticisms (needs a little work, Raddra), but you have to have admit that so far we only have all of three seconds to go by.Raddra said:
Granted, if those three seconds had been spent looking down the sights of a gun in FPS-mode, I would have cringed as well, but as it stands this game could be an RTS for all we know.
Props to Beryl here though for having the correct attitude towards what we've seen of the game so far.
Beryl77 said:
Maybe, but then maybe that meagre amount of footage was intended to generate some buzz before the VGAs. I mean, regardless of whether we're being positive about it right now or not, we are talking about it and that news will spread. It might just be the lack of information to go by that will intrigue people, rather than entice, and spread the word in that fashion.Rocklobster99 said:
They do realize that the whole point of a teaser is to entice the viewer into wanting to know more right? Because from what I've seen so far, it looks incredibly bland.
I never said FPS anywhere did I? I said military and [sub]*has another look*[/sub] from what I see there is Tanks blowing up other Tanks in a small grey city environment, looks just like BF3 to me.Farther than stars said:
Lol thats a good point, Mercs were 3rd person. Not that it makes any difference.ProtoChimp said:
I never said that you said FPS, did I? I said that would have been one of the things that would have made me cringe at the prospect of the game a little bit more.CardinalPiggles said:
Terrific use of an example to back up your argument though. Because supposing that you didn't use the FPS format to describe what you dislike about that footage, then why list BF3, which is very much an FPS, and not piss over something like C&C Generals instead to strengthen your argument about "military" games?