Star Wars: TOR's On-Rails Space Combat Still Looks Awesome

AndyFromMonday

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The space gameplay looks amazing. I don't care if it's on rails or not, it looks amazing. Suddenly I have a needing desire to buy this game.
 

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ZeroMachine said:
Wait, THIS is what you meant by on-rails? I thought you meant...
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... come to think of it, I don't even know what I thought you meant o_O either way I'm completely sold now. I loved Star Fox.
A rail shooter is more of a "Get them before they get you"-kind of game. Think like Area 51 and similar Light gun shooters. That's what the original rebel assault was and why people were freaked out about it.

I figured the game would play more like the flying sections of Jade Empire and other than the slight change in perspective it's not far off.
 

Leftnt Sharpe

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Did anyone here play the XBLA game 'Aces of the Galaxy'? This kind of reminds me of that, only easier.............
 

rembrandtqeinstein

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starfox is such a win, one of the most fun snes/n64 games ever

this increases the chances of me buying this game but I'm still not playing till the first year is up
 

Antari

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Actually it does mean it won't be fun. After playing through that once, I'd be ready to throw the game out the window. Honestly I'd rather play the old 1983 Star Wars arcade game, and that was in wireframe!

Come on bioware, I know the Kotors didn't have strong space elements but your dealing with an MMO now. Quit cheaping out on us!

Far too many of you are impressed with shiny things like graphics. You've obviously never known good gameplay. A rail shooter, regardless of graphics is the kind of thing I'd expect from a BROWSER game in this day and age.
 

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salinv said:
Kagim said:
Why is it that galaxies could pull off some pretty sweet free world flying but a game how many years later can't...

If i want a fly forward shooter I would hop in the gummi ship for Kingdom Hearts 2. Which if the trailer is anywhere near the initial product, Kingdom Hearts seems to have done it better. Which actually sounds really sad saying it out loud then it did inside my head.
You do realize the flying in TOR isn't an integral part of the game (from what I understand at least). I'm not saying they hashed it in there just for the hell of it; I mean, this is Bioware we are talking about, they tend to make quality stuff and with good reasoning and intentions. I would love to play an EVE detailed Star Wars space combat mmo, but the KotOR universe and TOR isn't built around space combat, nor should it necessarily be. I'm just glad they have something like that in there, and the fact that it resembles a game that has a spot close to many gamers' hearts.
Well, as i said, galaxies had free world flying. It wasn't integral but you could fly around hunting down rebels, mining resources from meteors and manually fly to other planets.

Not to mention being able to have massive starships people could walk around as if on a planet.

However the whole space part of the game was optional. Not integral at all. Nor was the game based around it, seeing how it was an expansion.

That was years ago though, and i find it odd that today despite having all the gaming power in the world to make it not only better, but part of the standard game they instead go with a generic fly forward shooter.

I could almost ignore that, but the trailer is so lack luster, even for a rail shooter. It feels as if they DID just hack it together when the suddenly remembered "Shit we need space combat!"

On an aside, while not directed at you in specific, it makes me laugh that while people throw a fit about WoW not being innovative ToR throws out something that's quite literally the opposite of creative and people scream in applause....
 

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Rayjay06 said:
I think a good way to gauge how much I like this is to see how much WoW players hate it lol.
Well I'm a WoW player, about mid-range on the casual to super-hardcore scale, and with Cataclysm coming out later this year, along with DC Universe online (I'm a comic book geek too), and the Lord of the Rings MMO going free to play (yes, big Lord of the Rings fan too), I've been looking for reasons to not like this game because I can't honestly see how I'm going to have time to sleep, let alone have a life, by the time TOR rolls out next year.

And all I can think right now is damnit damnit damnit because this game is looking more and more exactly like a game I would sell my soul (if it wasn't already property of Blizzard) to play. I am a huge fan of both Star Wars and Lylat Wars and I would buy that game just to play Star Wars skinned HD Lylat Wars sequences, let alone the rest of the fantastic looking game.
 

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Tom Goldman said:
ASnogarD said:
Tom, do these guys pay your wage or what ?

The MMO is already pretty huge with the none instance railed crap, without adding the cheap theatrics...to be honest I was intrested in the MMO until they tossed in the cheap WoW like bomb run activities, yes WoW like as it has many of those rail guided flight sequences in since TBC.

