Superman Quits America, Fox News Readers Take the News Badly

[Gindil]

Especially since his character is a Canadian creation.

I don't understand how according to alot of Americans it seems that they are the only country that stands for peace and freedom. The freedom part I find ironic with the amount of privacy infringing bills that the previous US government tried to pass.

Doing my best not to make this a political thread, but look at what the US is pressuring the world into now with ACTA, the Patriot Act, the war on Terror, the war on Drugs, etc.

What's the ACTA?

Anti Counterfeiting Trade Agreement [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Counterfeiting_Trade_Agreement]

Obama Admin supports it because of the secrecy, ICE supports it because they are the special police of the recording and movie industry, it's packed around a TON of secrecy, and any group with actual common sense can tell you it's bad for anyone involved with the negotiations.

 

[Brad Shepard]

Got to love over reacting, right wing asshats

 

[Atmos Duality]

It's the height of arrogance to assume that your culture and ways are automatically superior to others.

That's what I thought of when I saw those comic panels anyway.
This isn't the first time comic book writers have included "real life" political sentiment/backlash, and it certainly won't be the last.

 

[srpilha]

interesting points made by theApoc.

But mainly I'm wondering this: is it even possible for Superman (and so many -all?- other superheroes) to be anything else than US-centric characters? The very idea of superheroes as we know them today was consolidated in the US; every global threat in comics, together with the way to fight it (including the way to lose against it, occasionally) depends entirely on a US-centered view of the world, often enough one inherited from cold war times, or even from post-GreatDepression.

Mind you, that's not bad in itself. It's just something to keep in mind when we put things in perspective. Renouncing one's citizenship, especially for that reason, is in itself a very American way of being subversive - good old iconoclasty.

 

[SomeBritishDude]

Sssshhhhh! Don't tell them!!

[img/]http://s1.hubimg.com/u/89756_f260.jpg[/img]

Seriously, let's keep this one quiet.

Also even has someone who loves the character I'd say that this should have happened long ago. A Superhero as powerful as Superman shouldn't be restricted to one country, especially since he can fly from one side of the globe to the over in the blink of an eye.

I would say that I prefer is when superman is dealing with Robots from space and super freaks from the future than real world wars and people. By bringing him into the real world it makes the character more questionable; where the fuck was he when peoples homes were being destroyed by earth quakes and murdered in their beds? Probably fighting a big green dude from the planet zog.

 

[xitel]

Actually burgers were invented in Germany. They're named after Hamburg. But yes I get your point.

Completely unrelated, but they're not. They were named after the style of meat, hamburg steak, which was invented in Hamburg. The actual hamburger itself (at least, the modern form of it) was invented in the US. The restaurant is still actually in business. Yes, the term has existed before, but nowhere near the same way.

OT: Yeah, I have to say, it makes sense. I mean, hell, the JLA live on a satellite in Earth orbit, they can fly around the world in under a day, there's no reason to be American only. I for one applaud their decision. Hell, right-wingers complain constantly about illegal aliens, and I'm pretty sure crashing into the planet on a meteorite isn't exactly a legal way of entering the country.

It's there he reveals his intention to give up his US citizenship

Also, I think you mean "intention" >.>

 

[Grey_Focks]

Huh. Shame that Superman comics have sucked for years now. Seriously, how the hell can I care about a character that literally, if he dies, he just gets back up?

Always funny to read comment sections on things like that, though. Oh, you Fox readers....such an enthusiastic bunch.

 

[Lord_Ascendant]

I'm not surprised anymore, really, by anything anyone who even gives a cursory glance at Fox News says. It's like looking at it rubs off badly on your soul. In the grand scheme of the universe, Superman is really not important. And the "Waaah, you aren't being patriotic enough!" is making me afraid of Nationalism...and Nationalism, if taken out of hand, can be a belligerent thing for the world.

When the screwball right-wing gets uppity about, of all things, a fictional character pushing "liberal agendas" it usually is time to re-evaluate yourself as a human being. We're all intelligent here, is this really important? Why not whine and cry that Obama is a Muslim and born in Kenya some more, maybe someone will still care. It is party combat thats on the brains of Americans like this, it isn't really a discourse, it's a shouting match where both sides have forgotten why they are fighting and are keeping it going for fear of being defeated and loosing face.

It is Idealism vs Pragmatism, Subjectivism vs Objectivism, Regulatory Capitalism vs Laissez-faire Capitalism, and many other things. If the "American way" isn't open for public debate and scrutiny, what kind of nation are we?

 

[RvLeshrac]

I love how Superman, a character who wasn't even born on this planet, not being American is considered 'anti-American'. I wonder if people who think that are the same people who think Obama isn't American enough to be president.

DC co-publishers Jim Lee and Paul DiDio

It's Dan Didio, not Paul Didio.

Those are the same idiots who said Julian Assange was "un-american," mind. So yes.

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I love how Superman, a character who wasn't even born on this planet, not being American is considered 'anti-American'. I wonder if people who think that are the same people who think Obama isn't American enough to be president.

