Swatter Arrested, Could Face Five Years in Prison

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Valkrex said:
Okay good job on getting this guy arrested but 5 years? That's it? THAT'S IT?!?!?

For multiple instances of a crime that puts its victims in extreme danger, multiple cases of identity theft, repeated hacking and fraud, and that only gets you FIVE YEARS?!?!?

What the hell?
As for the swatting, that probably just a false police reporting charge, which are (sadly enough) generally only slightly worse than traffic tickets. Hell, the victims of the swatting aren't even legally victims in that case, the police department is.

I am surprised there isn't more penalty attached to the identity theft, hacking, and fraud though -- those are usually considered "real" crimes.
 

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Long-term, the most important thing (assuming this guy is found guilty and convicted) is that more prosecutions of swatting follow and result in reasonable sentencing (again, assuming they are found guilty, of course). That should effectively send the message that if you swat someone, there will be consequences.

StewShearer said:
Your source says that Wilson´s pseudonym was "Famed God," not "Framed God." Is there a reason for the the different spelling?
 

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Five years in prison. You knew enough about computers to hack into someone's console. You could have gotten a good job and made something of yourself and now, at the age of nineteen, you face spending five years in an American prison.

I dunno. I suppose a lot of people are going to be shouting "Ha, good, fuck this guy!", but that's just not something I can take any joy out of. He might have ruined other people's lives and now he might have ruined his own, and he's not even twenty years old.
Even if he gets all five years he'll still be no older than 25 when he gets out (by the time the trial is over, he may have another birthday before his sentence is passed). That's still plenty of time to reinvent himself. I'm not sure if I'd say more than five years would be appropriate, but not only did he waste police resources, someone easily could have been killed. If stuff like this continues, I wouldn't be surprised if there are calls to treat SWATing like attempted murder.

The only thing that concerns me is our penal system in general, which isn't designed to help any prisoner of any sentence length to better themself and prepare to re-enter the world. In that sense I don't just sorry for this guy, but every person within our system.
 

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Good! You ought not use law enforcement to endanger the lives of innocents for a joke or whatever bs reason he had for doing it. I hope he gets sentenced (assuming he is guilty, if he isn't, he shouldn't be sentenced obviously).
 

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Barbas said:
Five years in prison. You knew enough about computers to hack into someone's console. You could have gotten a good job and made something of yourself and now, at the age of nineteen, you face spending five years in an American prison.

I dunno. I suppose a lot of people are going to be shouting "Ha, good, fuck this guy!", but that's just not something I can take any joy out of. He might have ruined other people's lives and now he might have ruined his own, and he's not even twenty years old.
Considering some swatters are angling to get people killed and actively celebrated the fact they got a family dog shot to death...

No, I'm sorry, I don't have sympathy for these guys. If hey have mental illness's I'd rather see them get treatment than jail, but if you getting armed police who may be using military tactics/have what they believe is legitimate reason to use deadly force to protect their own or others lives for a prank or other messed up reasons, I have no sympathy for you.
 

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His trolling could have got someone killed.

I hope all his sentences are to be served consecutively.
 

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On one hand, there is one less shitter outside.
On the other hand, will jail do anything to him (or swatting in general, for that matter)? He'll spend five years consuming taxes and we don't even know if when he gets out he'll have changed at all.
 

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I've always found it strange how people are 'sad' for a 19-year old to go to prison, but not a, say, 50-year old.
To me, an adult should know the difference between right or wrong, whether 19 or 99. And if they're proven to be guilty they should all be treated equally like criminals, not like 'young men' or 'down on their luck drifters' or whatever. If you kill someone, you're a killer. You rob a store you're a robber.
Then again, I seem to be a minority thinking like that, so meh.
 

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We need to have a serious talk, guys...this is important and you NEED to know this. The future literally depends on it.

Now, listen up:











If you can't properly grow a beard without it coming out patchy and weird, then wait a few years and try again. This kid is a disgrace to beards, and I'm sure that's partially what led to his new legal trouble.

Beard responsibly.
 

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soren7550 said:
... Take the case of Brandon "Framed God" Wilson, a 19-year old man who was arrested last Thursday ...
Given the things he's done, shouldn't that read man baby, or man child?
Haha! I was thinking the same thing! Just a big ole' baby man.

 

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K-lusive said:
If you kill someone, you're a killer.
This would also imply that soldiers are behaving deviant and violent outside of doing their duty. Killing in self defense, as well, could be considered accidental. It's possible to inadvertently kill somebody without a homicidal agenda...and looking at it in a black-and-white ideology is oversimplifying it.
 

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BarrelsOfDouche said:
K-lusive said:
If you kill someone, you're a killer.
This would also imply that soldiers are behaving deviant and violent outside of doing their duty. Killing in self defense, as well, could be considered accidental. It's possible to inadvertently kill somebody without a homicidal agenda...and looking at it in a black-and-white ideology is oversimplifying it.
Killing someone makes you a killer. It doesn't necessarily make you a murderer, as murder is a crime, but killing someone does make you a killer.
 