Ok, it may look good but whats the cost ? A loading screen to your ship and then a tour guide flight from one site to another. I prefer less loading screens and more immersion... ok so I wont have R2D2 as a personal ***** but at least I wont be at the mercey of my HDD loading times.
Unfortunately, BioWare does not pay my wage, but I'm open to a wage garnishing if the company wants (email me). I genuinely happen to think it looks like a fun diversion... and way better than any WoW bombing run I've ever done. Opinions may differ, but that doesn't mean one that approves of something others do not is being paid off.
Out of interest, do you consider it superior to the free-flight dogfighting seen in Jump to Lightspeed? Or, would you have chosen to have this system, given the option?
 

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Do people not see the common sense behind this? Or do they not know you get a large cruiser in the game? Besides small starfighters, how many of these large ships are the pilot control the guns in the movies and stuff? None. You either going to be the pilot, in which case you have no control over the weapons, or the more fun option of the gunner, but you won't be piloting the ship.

I can foresee in later patches or expansions when they have time, they can go multiplayer space combat to open it up, but for right now rails makes the most sense.
 

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sosolidshoe said:
Tom Goldman said:
ASnogarD said:
Tom, do these guys pay your wage or what ?

The MMO is already pretty huge with the none instance railed crap, without adding the cheap theatrics...to be honest I was intrested in the MMO until they tossed in the cheap WoW like bomb run activities, yes WoW like as it has many of those rail guided flight sequences in since TBC.

Ok, it may look good but whats the cost ? A loading screen to your ship and then a tour guide flight from one site to another. I prefer less loading screens and more immersion... ok so I wont have R2D2 as a personal ***** but at least I wont be at the mercey of my HDD loading times.
Unfortunately, BioWare does not pay my wage, but I'm open to a wage garnishing if the company wants (email me). I genuinely happen to think it looks like a fun diversion... and way better than any WoW bombing run I've ever done. Opinions may differ, but that doesn't mean one that approves of something others do not is being paid off.
Out of interest, do you consider it superior to the free-flight dogfighting seen in Jump to Lightspeed? Or, would you have chosen to have this system, given the option?
I never tried SWG's system, though I am a huge fan of Tie Fighter, X-Wing, and the like. I think both systems have their places. I know from playing the old LucasArts flight sims a lot of time was spent just revolving around and around trying to get a bead on an opponent, so BioWare's system takes that kind of annoyance out of the equation.
 

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Tom Goldman said:
sosolidshoe said:
Tom Goldman said:
ASnogarD said:
Tom, do these guys pay your wage or what ?

The MMO is already pretty huge with the none instance railed crap, without adding the cheap theatrics...to be honest I was intrested in the MMO until they tossed in the cheap WoW like bomb run activities, yes WoW like as it has many of those rail guided flight sequences in since TBC.

Ok, it may look good but whats the cost ? A loading screen to your ship and then a tour guide flight from one site to another. I prefer less loading screens and more immersion... ok so I wont have R2D2 as a personal ***** but at least I wont be at the mercey of my HDD loading times.
Unfortunately, BioWare does not pay my wage, but I'm open to a wage garnishing if the company wants (email me). I genuinely happen to think it looks like a fun diversion... and way better than any WoW bombing run I've ever done. Opinions may differ, but that doesn't mean one that approves of something others do not is being paid off.
Out of interest, do you consider it superior to the free-flight dogfighting seen in Jump to Lightspeed? Or, would you have chosen to have this system, given the option?
I never tried SWG's system, though I am a huge fan of Tie Fighter, X-Wing, and the like. I think both systems have their places. I know from playing the old LucasArts flight sims a lot of time was spent just revolving around and around trying to get a bead on an opponent, so BioWare's system takes that kind of annoyance out of the equation.
That was due more to poor AI that would follow you into infinite loops. Had nothing to do with the fact that its free flight. Either way, I won't pay money for a dressed up rail shooter. I don't care how superior the rest of the game is. I'm here for the Star Wars Experience, not Bioware's Lame Star Wars Ride. Its a question of how much money do they want to make. If they want a kids game that will be popular for a couple of months then they can continue as is. If they want a long term hit, they had better put more effort into it than this. And as you say .. yes all it is, is a fun diversion. Let me know how fun it is after your 8th hour of it.
 

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Hey even if it is a on-rails space shooter, it looks good, plus it reminds me of starfox, when it was good.
Still, its way to early to say anything yet.