I am often amazed at the ridiculous and narrow minded view of the people who generally post on this site. The character was created as a symbol of honor, justice and freedom. It was created in America for an American audience.

The crux of the article and the attached comments is the absurd liberal ideology being pushed on us by the mainstream media outlets and how bad it actually is for the people of this country. America and Americans have done a lot of good in the past 230 years, and like pretty much EVERY other country on the planet we have also done are share of things that aren't so great. But the notion that we somehow need to be more sensitive to the "feelings" of the rest of the world is nonsense.

I get why DC is doing this, they have a big movie coming out next year and they are positioning Superman as more of a fantastical character than as an American icon. From a business standpoint, makes perfect sense. But let's not pretend that there is some altruistic reason for a change like this. Seriously, how often did it really come up, the fact that Superman was an American? Was his national affiliation really that important to the story? Other than destroying lots of property on American soil, was there ever any question that Superman was just kind of living here? That his goal was to protect the PLANET and not just Americans?

So in the end, other than to drum up some publicity, soften his image for international markets, and in general change something completely irrelevant to the character, who really cares.

And I am sorry, but most of the people who post on the boards don't know enough about anything going on in the media to comment on FOX, CNN or any news outlet and be taken even a little bit seriously.

We've actually done very little good, comparatively speaking, over the last two centuries.

We helped stop Hitler, sometimes worked to stop Soviet expansion, and developed most of the technologies used in the miniaturisation of computing, as well as DARPANet. We also introduced South America to the Death Squad, armed and trained the Taliban and al Qaeda, helped Saddam Hussein into power and sold him chemical and biological weapons which we knew would be used against his own people, armed Iran, tortured both citizens and foreign nationals at Guantanamo, *kidnapped* foreign nationals to imprison them in Guantanamo and then threatened their leaders... the list goes on and on, and those are just what we've done in the last 50 years. The further you go back, the progressively worse our abuses get.

 

[dkyros]

The liberal left is using comics to push their agenda. And Fox news or the radically right are using a couple TV channels to push theirs. In fact, they have so much sway that they are able to influence enough conservatives that this is an issue.

 

[Flauros]

I love how Superman, a character who wasn't even born on this planet, not being American is considered 'anti-American'. I wonder if people who think that are the same people who think Obama isn't American enough to be president.

I am often amazed at the ridiculous and narrow minded view of the people who generally post on this site. The character was created as a symbol of honor, justice and freedom. It was created in America for an American audience.

The crux of the article and the attached comments is the absurd liberal ideology being pushed on us by the mainstream media outlets and how bad it actually is for the people of this country. America and Americans have done a lot of good in the past 230 years, and like pretty much EVERY other country on the planet we have also done are share of things that aren't so great. But the notion that we somehow need to be more sensitive to the "feelings" of the rest of the world is nonsense.

I get why DC is doing this, they have a big movie coming out next year and they are positioning Superman as more of a fantastical character than as an American icon. From a business standpoint, makes perfect sense. But let's not pretend that there is some altruistic reason for a change like this. Seriously, how often did it really come up, the fact that Superman was an American? Was his national affiliation really that important to the story? Other than destroying lots of property on American soil, was there ever any question that Superman was just kind of living here? That his goal was to protect the PLANET and not just Americans?

So in the end, other than to drum up some publicity, soften his image for international markets, and in general change something completely irrelevant to the character, who really cares.

And I am sorry, but most of the people who post on the boards don't know enough about anything going on in the media to comment on FOX, CNN or any news outlet and be taken even a little bit seriously.

Last superman comic ive read, superman lived in Brazil, lol

 

[Celtic_Kerr]

So Superman doesn't have a US citizenship anymore?

So what?

Apparently, some people don't believe that a man who was shipped here in a space craft and whos motive is to save the world should do anything but save America...

 

[Zhukov]

"Despite being riddled with a blatant lack of patriotism...."

Anyone who can say those words with a straight face deserves to be spat on.

...

Unless they happen to be really big. In which case you should spit at them from a rooftop or moving car.

 

[Cipher1]

And this changes things how?

 

[Chiasm]

So with Superman gone; Can Aquaman take up the, "American way" banner?

 

[zelda2fanboy]

So you guys really aren't going to fix the line about "David Goya?" Maybe our writer is from Baaston. Seriously, I'm a pretty low level nerd (I don't even read comics) and I caught that mistake.

 

[Bobbity]

Oh please. Now these idiots realize the comic book industry is liberal? That's almost like coming to the epiphany that Stephen Colbert, is in fact, not on Bill O'Reilly's side.

Shhhhhhh. Most of them still haven't figured it out yet...

OT: I'm genuinely surprised that Fox took this so well, but not exactly surprised that the readers didn't follow suit. The Fox News comment section isn't the most reasonable place on the internet, after all.
Oh, and if we really have to start analysing this, Superman's decision was the only rational thing to do in such a situation. Not to mention the fact that he's an alien, or even that he's not real.