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Good. Lock him up. Make an example of him. It pisses me off that so many snot nosed brats have already gotten away with this kind of nonsense already.
 

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Kopikatsu said:
BarrelsOfDouche said:
K-lusive said:
If you kill someone, you're a killer.
This would also imply that soldiers are behaving deviant and violent outside of doing their duty. Killing in self defense, as well, could be considered accidental. It's possible to inadvertently kill somebody without a homicidal agenda...and looking at it in a black-and-white ideology is oversimplifying it.
Killing someone makes you a killer. It doesn't necessarily make you a murderer, as murder is a crime, but killing someone does make you a killer.
Question then: if someone died through SWATing would the guy that set it up be a killer or murderer?
 

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Swatting can get someone killed. I'm glad that the cops got him, but I'd wish the courts would allow the victim of the swatting at least 45 seconds of beating the crap out of this guy on top of his sentence. Seriously, violence rarely SOLVES problems but the reason why people do this is the lack of repercussions. I just so happen to think a brief, non lethal ass beating by the people he has wronged can go a long way.
 

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MerlinCross said:
Kopikatsu said:
BarrelsOfDouche said:
K-lusive said:
If you kill someone, you're a killer.
This would also imply that soldiers are behaving deviant and violent outside of doing their duty. Killing in self defense, as well, could be considered accidental. It's possible to inadvertently kill somebody without a homicidal agenda...and looking at it in a black-and-white ideology is oversimplifying it.
Killing someone makes you a killer. It doesn't necessarily make you a murderer, as murder is a crime, but killing someone does make you a killer.
Question then: if someone died through SWATing would the guy that set it up be a killer or murderer?
He would be guilty of murder by proxy, which depending on the district, could make him a conspirator, an accessory, or straight up guilty of murder.

So! Depends on the district as far as legal terms go. Ultimately I would say he's a murderer but not a killer.
 

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Barbas said:
J Tyran said:
I know, and I agree that he should face punishment for what he did. He was selfish and stupid and if he didn't end up causing someone's death then he's been damn lucky. Better if he hadn't done the crime, obviously, but the idea of a 19 year old going to prison is still a sad one to me. I suppose the issue to me isn't the punishment itself but the prison system.
The reason he has to get hit so hard is because the crime is so difficult to find and prosecute - they have to come down hard on him to scare those they have little hope of catching straight. This isn't about stopping him from committing crimes - it's about dissuading others from following him.
 
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Carrots_macduff said:
it depresses me when people are happy to see a kid go to jail, no matter what they did.

not saying he doesnt deserve it, but if you must send a 19 year old to prison, it should be done reluctantly, not with a smile on your face. plus, if you think its going to make him a better person, youre probably wrong.
Hopefully it's a minimum security prison, poor kid is probably going to be molested.
Poor kid? Poor KID?

You jest, surely you jest! This sociopath not only attempted pre-meditated murder via police of several individuals for his own personal enjoyment, he has also committed identity theft of at least two persons, and in at least one case contacted them afterwords, and threatened to use this information he had acquired to bankrupt his victim's father as well as the victim themselves just because. These are not the actions of a 14 year old making empty threats over Xbox LIVE to another 14 year old and being punished severely and unnecessarily for it, these are the actions of a man with so few personal morals that he's all too willing to destroy the lives of people he has in all likelihood never met simply because he can.

I pray that you both simply didn't read through the entire article as opposed to actually believing that this grown-ass adult man that has flat-out terrorized several people in the past for his own personal enjoyment is a "kid," and by definition should receive a lax sentence for his multiple, sociopathic crimes that frankly he should be serving at the very least a life sentence for.
I'm not saying he should receive a light sentence. I just feel sorry for anyone that young going to prison.
In this case, I got one word for you: DON'T.

Look, I wish that as an American, our prison system was a LOT better (I know it's a damn mess), but here in the US you are legally an adult at 18, and this nutball could have gotten someone KILLED. That is a very serious offence and IMHO he should be charged with attempted murder. I don't see any difference between what this maniac did with a computer and what someone could do with a weapon they own. The only difference is that this sicko used a PC and tried to get the SWAT Team to do a deed.

And what happens when this stunt gets someone killed (and it's only a matter of time) do you think US lawmakers will reign in the police and SWAT teams or give them more money to make sure that it won't happen again or is it more likely that we will be fighting Censor War 2.0 and this time we will have a lot harder time to make our case when we have morons like this jackass pulling stunts that endanger the public?

Yeah it sucks to be in his shoes but as a gamer I want to see this jackass tossed into prison and they can throw away the key for all I care. It's shit like this makes me ashamed to be a gamer.