What about this then...dogstile said:Sweden doesn't have a law against piracy. Argue all you want, you can't argue that point.Danik93 said:first off, piracy is and has been illegal since like the 90's and Sweden is in a copyright agreement with the majority of the western world so if I try to make an obvious TF2 ripoff valve can sue me, or just take the servers down or something in that fashion.dogstile said:Last I checked, piracy was legal in Sweden. Copyright means nothing in other country's, which is why Valve can't do anything about the TF2 ripoff being developed in china.Danik93 said:Well.... Piracy is Illegal and I assume the files they where copying were copyright protected. and a religion that is about something illegal should not be allowed. The same reason why practicing old norse rituals are illegal (atleast the ones with human sacrifice)
(also, escapist, please dear god get rid of these solvemedia things, the old way was fine)
I'm talking about downloading, not "circumventing digital locks". Which, according to that, is still pretty much legal.Danik93 said:What about this then...dogstile said:Sweden doesn't have a law against piracy. Argue all you want, you can't argue that point.Danik93 said:first off, piracy is and has been illegal since like the 90's and Sweden is in a copyright agreement with the majority of the western world so if I try to make an obvious TF2 ripoff valve can sue me, or just take the servers down or something in that fashion.dogstile said:Last I checked, piracy was legal in Sweden. Copyright means nothing in other country's, which is why Valve can't do anything about the TF2 ripoff being developed in china.Danik93 said:Well.... Piracy is Illegal and I assume the files they where copying were copyright protected. and a religion that is about something illegal should not be allowed. The same reason why practicing old norse rituals are illegal (atleast the ones with human sacrifice)
(also, escapist, please dear god get rid of these solvemedia things, the old way was fine)
52 d § Det är förbjudet att utan samtycke från upphovsmannen eller dennes rättsinnehavare kringgå en digital eller analog spärr som hindrar eller begränsar framställning av exemplar av ett upphovsrättsligt skyddat verk, kringgå en teknisk skyddsprocess, exempelvis en kryptering, som hindrar eller begränsar tillgängliggörande för allmänheten av ett upphovsrättsligt skyddat verk eller kringgå en annan teknisk åtgärd som hindrar eller begränsar sådant tillgängliggörande. Första stycket gäller inte när någon som lovligen har tillgång till ett exemplar av ett upphovsrättsligt skyddat verk, kringgår en teknisk åtgärd för att kunna se eller lyssna på verket.
Lag (2005:359).
52 e § Det är förbjudet att tillverka, importera, överföra, sprida genom att exempelvis sälja eller hyra ut, eller i förvärvssyfte inneha anordningar, produkter eller komponenter eller att tillhandahålla tjänster som
marknadsförs eller utannonseras i syfte att kringgå en teknisk åtgärd,
utöver att kringgå en teknisk åtgärd endast har ett begränsat intresse från förvärvssynpunkt eller ett begränsat förvärvsmässigt användningsområde, eller
huvudsakligen är utformade, konstruerade, anpassade eller framtagna i syfte att möjliggöra eller underlätta kringgående av en teknisk åtgärd.
Lag (2005:359).
Translation:
52 d It is prohibited without consent of the author or his successor in title to circumvent a digital or analog lock that prevent or restrict reproduction of a copyrighted work, to circumvent a technological protection process, such as encryption, which prevents or restricts the public communication of a copyright work or circumvent any other technological measure that prevents or restricts such making available. The first paragraph does not apply when a person lawfully has access to a copy of a work protected by copyright, circumvents a technological measure in order to see or listen to the work.
Act (2005:359).
52 e It is prohibited to manufacture, import, transfer, distribute through, for example, sell or rent, or profit in possession of devices, products or components or to provide services
announced or advertised in order to circumvent a technological measure;
other than to circumvent a technological measure has only a limited interest from a commercial point of view or a limited scope of commercial use, or
primarily designed, produced, adapted or performed for the purpose of enabling or facilitating the circumvention of a technological measure.
this is only to parts of the law here is a link that shows the whole law:http://www.notisum.se/rnp/sls/lag/19600729.HTM#K2P12S1 (it is in Swedish but Google translate is your friend) so piracy is basically illegal, there have been talk about making it legal but nothing have happend
Argue all you want, you can't argue that point.
Just because scientology is evil and wrong doesn't justify piracy.Kyouki1980 said:If the so called "Church" of Scientology can do it so can they. And Scientology has a very shady past indeed. Kidnapping and murder being two of the worst accusations.HontooNoNeko said:That's kinda bullshit they should be able to found a religion under any traditions they want. They most certainly shouldn't be able to break the law because of their religion but they most certainly hold the right to have traditions that may have done so, as long as no actual law is being broken.
And yet they still operate without sanction. But then this is the US where money talks. So what do you expect really.
This file sharing religion seems far FAR less dangerous than the brain washing psychopaths of scientology. Let them have their religion and filesharing I say. Assuming it isn't a troll ofcourse ^_^ heh.
Sorry, that's Singapore actually, silly me.DaJoW said:Not exactly, it's illegal to upload copyrighted things but not download. And copyright means something here, we just don't have your vicious lobbies.dogstile said:Last I checked, piracy was legal in Sweden. Copyright means nothing in other country's, which is why Valve can't do anything about the TF2 ripoff being developed in china.
What? Just... what?Nabirius said:I get that this is Sweden where it is illegal to chew gum in public but seriously.
OT: I believe the government has the right not to formally recognize any religion. It's not stopping them from practicing, it's just that they don't get the privileges (which should be removed) of formally recognized ones.
You do realize that you're quoting the Jewish bible?Strazdas said:Laws of Rape (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)Swedmarine said:Would you please refer me to what place in the Bible, or other holy scripture, it says that's part of the religion? I fear that what you've found is something made up by the individual and not the religion itself.
What kind of lunatic would make a rape victim marry her attacker? Answer: God.If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.
Not unlike every other religion...Formica Archonis said:What a joke. Stupid made-up religion that means nothing except that the practitioners want to get away with something under the guise of 'faith'.
Umh the warmest place in sweden today was 39*C so sorry dude no snow today.Aeshi said:Between the "Piracy is Legal" Law, The Pirate Bay, the "SWE?"tards and this I'm amazed we still let this miserable place exist.
Seems like you could greatly improve the Internet/World just by nuking Sweden till the snow glows green.
And that folks is the definition of ignorancy.NameIsRobertPaulson said:Religions give freedoms that laws don't. The freedom to execute a woman for being raped, stone a dog for being a reincarnated lawyer, or oppress entire generations of people for no better reason than "My imaginary friend said so".MortisLegio said:this just in boats go in the water
OT: this is just stupid... its a joke that seems to have gone to the edge of stupidville and never stopped
want to share files fine but there are consequences and trying to get around them by making a religion is just idiotic and ridiculous